Alou Out For Season, Could Retire

Bay, Holliday, Dunn, Ibanez, and Nady are the only names worth mentioning. Seems the only one that could had for cheap is Ibanez. Pirates want the moon for Nady, who knows what they want for Bay. Dunn might not cost much but I don't think the Reds will give him away.

I rather see them promote Fernando Martinez or Mike Carp first. They might produce and could at least take some leverage away from other teams in trying to get a full time replacement.

Pirates aren't making Bay available, and if they did, you could bet they'd ask for more than they would for Nady.

I see the Rays being in the best position to go after Nady (as in they have prospects they can trade, unlike the Mets, whose system is dried up save for F-Mart).

Alou could require or could retire? I wonder if he starts washing his hands after goin' 'pee-pee' when he retires.

I'm not a Bond fan, but if there's a team that needs him, Id say its the Mets.

Matt Holliday = No. Only chance they have is if they trade Nando, and Holliday will put up a .280/.360/.460is line in NY. Only to walk in a year. No thank you. Good luck to whoever gives that guy a big deal.

Jason Bay- Sure, as long as Fernando doesn't have to be involved, I see whats going on if I am Omar. Don't know if it is possible, but maybe.

Nady- Good player, Met fans need to just let go. All they have done for 2 years is moan and groan about losing Nady as if he were A-Rod. I will take him back, but he is a role player, an improving role player, but still is not worth what Huntington will want. I don't trust his numbers just yet, but his numbers will indicate what his price tag will be. I dont think those 2 match.

Dunn- Very interesting, if he can be had for cheap I go for it. Again, as long as Fernando isn't involved I atleast see whats what. Evaluate him, offer him a contract/ let him walk, either way is fine by me.

Ibanez- Probably the most likely solution. Will definitely not require any all world prospects. Can help out in the 6/7 spots for the rest of the year.

I completely disagree with Icedrake that those guys are the only worth inquiring on. What is wrong with Randy Winn? Brian Giles? These guys would be fantastic number 2 hitters in this lineup.

Ny fans have this state of mind that every single player has to be a star, or else there is no reason to go after them and there is no way it can possibly help the team. Brian Giles may not be what he once was, but he draws walks, put it in play and has a high OBP. Pretty nice glove also. Winn, again, while 34, would cost almost nothing, not require a big commitment, and could help out by switch hitting, adding some speed up top, and being able to play all 3 outfield positions. The idea that these guys could not help is just outrageous.

Fender, um, relax buddy. Alou has been hurt for a day. You have to discuss these things internally. Besides, I think it is more Wilpons decision then Omars. I think if this were solely an on the field move, it would be done. Another thing, the Mets have a bunch of self righteous, idiotic, bonehead fans that act as if they will burn down Shea if Barry is signed. I dont know why they do this, but I think they just want to sound cool on the radio. "I don't want the best hitter in the league, I am a fan of the game and I won't stoop that low.." they say impressively. It is absurd. Between the general idea that only Matt Holliday or Jason Bay will help in the outfield, and the idea that we are too proud of a franchise to entertain the idea of Bonds, or the constant booing, cheering, fire Willie, fire Omar, trade Reyes, trade Beltran, cut Pelfrey knee jerk idea's these people come up with, it is amazing too me that anybody came up with this "NY has the smartest fans in the world" thing. Truth is, they have some very good ones, but a huge amount of them are just knee jerk fans who want to win now, don't understand how baseball works, and just generally could not pass for "intelligent" even among their peers in the remedial classes in junior high.

As a Met fan, here would be my priorites.

1) Sign Bonds, give him 2 weeks to get ready. In the meantime, either give the AB's to Tatis, or call up the kid and let him see what he can do for 2 weeks, just to see how he handles the show.

2)Randy Winn. As I have said, he is not a star, but this does not mean he can't help. Bat him second, use his speed/ switch hitting abilities, stick him in LF and although he is not the optimum LF for any team, he knows how to play and will give you close to a .300 average and veteran leadership with some SB's.
Brian Giles also falls under number 2. Same scenario, stick him in LF/RF, bat him second, and enjoy his great batting eye and his patience while allowing Reyes to steal more bases, and seeing more fastballs should help him offensively while protected by Wright/Reyes. Not a star, but can still help out.

3)Just call up Fernando for 3 weeks or so until the deadline, and if he cannot cut it then you make a deal for a guy like Murton, or you go back to SF and see if Winn is still available.

I do not want anything to do with Matt Holliday whatsoever. Not only because of the fact that I think he will plummet once leaves Coors, but because of the asking price. They were asking for Price from Tampa, so I would expect they would want a Pelfrey and Martinez deal from the Mets. I am not comfortable giving up either of those guys in a trade for Holliday.

Fender, I am completely with you on Bonds, but I jus't dont see it. I hope I am wrong and they sign him, because he would do wonders for their offense, but Wilpon is just too conservative I think. I have been campaigning to bring Barry in since winter though, so I definitely agree with you. Our stupid fans would act all outraged and threaten to boycott the team, until they realized nobody cares once Barry hits a 3 run bomb off the scoreboard in the bottom of the 8th to win a game, then they will love him, you will hear the BARRY chant, and they will want a curtain call. NY fans are so fickle.

There is absolutely, unequivically, zero percent chance that Barry Bonds EVER wears a Mets uniform. Period. I don't know how to make it more clear then that.

First of all, it's not just always about what he does on the field. The Mets clubhouse is clearly fragile in nature, it's been pretty well established that the constant questioning about the job status of Randolph did have a negative effect on the clubhouse, they finally get out from under that and are back to having fun again and now you want to subject them to constant questioning about Barry Bonds? That's just asking for a disaster. Some clubhouses might be able to handle that, but it's pretty clear the Mets clubhouse is not one of them.

