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Red Sox Acquire Kotsay
12:01pm: According to ESPN's Keith Law, the Braves will receive minor league outfielder Luis Sumoza.
10:23am: Rosenthal says it's done, though the prospect remains unknown. He is now saying Kotsay did waive no-trade rights, and received $325K to do so.
9:14am: Rosenthal says it's close, but the teams have not yet agreed on the mid-level prospect. He says Kotsay does not have no-trade protection this year.
WEDNESDAY, 8:41am: The latest - The Boston Globe's Amalie Benjamin wrote late last night that a deal had not been agreed upon. Meanwhile, John Tomase of the Boston Herald notes Kotsay's strong relationship with Red Sox owner John Henry. Yahoo's Gordon Edes says the deal is done pending a physical, and the Braves will receive a minor league pitcher.
TUESDAY, 10:38pm: ESPN's Peter Gammons and Buster Olney are reporting that the Red Sox are on the verge of acquiring Kotsay. The two sides are discussing Kotsay's no-trade clause. He was held out of tonight's lineup due to the impending trade.
11:00am: On Sunday, Ken Rosenthal reported the Red Sox were interested in Braves outfielder Mark Kotsay, with the Brewers on the fringes. Rosenthal now says the Brewers' interest has diminished, since Ryan Braun seems fine. Instead, the Phillies are now in the mix for Kotsay given the Geoff Jenkins injury.
Kotsay cleared waivers because of the $1.5MM still owed to him this year. The Braves weren't planning on offering him arbitration this winter, as they don't want to be stuck paying him $8MM in '09. He doesn't project as a Type B anyway. Rosenthal says a mid-level prospect would get a deal done with the Braves, though the teams covered in Kotsay's limited no-trade clause are unknown.
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Posted by: Meoveryouok | August 26, 2008 at 11:08 AM
DO it, do something! this team is in need of some major changes. If you arent going to keep him around why not get something for him. This could be the first of many moves before start of next season
Posted by: thedeuce | August 26, 2008 at 11:09 AM
very doubtful the braves trade within the division and give the sillies any help
Posted by: FranzFerdinand | August 26, 2008 at 12:14 PM
I don't think the Braves give a damn about helping the Phils this year - Atlanta is long since out of the race, and Kotsay's a rental for the Phils. He'd be a great pickup for Philly, providing a good bat and defensive replacement as well as insurance in case Victorino or Werth (both of whom have had injury issues) goes down. At the moment, the Phils are one tweaked hammy from having So Taguchi or Greg Dobbs at an outfield corner every day - not a good place to be in a close division race.
Posted by: ColonelTom | August 26, 2008 at 12:22 PM
David O'Brien at ajc.com is saying Kotsay has been scratched from tonights lineup and is in a closed-door meeting with Bobby Cox. Something's up...
Posted by: NoOrdinaryRabbit | August 26, 2008 at 06:49 PM
I've been reading ESPN.com site (as I am a member) and apparently Braves/Boston are on the verge of a trade with Kotsay going to Boston. No details at this time.
Posted by: BravesFanChris24 | August 26, 2008 at 07:10 PM
linkage
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3554901
Posted by: ehakey | August 26, 2008 at 07:18 PM
not bad for the red sox. it will be interesting to see what they will do for their playoff roster.
Posted by: Calriver | August 26, 2008 at 07:35 PM
Edes says its a done deal: http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ge-kotsay082508&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
For a minor league pitcher... hopefully a career minor leaguer.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | August 26, 2008 at 10:19 PM
He pinch-hit in the Braves/Marlins game.
Posted by: melonis rex | August 26, 2008 at 10:56 PM
From what I read on the Braves Blog on AJC, DOB said that the deal is going to happen pending a physical. Even though Kotsay pinch hit, the deal hasn't been finalized, hence him pinch hitting.
Posted by: BravesFanChris24 | August 26, 2008 at 11:14 PM
Far far more importantly the Red Sox are acquiring Jamie Kotsay. Bless you Theo.
http://umpbump.com/press/hot-baseball-wife-exclusive-jamie-kotsay-modeling-pics/
Posted by: ArodSucksAtLife | August 27, 2008 at 06:44 AM
From ESPN.com:
ESPN.com's Keith Law reports the player going back to Atlanta in exchange for Kotsay is 19-year-old outfielder Luis Sumoza, who is currently playing for Class A Lowell, Mass.
Nice deal for the Sox.
Posted by: bamabosoxfan | August 27, 2008 at 11:26 AM
All things considered, not a bad move. Sumoza is purely projection at this point... despite what a few red sox blogs seem to suggest.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | August 27, 2008 at 12:01 PM
I know there are some Red Sox fans here who have the inside scoop. Are they really looking at Kevin Millwood for a waiver trade?
Posted by: J the Dizzolla | August 27, 2008 at 12:18 PM
I havent really heard much interest on Millwood or Padiila for that matter in Boston, other then routine interest like always. both men carry a sufficient amount of baggage and would never ever make a start for the sox and the red sox bullpen hasnt been playoff good this year, i dont think we need to take anymore bullpen risks
Posted by: 04Forever | August 27, 2008 at 12:21 PM
i also think becketts return on friday really messes up a pitcher trade
Posted by: 04Forever | August 27, 2008 at 12:22 PM
holy crap his wifes hot!
Posted by: 04Forever | August 27, 2008 at 12:28 PM
I'd be shocked if Padilla or Millwood gets traded to the Sox. Both have contracts running through 2009, Millwood's is through 2010. Frankly I think another spot start by Zink or a spot start by Bowden would be a far better idea.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | August 27, 2008 at 12:33 PM
"I know there are some Red Sox fans here who have the inside scoop. Are they really looking at Kevin Millwood for a waiver trade? "
No.
