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J.A. Happ might be a good fit - and a reasonable return - for Fuentes at this point. Kyle Kendrick might also be a possibility - while he's now an "established" MLB starter, he's not irreplaceable for the Phils with Happ around, and his peripherals show he's nothing special. Kendrick is also a sinkerballer, which might be a good fit for Coors.
Posted by: ColonelTom | July 28, 2008 at 10:10 AM
Kendrick stinks. Assuming all front offices are looking at peripherals rather than wins/ERA by now, they won't have any interest in him.
Posted by: Not Joe Morgan | July 28, 2008 at 10:23 AM
If Anaheim signs Teixeira, it's over.
Posted by: jtag | July 28, 2008 at 10:30 AM
Angels have a better chance in giving out another GMJ contract to a mediocre player.
Maybe 50M for a backup 1B?
Posted by: coolbean04 | July 28, 2008 at 10:43 AM
Homer Bailey for Salty
Posted by: redhawk61 | July 28, 2008 at 10:51 AM
-Tex is worth more than just 1 player from the Angels, unless you aquire someone like Vladamir Gurrreo. I the braves dealing Tex to the Angels aquiring Juan Rivera, and Kotchman. If they included Ohman in the trade they should get a little more like Jose Arredondo or Darren O'Day.
-If they traded with the D-Backs they woul trad Tex for conor jackson and Mark Reynolds, because reynolds can play left field also.
Posted by: tmac2 | July 28, 2008 at 10:54 AM
Homer Bailey is AWFUL. I said that before he gave up 15 hits in 4.2 the other night. He would get absolutely torched at the Ballpark.
Posted by: kinsler5 | July 28, 2008 at 11:00 AM
Why would the Dbacks trade Conor Jackson and Reynolds for a rental?
Posted by: nyyfan | July 28, 2008 at 11:35 AM
The trade will be Kotchman for Texiera at most.
This has been stated. Has Texiera ever expressed flexibility to play third base?
If he does the Angels might consider Brandon Wood plus a B level prospect.
Posted by: BK | July 28, 2008 at 11:48 AM
"Why would the Dbacks trade Conor Jackson and Reynolds for a rental?"
They wouldn't. They already said they wouldn't give up Conor Jackson. Gammons' pitch of Chad Tracy and Jarrod Parker for Tex is probably about the most realistic prosposal I can think of.
"Homer Bailey is AWFUL. I said that before he gave up 15 hits in 4.2 the other night. He would get absolutely torched at the Ballpark."
He's stock has been dropping as a prospect, but honestly I doubt the Rangers could land a much better pitcher with Salty. Bailey still has ace potential and is from Texas as well. He seems like a pretty good fit to me.
Posted by: scribbletone | July 28, 2008 at 11:49 AM
"If he does the Angels might consider Brandon Wood plus a B level prospect."
The Angels might? Or is this another case of THE ARMCHAIR GM
Posted by: Meoveryouok | July 28, 2008 at 11:53 AM
The Rangers are looking for Pitching and the Marlins want a Catcher.
The Marlins don't wanna give up their top notch SP prospects but ain't Salty the type of player you would deal a young SP for?
What about a deal like Ryan Tucker and Jesus Delgado for Salty?
Gives the Rangers a future number 2/3 starter and a young pen arm and the Marlins get their young, athletic and cheap catcher.
Posted by: JoeyJr09 | July 28, 2008 at 11:56 AM
nyyfan, exactly. It is like if AJ Burnett was going to be traded and they start asking for Matt Cain in return. Just makes not even one shred of sense. Conor Jackson is younger, cheaper, controlled for longer, and so far, he has been better then Tex this year in terms of OPS. The D'Backs need a bat in the worst way, but Conor Jackson and first base is the one area that are good. That is why everytime I hear Buster Olney talk about what a perfect match they are I just shrug and wonder why he has a job.
Posted by: nrmax88 | July 28, 2008 at 11:58 AM
Bailey for Salty seems close to legit. I mean Volquez got Hamilton and he wasn't exactly producing at his ace potential.
Posted by: Meoveryouok | July 28, 2008 at 11:58 AM
Justin Masterson for Salty makes sense to me.