Secondly, they would get killed by the media for doing such a move, in NY of all places. This is a man who isn't just one of the biggest jerks in the game, but a liar and a cheater as well. With the way this season has gone, do you really think the Mets can afford more negative PR?

Third, the Wilpons always preach about being family-oriented with how they run their club and are among the last owners in baseball that would okay such a move.

And fourth, Bonds' knees are so shot that he cannot play the field anymore. He was in so much pain last year just from playing 7 innings in the field before being replaced.

It's just not happening, period. Get it out of your heads.

Yes, please take Casey Blake.

aap212, I would actually think Selig would want Bonds back in baseball....because surely an investigation into collusion among owners like is currently ongoing makes the game look worse then one roiding cheat.

"aap212, I would actually think Selig would want Bonds back in baseball....because surely an investigation into collusion among owners like is currently ongoing makes the game look worse then one roiding cheat."

Yes, but he would only be worried about this if there was in fact collusion going on. And if there was collusion going on, then it would be because of Selig that Bonds didn't have a job in the first place. So if he wanted Bonds back in the league for fear of a colluding scandal, then this would spell his guilt on its own, see what I mean? It's sort of a catch 22.

As for Blake, no thank you. We already have Tatis to play all 4 corner spots, spell Delgado, and bat 7th. It is not that he is bad for that role, it just seems like Tatis can do exactly the same thing. If they are going for a 6/7 hitter in LF, I like Ibanez. Big Mike, good point on Juan Rivera also, he just slipped my mind but he is a very good canidate and would be a good pickup.

If the are going to look for an outfielder that can hit 2nd(because in my opinion as good as Endy is as a 4th OF, and as valuable as he is for his dynamic defense, he is not an everyday type hitter, he will get exposed, and the 2 hole is too important.), I really like Randy Winn or Brian Giles if possible. They are both older, veteran guys who know the game, and like you said, they are not the "sexy" names. They are the type of players that dont put up the big numbers you want from a corner, but both fit the 2 hole well in my opinion.

The one thing that I would like about Bonds, Holliday, Bay, or one of these type guys is that it could move Beltran into the 2 hole where he is more comfortable and can use all of his tools to be a fantastic 2 hitter. There was a spot yesterday in a 3-3 game, bottom of the 7th with David Wright on 2nd with nobody out and a scorching Tatis on deck, followed by an also very hot Carlos Delgado, where Beltran tried to drop a bunt down with the 3rd baseman back and was booed. I love the play personally, but it is always ridiculed because people say they dont want this from a cleanup hitter. In the 2 hole he could do this sort of thing freely, bunt for hits, take pitches (which he loves to do and is also criticized for), and use his speed, while also providing some pop. One thing is for certain though, they need to do something and I am almost glad Alou went down now and not 20 days from now like Duaner Sanchez did, forcing Omar to make a quick move to "beat the buzzer" on the trade deadline.

I cannot believe Bonds isn't already in a Mets Uni.

Don't give me that clubhouse chemistry bull, NONE of you know how he'd affect the clubhouse. NONE of you. So please don't bring it up as if you have some insight into it.

When you have a potential 1000+ OPS Left Fielder waiting to fill the hole your oft-injured LF just vacated, and he'd only cost money, it just makes too much sense.

"I completely disagree with Icedrake that those guys are the only worth inquiring on. What is wrong with Randy Winn? Brian Giles? These guys would be fantastic number 2 hitters in this lineup."

They don't need a 2 hitter. They need a 5/6 hitter; someone with power.

The guy who isn't mentioned that I think is the best option in terms of what it'd cost and what you'd get is Juan Rivera.

"I sure hope he put enough money away in his requirement fund."

His estimated salary over his career exceeds $85 million. I think he will be fine. :-P

Sad to see Alou go. He was always one of my favorite players. Truly one of the best hitters of the past 30 years who got screwed out of a better career by injuries.

"The one thing that I would like about Bonds, Holliday, Bay, or one of these type guys is that it could move Beltran into the 2 hole where he is more comfortable and can use all of his tools to be a fantastic 2 hitter. There was a spot yesterday in a 3-3 game, bottom of the 7th with David Wright on 2nd with nobody out and a scorching Tatis on deck, followed by an also very hot Carlos Delgado, where Beltran tried to drop a bunt down with the 3rd baseman back and was booed. I love the play personally, but it is always ridiculed because people say they dont want this from a cleanup hitter. In the 2 hole he could do this sort of thing freely, bunt for hits, take pitches (which he loves to do and is also criticized for), and use his speed, while also providing some pop. " - nrmax88

People hate anybody on the Mets for bunting, lets be real. Especially when you make the money that Beltran does, they want the bat in your hands. Batting 2nd wouldn't change the hatred for bunting at all with Beltran.

Now, Sandwiching him in between Reyes and Wright gets Beltran a shitload of fastballs to swing at, and I like that idea. But we don't have a clean-up hitter to put in there otherwise, and we don't have the excess chips to acquire one (Short of parting with F-Mart). So that's a luxury we'll probably have to do without.

Matt Holliday = No. Only chance they have is if they trade Nando, and Holliday will put up a .280/.360/.460is line in NY. Only to walk in a year. No thank you. Good luck to whoever gives that guy a big deal.

who ever wrote that is a absolute moron get holliday get him now and lock him up guys a stud and i dont wanna here about coors hes batting 320 on the road trade fernando martinez right now to get him