Heyman's Latest: Holliday, Fuentes, Teixeira

The other 2 preospects would have to be top ones to make this deal. Tabata is having a terrible season and Kennedy is as overrated as they come.

Id think Austin Jackson woudl likely need to replace Tabata to start with.

Tabata isnt actually having as bad a season as his numbers would indicate. he was playing a lot better as of recently, but has been out for a little while with a hamstring injury.

i think the Yankees would probably part with either Hughes or Austin Jackson, but not both in a package for the above.

for me, id rather see Hughes, Tabata and two prospects rather than Austin Jackson, IPK, and two prospects.

and im not sure i make the deal at that price knowing Holliday will likely opt for FA after the 2009 season.

I doubt that Vitters, Pie and Wuertz would be enough for Colorado. Maybe something like Vitters, Pie, Ceda?

There is no way, if I am the Mets, I trade Beltan. Especially not for Holliday who will be a FA soon and will cost more than Beltran. Beltran is the best CF in the NL. You don't trade those if you are a large market team.

"Would Mets fans trade Pelfrey and F Martinez for Holliday?"

Not likely after the way Pelfrey has been looking lately.

How about Michael Bowden and Brandon Moss to the Rockies for Holliday? Just a thought. Expand the deal if you want and add Craig Hansen and another prospect for Fuentes.

"How about Michael Bowden and Brandon Moss to the Rockies for Holliday? Just a thought. Expand the deal if you want and add Craig Hansen and another prospect for Fuentes."

I don't think the Red Sox will seriously be in on any Holliday deal since Ortiz looks like he'll be back (July 25th) and Holliday is hitting 60 points lower on the road then he is at home this year (and his career home/away numbers show he's very much a Coors field product).

I don't think they would deal for him even as a replacement for Manny. I'll be shocked if the Red Sox pass on Manny's 09 option.

I don't understand why the Indians aren't interested in Fuentes. It would solve their closer problems, and give them a better answer in their already beleaguered bullpen.

I honestly dont think the Mets stand a chance of getting him. They simply cannot move Pelfrey considering the state of pitching in their organization. Outside of Niese, who else is coming? Ollie will probably leave after this year and Martinez and Hernandez are pretty much done. Pelfrey simply needs to be 100% off limits after they moved Guerra, Mulvey and Humber.

As for Martinez he should be available but if they move him they really can't include Pelfrey or Niese in the same deal, it'd kill their farm system. But the odds of them making a deal that doesnt include F-Mart and one of those pitchers is highly unlikely. Colorado simply will want/get more. I mean they can try Martinez/Heilman/2 Prospects, but the fact of the matter is that unless the deal includes Pelfrey or Beltran its gonna be difficult for the Mets.

And if the Red Sox were to go after him (I'd be surprised unless Ortiz is in worse condition than we thought) it'd cost WAY more than Bowden and Moss. At this point, while Moss is valuable, he's not really the type of high-ceiling prospect that you have to get in return for Holliday. I'm sure the Rockies would want Bowden and then one of Kalish, Anderson, Lowrie, or Masterson, assuming that Lester, Ellsbury and Buchholz are off limits. And thats why the Sox won't get him. Unless they're willing to move at least two of their very best young players (not on the ML roster), the Rockies won't have any of it.

I would like to see the Angels make a run. Offer say, Brandon Wood, Hank Conger, Nick Green and Gary Matthews Jr. for Holliday. The Rockies would have to take on Matthews' contract, but Wood and Conger have stud potential.

Honestly I expect Holliday to stay put.

yeah scribble the mets rotation next year would have some serious holes without the cheap pelfrey. they will have santana,, maine, pelfrey as it is. maybe heilman would get a shot next year? im sure they plan on spending money on pitching in the offseason one way or another but without pelfrey woudl be worse.

the angels(much like my cardinals) r one of those teams that could have a real shot with a big addition. how about adenhardt and wood is that too much? i think the rockies want a good young starter(who doeesnt).

Yeah honestly I'm not sure how Kenny Lofton hasn't put on a Mets uniform yet. I mean come on. He's free.