Posted by: Kramerica Industries | July 28, 2008 at 11:59 AM
Reagins has made a couple public comments. Its a rare case of an "educated fan."
Additionally the Angels would not trade Arrendondo as he is going to replace K-Rod next year.
Posted by: BK | July 28, 2008 at 11:59 AM
Reagins has made a couple public comments. Its a rare case of an "educated fan."
Additionally the Angels would not trade Arrendondo as he is going to replace K-Rod next year.
Posted by: BK | July 28, 2008 at 12:00 PM
The reason people are saying that the Dbacks are the best match is that they can trade Tracy and a prospect for Tex, keeping Jackson in LF for this season, and then move him back to 1st once Tex leaves in the offseason. Obviously Jackson for Tex isn't a good deal for the Dbacks, though I would point out that Tex does have the advantage in OPS+ over Jackson.
As for the Angels, there is no way that Kotchman by himself will net you Tex. For the love of God, the guy is a 1B with an anemic .328 OBP and a 104 OPS+. I understand that he's young and cheap, but even in his career best year last year, he was an average to below-average hitter for a 1B. If the Angels toss is another prospect along with him, I think the Braves would bite. As for Wood, I don't think you can consider him as anything more than a B to B+ level prospect at this point. Sure he rakes in the PCL, but its a hitters league and the BB and K rates are still a big issue. He also doesn't exactly fit in with any of the Braves needs (Corner OF, 1B, or pitching). If he's the centerpiece it will probably take two more solid prospects or a guy like Adenhart. Maybe the Braves throw in Ohman as well to make things easier to stomach for the Angels.
Posted by: nixa37 | July 28, 2008 at 12:18 PM
"I understand that he's young and cheap, but even in his career best year last year, he was an average to below-average hitter for a 1B."
Do you realize that last year was Kotchman's first full year in the majors? Or that he had mono the entire year before? Or that his "average to below-average" numbers last year were comparable with those of Justin Morneau, and probably would have been better had he not suffered from a concussion for at least 2 weeks?
Posted by: AA | July 28, 2008 at 12:33 PM
The Angels are the biggest wuss franchise in the game.
Their offense is reg season below average. Not to mention post season terrible.
They need a big bat and they won't do anything again.
Posted by: Josh | July 28, 2008 at 12:35 PM
"Justin Masterson for Salty makes sense to me."
I would go lower and give them Brandon Moss and Danial Bard.
Moss has the skills the be a serviceable major league outfielder, just not with the Sox. With the addition of Bard it might be enough.
Vtech has lost his bat, his knees and his arm. might as well make him a coach, cause the only the guy can do is call games.
Posted by: matty | July 28, 2008 at 12:38 PM
"What about a deal like Ryan Tucker and Jesus Delgado for Salty?
Gives the Rangers a future number 2/3 starter and a young pen arm and the Marlins get their young, athletic and cheap catcher."
Tucker and Delgado both have awesome arms (98mph FB) but I will absolutely do this deal for Salty.
Posted by: FishFan86 | July 28, 2008 at 12:41 PM
"Do you realize that last year was Kotchman's first full year in the majors? Or that he had mono the entire year before? Or that his "average to below-average" numbers last year were comparable with those of Justin Morneau, and probably would have been better had he not suffered from a concussion for at least 2 weeks?"
Do you realize that Kotchman has taken a huge step back this year and is currently being outplayed by the likes of Lyle Overbay? He is currently 21st in OPS among the 26 qualifying 1B. Maybe his numbers last year were comparable to a down year for Morneau, but Morneau put up a 140 OPS+ the year before and a 146 OPS+ this year. Hell, Adam LaRoche put up a 130 OPS+ his 2nd full season in the bigs and I don't see anyone knocking down the Pirates door trying to acquire him.
Posted by: nixa37 | July 28, 2008 at 12:44 PM
Reynolds and Owings plus alow level prospect for Tex and Ohman. Sounds Fair. Maybe sub Tracey for Reynolds if the DBacks think they are giving up to much. Braves could throw in a AAA pitcher like(JoJo Reyes or Chuck James)to make sure they get Reynolds
Posted by: 5953Smith | July 28, 2008 at 12:45 PM
Oh and in case you were wondering, Kotchman's OPS last season ranked him 15th out of the 20 qualifying 1B. Considering there are 30 teams in the majors, I'd say that is the exact definition of average to below average production for a 1B.
