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Back on July 10th, ESPN's Jayson Stark said it was "dubious that Toronto would even talk to [the Yankees] about A.J. Burnett." Presumably this is because the Yankees and Jays are division rivals. It should be noted, though, that J.P. Ricciardi and Brian Cashman matched up on a July '02 trade that sent Raul Mondesi to New York for prospect Scott Wiggins.
Yesterday, CBSSports.com's Danny Knobler wrote:
Blue Jays general manager J.P. Ricciardi told Toronto reporters that he now doesn't expect to trade A.J. Burnett. But Burnett's Friday night start at Tampa Bay attracted more than a dozen scouts, including two from the Yankees. Several of the scouts in attendance didn't stay for the rest of the weekend series, a clear indication that they were in town strictly to watch Burnett.
So while we have nothing concrete, there are signs that the Yankees are looking at Burnett. The Cubs reportedly had a guy watching him, too. He and Justin Duchscherer are the two best remaining starters who could conceivably be pried loose via trade.
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Until I have converted you to the realm of peripherals, we will do no agreeing. Your world will never look the same. You'll even be able to show Boston fan friends why Matsuzaka has an imminent 2nd half collapse coming.
Posted by: Not Joe Morgan | July 21, 2008 at 04:55 PM
Duchscherer has only given up 3 earned in ONE game this YEAR. The rest, two or less. THAT is consistancy. THAT makes a great pitcher...and YES....he has been one of the top starters in all of baseball this year.
Pitching a shut-out one game and then giving up 8 the next may make for 4 era...but I'm quite positive ANY team would rather have the guy who keeps his team in the game EVERY game. That's why Duke played in the all star game and AJ wasn't even a distant thought for it.
Posted by: jjyankeesfan2 | July 21, 2008 at 05:01 PM
NJM - I'm trying to keep this cordial...but you will never "convert me" into anything with your rationale. I speak with facts and numbers and have actually played the game...you speak with opinion for one. Two, my thoughts on AJ have been echoed by ever column, every exec, every announcer and GM who has spoken publically about the guy. ALL say the SAME thing. He has #1 starter STUFF...but has never been able to put it together on ANY consistant level whatsoever. Any m0r0n who looks at his game log this year can see the SAME thing...it's right there in black and white.
I'm not responding to this subject any more. I've already wasted WAAAAY too much time discussing it.
Posted by: jjyankeesfan2 | July 21, 2008 at 05:07 PM
"I speak with facts and numbers"
Unlike my facts (K, BB and GB rates correlate strongly from year to year and are the best predictive metrics for ERA) and numbers (see previous parenthetical comment, lots of numbers underlying that).
"and have actually played the game"
Me too! OMG!! Maybe we played against each other!!!
(Never fails that when someone is able to utilize/understands stats that haven't been around for 100 years, they must have never played the game. Thanks for playing Joe Morgan to my NJM. I bet that read really funny for quite a few people.)
I shall bookmark this. We'll see if Burnett's 1st half ERA predicts a similar 2nd half ERA or if his 1st half peripherals predict a better 2nd half ERA. I'm sure one of us will be a gentleman and admit that, atleast in this case, we were wrong.
(You don't need to respond. Wouldn't want to force another "a" or two into your next waaaaaaay.)
Posted by: Not Joe Morgan | July 21, 2008 at 05:21 PM
jj, your baseball thinking is stuck back in 1908. but i'll even entertain how you are evaluating pitchers (which is completely wrong). you think andy pettitte is consistent and aj burnett isnt? they both have made 21 starts this year, and they both have given up 4+ runs 7 of those times, or in other words they each have 2 good starts for every bad one. Exactly what I said the first time.
Posted by: 92-93 | July 21, 2008 at 07:13 PM
Spoken like someone who never played the game.
Posted by: Not Joe Morgan | July 21, 2008 at 07:17 PM
AJ is #2 SP for Jays which arguably one of best SP Teams..
So, AJ is #2 SP
AND, AJ never gonna trade to Yanks...
So, that's it...
Poor Yanks fans
Posted by: stevo | July 21, 2008 at 09:54 PM
I think burnett is a great fit for the yankees. But the yankees need to give up some good young tallent to land burnett in pinstripes. The jays will probaly want phil hughes,jeff marquez,another prospect, and cash. I think it is worth it but hopefully the yankees think it is worth it.
This could be the rotation next season:
Sp Chein-Ming-Wang
Sp A.J. Burnett
Sp Mike Mussina
Sp Andy Pettite
Sp Joba Chamberlain
Posted by: yankeesuniverse | July 22, 2008 at 09:12 AM