Rangers Rumors: Laird, Greinke, Bonser, Masset

oh yeah.Let not get rid of chris David unless we wait a few years the pull a teixeira

I hope the Reds get a deal done for Saltalamacchia

Trading Chris Davis is pure speculation and would never happen, not even for Francisco Liriano. He's going to play first for a couple of years until Smoak is ready, then he'll move to third.

Once again, JD has made a few dumb trades, but he's not that dumb (he has made a few great trades, too).

These are the position players that Texas would consider trading, I imagine: Nelson Cruz, John Mayberry, Gerald Laird, Jarrod Salty, Joaquin Arias, Nate Gold, Ramon Vasquez, and Brandon Boggs. (Blalock's probably got zero value after his latest injury)

You have to think that all those highly-touted prospects down in AA are decidedly off-limits.

Sure, but would you consider trading Davis for Jonathan Sanchez?

davis isn't going anywhere, though whoever said they wouldn't trade him for liriano should really think about that a little more. i love davis, but liriano could be incredible for the rangers, so i can't throw out something like that (but its a moot point, because it will never happen).

i would love for salty and laird to bring back a good haul of pitchers (personally i would like ian kennedy and/or masterson...ideally buchholz but i dont think that will ever happen).

too bad hank got hurt, because if we could have landed sanchez that would have been great. maybe there is a deal still out there for the rangers to get him.

tmoney- thank you! That Liriano crap was absurd. You guys are in a great position to deal one or more of your catchers and bring back a stud pitching prospect or two. If I were Daniels...well, if I were Daniels, I'd have a MUCH cooler job, but if I were Daniels in this case, I'd be working the phones, trying to pick up a front-line type. The Sox could bite for, say, Max and reliever; not Buchholz, but maybe Masterson or Bowden, which would be pretty awesome.

Boof "I need a change of environment" Bonser to the Rangers, and Ramon "I want to play every day" Vasquez to the Twins.

Get JD on the phone...

rangersfan- LOL on the Blalock comment.

Please do not mistake what I'm saying about Davis. I'm sold on the kid. He's a beast and I DO think he'll hit for average AND power. My point was that even WITH all that, Daniels would have to at least consider moving him for a top young arm (depending on said arm). Liriano, for instance, would be a no-brainer (though I hate to use that as the hypothetical, since the Twins would NEVER consider moving him).

Also, I wasn't saying Daniels WOULD take back the Hamilton deal, but having MADE IT, I don't think he'd AGAIN swap an ace-caliber arm for a slugger- even one who hits for average (or in this case, NOT swap the slugger for an ace-caliber arm).

I'm surprised you think Smoak will take so long. What are you basing this on. All reports I read about him coming into the draft, remarked that he was among the most polished hitters in the class- like Carter a guy capable of hitting for average and power; like Tex, one capable of doing it from both sides of the plate- as well as a near-ready defender at first with Gold Glove potential (also reminiscent of a certain former Rangers first baseman).

I love Carter and don't think that Daniels would trade him for anything BUT an elite young arm with enormous upside, but I think he'd do it for the chance at a guy to build the rotation around. Just a difference of opinion, really, and one that- above all else- speaks volumes for Carter and for the Rangers' farm system as a whole. Amazing when you consider the shape it was in just two years ago!

Crap...said Carter a couple times, when I meant Davis. I always screw up those blah names. Anyway...replace all Carters with Davis in above post.

A couple of other considerations: Grienke has already been in the majors several years, while Davis is a rookie. That means the Rangers would be giving up 5 years of Davis for 2-3 (not sure, really) years of Grienke. On the other hand, Grienke has already established himself as a well-above average starter, with potential for further improvement, while Davis has yet to hit MLB pitching. Davis' high strikeout rate and mediocre minor league OBPs also indicate that, while he certainly has tremendous power, he's no lock to be a regular All-Star. Offensively, Adam Dunn might be more comparable than Teixeira.

Taking all this into account, I suspect the Rangers would need another mid-level pitching prospect (of which the Royals have several) to render this fair. Daniel Cortes or Carlos Rosa might be asking too much, but maybe Julio Pimentel would work?

the only way the royals would give up Greinke is if they are clearly getting the better side of the trade and even if they were offered someone Davis i still dont see the royals sending Zack packing

tmoney you don't think his numbers are inflated at all during 100 ab sample? and he has more upside? Davis is hitting a HR every 10 at bats, you think he is going to improve on this?
That is a small sample and he has been on fire all year (probably would be minor league player of the year if not for the call up) no one has seen how he will handle himself in a slump, Billy Butler's minor league are similar if not superior, you don"t know what you really have in a player until 400 ABs at least.
Davis only above avg tool defensively is his arm, and he doesn't have the glove to play third everyday according to BA making the OF only a short term option before he slows down more.
With that said the Royals would definately not give up more than Grienke for Davis they would probably be the team requiring more in the trade.

You're right the Rangers have a lot of potential in their rotation, Padilla has the best ERA with 4.56 other than Feldman the rest have an ERA above 5.5