"Kei igawa
latrow hawkins
and 2 or 3 more prosepcts
for
Matt holiday
brian fuentes"

Oh my god. No. NOOOOOOOO. If I were a Rockies fan and I saw that trade I would smack my face with a shovel. Kei Igawa and LaTroy Hawkins ARE WORTH NOTHING. They might very well even have negative value. And you want to land the best hitter and arguably the best reliever available for that? Fuentes alone is going to cost someone a very, very good prospect. Holliday's price should be astounding.

It'd be more like Holliday and Fuentes for Hughes, Tabata, Horne and Montero

alright someone tell me their thoughts on this trade offer

Rockies get: hansen, pauley, bowden, and either chris carter or crisp

Red Sox get: Holliday and fuentes

then we let ramirez walk after the season, sign holliday for about 10 mill a year, then with te extra money leftover sign a shortstop like orlando cabrera or trade with the mets for jose reyes.

yes no? get back to me

The mets wouldn't include reyes for santana there is no way they trade him.

ok so i re thought wat i said b4 and made a revised trade

yankees get: HOlliday fuentes

rockies get: Bobby abreu
kei igawa
Jose veras

i think thts a good trade
what do u think? yes or no
let me know hwat u think

i want to add one more player in i woul dsay this

yankees get: holliday, fuentes

Rockies get: Bobby abreu
Kei igawa, jose veras, gardner or christaian, and a player to be named from the minors

now hwat do u think thts my final trade thing what do u think? good or bad

Joelcards,

I think Lester is currently just as untouchable as Buchholz, if not more so. I assume Bowden, Masterson and Bard are fair game, and despite suggestions to the contrary, I think the Red Sox would be happy to move Moss or Carter for the right if a trading partner would take decent quantity over blue-chip quality.

yankeefanbriccio13,

DunkinDonuts was making fun of your proposal and was just kidding... ihope! i think its great and all that you want the yankees to get the best players to make their team better but you've got to realize that none of your trade proposals will ever happen. you have to be more realistic. hey but things like this have happened... i mean scott kazmir was traded for victor zambrano.

hahahaha

Seems like I'm the only Rockies fan that visits this site...

Yankeefanbriccio13, that's still kind of unrealistic, but only because the Rockies are in desperate need of pitching, and especially pitching that is not named LaTroy Hawkins. We tried the LaTroy thing last year, and it worked out occasionally, and we don't really want him back. You'd probably get us to bite on Veras.

But we DEFINITELY don't need all the outfielders. We already have a glut of outfielders: Holliday, Taveras, Hawpe, Spilborghs, Sullivan, Podsednik...and that's just on our major league roster. We also have a future stud of a center fielder coming up in Dexter Fowler.

tl;dr - the Rockies don't need outfielders, we can recover from losing Holliday. We need pitching; starting and relief.

i guess i'm crazy then

dragline,
dont call me sir im only 12 years old

to every one else im only 12 so dont make fun of me for making trade proposals tht u guys think r crazy

rockies have already said they dont want alot of young players and that they want some1 established for holliday. so why not give them crisp and 3 prospects for holliday? i dont see how that is a bad trade.

and reyes DOESNT WANT TO BE A MET so why not make a deal for him. or go after micheal young. i hate lugo and if i was the g.m. of the sox i wouldnt even be worrying about replacing manny just YET. i would be putting deals together for michael young right now. he is proven. and if the sox never went and got coco and traded marte to the marlins instead of hanley (he was a higher prospect than ramirez) we wouldnt have to worry about this one bit. at this time we need a SHROTSTOP not another OUTFIELDER. deal with that after the season

Oh my word, I didn't see that. How about if the Red Sox throw in Masterson as a temporary truce so the deal can get done?

exactly like the sox trading youk to help the yankees get two allstars for a no body. doesnt help the sox or the rockies but it helps the yankees

How about this.

Giambi
Kennedy
4
Holiday
Fuentes

Sorry stache fans, but it's time for the Yanks to move on from Jason