Cubs Sign Edmonds

rerish nooooooooo

Which happens first...Edmonds gets hurt or hits a HR? I'll take the injury action...

Knowing Edmonds, there's no telling what is going to happen. He'll probably either get his old form back and hit 20+ bombs for the Cubs or only play maybe a handful of games then be lost due to calf muscle injuries, back injuries, shoulder injuries, etc. just like he did in STL after awhile. So begins the Jimmy-E experiment in Chicago.

Edmunds is washed up. He was a very good player for the last ten years but time and injuries have caught up with him. Cub fans who imagine they are getting Edmunds in his prime are going to be very, very disappointed. San Diego let him go because it was evident that his skills have eroded to the point where is just a fringe player.

I never thought I would say this, but the Padres maybe willing to give up Young if the team continues to struggle. I really thought the Pads would be the team to be in the West, but they have proven me really wrong on that. If they continue to struggle and Young doesn't get a new deal, they may use him as trade bait.

The best part of a the possibility of a Chris Young trade would be all of the "CAN HE AND DERREK LEE COEXIST IN THE SAME CLUBHOUSE" talk that would undoubtedly take over the Sun-Times for a few days.

I saw that article too. To me, Zambrano keeping quiet about the Edmonds signing and not wanting to comment is a bad deal all around.

Oh, I don't think there'd be any problem with Young & Lee, I just know how much material that would give the sportswriters.

Maybe if Edmonds does suck and they release him, they can let Z give him the news.

If this messes up Zambrano I will go on a 4-yr-old like rant, jump up and down, scream, pull my hair out and not talk to anyone including my wife and 2 kids. Zambrano's awesome year is worth SOOOOOOO much more than this.

I don't think Young would be a very good fit for the Cubs. He is a fly ball pitcher and Wrigley would not work towards his strengths. If the Padres were to trade him it would not be for a bunch of fringe prospects and instead for a smaller number of top prospects. He is one of the top starters in the league pitching in his prime at a reasonable rate. I would think he would command something along the lines of what it took to get Dan Haren.

"Package Pie for a #2 starter? A #2 from what team would be worth a player who cant hack it so much in the bigs that his team had to go out and pick up an old player that was just released."

I am talking about packaging him with Gallagher and Rich Hill. I think thats a pretty good haul and would be a great move by Towers to buy low on Pie and Hill, because before this year they were untouchable. The only way I let either of them go is for a legit #2, and Young is that.

Also, Wrigley has actually been pretty neutral lately as far as park factor. Obviously he would be better in San Diego, but the guy can pitch regardless, and its not like Wrigley is a launching pad like Cincy or Philly...

"I am talking about packaging him with Gallagher and Rich Hill. I think thats a pretty good haul and would be a great move by Towers to buy low on Pie and Hill, because before this year they were untouchable. The only way I let either of them go is for a legit #2, and Young is that."

You seriously think that would be a good deal for the Cubs??? No way! Chris Young is pretty good, but he's already proven to be injury prone. I don't want to give up that much for a guy like him.

We need a legit #2 starting pitcher.....I agree with that. Two guys I would like to see Hendry look into their availability.......Jeff Francis and Matt Cain. Doubtful either can be had though.

The Padres are going to be able to do much better for C. Young than Gallagher, Pie, and possibly Hill.

Pie is this years Milledge. Tons of potential that never seems to be reached. I think Milledge for Church sets a rough approximation of what Pie would return in a trade.

I have to say...I have to respectfully disagree with your assessment of those players. Hill is a lot more than a AAA pitcher...well, besides the fact that he is literally a AAA pitcher at the moment. Ha...

But seriously, look at the season he has under his belt in 07, and then put those home games at PETCO. His numbers would be sick there...and Pie, if labled as a prospect, would STILL probably be a top 25 prospect. I will probably take some heat for that...but I think its true. Look at his projected numbers for this year...and I have no doubt that he will go down and rake in AAA, like he always has.

"Out of that proposed deal, only Gallagher is worth anything since Pie is probably at his all time low, and Hill is a 28 year old AAA pitcher who really doesnt have a whole lot of value."

I truly believe that Gallagher has probably the least value of the three. Just because he is still a "prospect" doesn't mean that Pie and Hill aren't more valuable...because they are. Especially Hill. Hill was a legit #3 last year, and is just working out some control issues, and he will probably be back not that long from now. I'm thinking anywhere from 1 to 3 AAA starts from now, as long as he can throw more than 5 innings with less than 3 walks.

I know you think I'm over valuing the Cubs guys...but I think its definitely undervaluing Pie and Hill to say they are worth less than Gallagher...especially Hill, who has a terriffic season under his belt in the bigs last year.

I do think the Padres would be willing to move Young, and that package isn't all that far off. Though if you look at San Diego's problems right now, OFFENSE is the real issue. For that reason, I'd bet they'd want Murton in any deal...maybe the deal Adunc proposed could be expanded or modified.

Looking at Tower's past deals, I'd bet you he'd propose this: Young and a prospect of some type (Will Venable?)for Hill, Pie, Murton and Ceda. It's had to put a value on Hill and Pie, given their struggles, and if Chicago still thinks highly of Hill, I bet Towers would take Marshall or Gallagher in his place. Towers almost always grabs an undervalued reliever in his deals, and probably kicks himself for giving up Ceda anyway.

As much as the Cubs hate to admit it, they have absolutely nothing to do with Murton. The Pads could have him practically as a thank you for how bad Hendry fleeced Towers taking Ceda for Todd Walker.

I agree with that Dark. I think we will know very soon...like Z's next start, if its going to affect him or not. Messing with that guy's mind when he is having his best season ever (through like 8 or nine starts or so) is a bad idea...(also averaging 17 mil a year for awhile)but... it might not do anything. We'll see soon enough.

The cubs pitching staff as a whole is like 7th best in the majors right now though, and I'm not claiming to know how just the starters are ranked of the top of my head. They are fine if Z and Dempster keep this up at all, and Lilly looks like he has his last 5 starts. Gallagher has a chance to make a good name for himself here, I'm curious to see how that goes as well.