Posted by: nixa37 | July 28, 2008 at 12:47 PM
nixa and AA: OPS is a pretty telling stat, but something I've come to realize is pretty interesting...take the player's OBP, multiply it by 3, and add their slugging. I think it's more telling because it more equally amplifies the hitting and slugging. (this probably doesn't sound like it makes any sense...just fool around with it to see for yourself)
an 3(obp)+s of 1.7 or 1.8 is ridiculous. 1.6 is above average, 1.5 is mildly above average, and 1.4 is average. Last year tex last year, with this stat, had a 1.769, kotchman a 1.583 (all numbers are to date, up until last night).
career 3(obp)+s:
Teixeira: 1.564 (take away his rookie year and it's 1.688...kotchman had 3 seasons of being in the bigs with at bats before his true rookie year...i think doing this balances it out).
Kotchman:1.435
a lot of people who read the site probably think i'm crazy and talking out of my ass, so i'll just end it with saying casey kotchman doesn't land marx teixeira by himself.
Posted by: JohnKruksWaistLine | July 28, 2008 at 01:21 PM
I definitely understand what you're doing, going off the idea that OBP is 3 times as important as SLG. It's probably a more accurate way of looking at things and I appreciate you providing the numbers.
Posted by: nixa37 | July 28, 2008 at 01:29 PM
I would take Masterson or Tucker for Salty.
I can't stand Daniels but this should be an easy one to get done.
Posted by: kinsler5 | July 28, 2008 at 02:35 PM
I am going to be extremely frustrated if the Rangers don't trade any of their 4 catchers. And personally I hope they dump both Laird and Salty. Ramirez will do fine until Teagarden gets back from the Olympics, and Ramirez can then start becoming a full time DH / backup catcher / backup 1st basemen.
Give the BoSox what it takes to get Buchholz (outside of Andrus/Feliz), and give the Marlins Salty for some legit prospects.
Get it done JD!
Posted by: tmoney352 | July 28, 2008 at 03:05 PM
"Reynolds and Owings plus alow level prospect for Tex and Ohman. Sounds Fair. Maybe sub Tracey for Reynolds if the DBacks think they are giving up to much. Braves could throw in a AAA pitcher like(JoJo Reyes or Chuck James)to make sure they get Reynolds"
I get the feeling that if the Braves could bring in that haul for Tex they would run away and hide, giggling with glee. To get a young stud power hitter like Reynolds and a high upside arm in Owings, both from the Georgia area, and both locked up for a while, just for Tex and Ohman they pull the trigger before Byrnes could change his mind. I doubt it will happen though, JB is too smart.
Posted by: nrmax88 | July 28, 2008 at 03:54 PM
Yeah nrmax88, I doubt it too. Reynolds looks like he's gonna be great, especially if he cuts down on the K's.
Posted by: AFROTC Cadet | July 28, 2008 at 04:27 PM
I would say Tracy and Owings for Tex and Ohman. Owings has struggled but has potential. Ohman is a lefty, which we need.
And after Scherzer heals we bring him up.
Go Dbacks.
Posted by: jdub | July 28, 2008 at 04:39 PM
Tracy and Owings for Tex I could see, but I think the dbacks would have to throw in something more to get Ohman. The only way the Braves package the two is if it could get them a better prospect than what they are offered just for Tex or more prospects. In this case they aren't really getting either as Owings hasn't looked like anything special thus far and has already used up 2 years of service time. I'd rather take a lesser return on Tex and then get another decent prospect for Ohman than this deal.
Posted by: nixa37 | July 28, 2008 at 04:56 PM
It's honestly insulting that the Braves would ask for Jackson, in my opinion.
Jackson has been our best position player this year and trading him would go against the D-Backs entire point of getting Tex: To contend.
CoJack is one of our main pieces of our future.
Posted by: jdub | July 29, 2008 at 12:03 AM