Posted by: ArodSucksAtLife | August 27, 2008 at 12:41 PM
I like Sumoza's potential, but at this point he's only potential.
Oh well...
Posted by: Meoveryouok | August 27, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Thanks for the heads up, guys. I figured that the Millwood thing was just a rumor. I can't think how he would help them,
Now, if we can work out a trade this offseason where we send you guys Salty and you send us a young pitcher - that would be groovy.
Posted by: J the Dizzolla | August 27, 2008 at 12:45 PM
you certianly wouldnt get what you paid for to get salty, his trade value is down now with his back to back under par seasons, he will get you something decent but he wont acquire the kings ransom, hes still technically unproven at the mlb level
for the sox, id have to say all major chips are off the table: bucholz, bowden, lowrie, masterson etc.
its hard to come up with something logical, but i agree the centerpiece would have to be a pitcher
Posted by: 04Forever | August 27, 2008 at 01:37 PM
Any discussion of Salty/Teagarden or even Ramirez begins with Buch. I'm not saying that would happen, but the Rangers aren't going to be asking for trash.
Talks probably eventually lead to Bowden, maybe Masterson, which I'd be ok with. Bowden projects as a #3 at best, and while he seems certain to make the big leagues, I'd exchance that for a young talented catcher.
Posted by: Meoveryouok | August 27, 2008 at 01:43 PM
If these guys were off the table for Santana, the best pitcher in baseball, bet bottom dollar they are off for this guy too. they wouldnt get trash, but its not like the sox dont take a risk taking this salty either, its an all prospect deal, theres nothing but risk at all ends. theres no real urgency in boston to replace probably the most beloved back stop, if not one of the most ever, players in the teams history, no matter what the numbers are really.
if i had to get rid of one, it would have to be bowden in a straight up deal, thats certainly fair and a quality for quality deal. i pick bowden because hes not quite ready yet and you really cant use his full value for maybe 2-3 years, hes good, but he is still in portland, hell, hansen did good in portland too
Posted by: 04Forever | August 27, 2008 at 01:51 PM
Bowden is almost guaranteed to be off the table. He has a bulldog mentality that the Red Sox love. In other words, he can likely hold his own in Boston. That and after Bowden (not counting Buch or Masterson) Boston has no great pitching prospect that's near MLB ready... Unless you count Kris Johnson, who might be a decent back end starter some day.
Buch for Teagarden and B prospect.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | August 27, 2008 at 01:54 PM
I think the red sox should be a tad more patient with Bucholz and his progress, i feel he was rushed due to Schillings sudden injury and was thrown into a full time starting role prematurely. no one was ready to give him up until maybe last month now that his numbers are way up, i think we should hold onto him until he turns it around, or were out on our butts with him. I think he should go back to the minors next years, and come back up mid year, hes still something special, i just dont think he was ready and he certainly shouldnt leave just yet, imo of course
Posted by: 04Forever | August 27, 2008 at 02:02 PM
"Sumoza is purely projection at this point... despite what a few red sox blogs seem to suggest."
Posted by: start_wearing_purple
_________________________
What are the other blogs saying?
Posted by: jlowrance | August 27, 2008 at 02:54 PM
Sorry to bring in the Salty stuff on this thread about Kotsay, whose wife is certainly hot.
But as much as I'd love to believe that Buch could be for the having in exchange for one of the Rangers' catchers, I think that's just not going to happen. Theo is a smart man and never trades from a position of weakness. He gave up Beltre, Murphy and Gabbard for Gagne because Murphy & Gabbard had nowhere to go on this team. And Beltre is like 18 - who knows what kind of player he will ever become. It was a good trade for Texas, but you can't blame Theo for doing it.
Anyway, Mrs. Kotsay is pretty.
Posted by: J the Dizzolla | August 27, 2008 at 03:08 PM
"What are the other blogs saying?"
Actually it was the discussion board on soxprospects.com. Some of the members were complaining about how great he'll definitely be. Another had the nerve to call him an A prospect.
Point being, I agree with rotoworld's analysis. It's a boom or bust. Right now, it's good for both sides on paper.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | August 27, 2008 at 03:38 PM
following up on start_wearing_purple, here is his scouting report from soxprospects, sadly he beat me too it:
Scouting Report: Athletic and well-built, Sumoza signed for a big bonus out of Venezuela in mid-2004. Gifted athlete, still very raw. Shows the potential to be a five-tool player, but needs a lot of refinement. High power potential. Above average speed. Strikes out too much, still has some holes in his swing. Hits from a slightly open stance. Keeps his hands around his helmet. Swing tends to get a bit too long and he can jam himself. In the field, Sumoza has above average range, a decent glove, and a good arm. Overall, he has a ton of potential, but still a long way to go.
Posted by: 04Forever | August 27, 2008 at 03:40 PM
hes a 50/50, just like many other guys at this level. he could be a good mid level hitter for some power but not a heck of alot, basically he is kotsay all over again, maybe alittle bit more (unproven) power
Posted by: 04Forever | August 27, 2008 at 03:43 PM
As a Red Sox fan, I dont like this deal. Kotsay should be a salary dump for the Braves, I didnt think the Sox should have had to give anything of value. I understand that it is completely projection, but the guy is very young and was putting up good numbers.
Posted by: themfightnwords | August 27, 2008 at 04:11 PM
"Actually it was the discussion board on soxprospects.com. Some of the members were complaining about how great he'll definitely be. Another had the nerve to call him an A prospect."
If anything it was A Level, from NYPL Lowell Spinners, not grade A prospect.
So yeah that didn't happen at all.
"Any discussion of Salty/Teagarden or even Ramirez begins with Buch. I'm not saying that would happen, but the Rangers aren't going to be asking for trash."
No.
"Buch for Teagarden and B prospect."
No.
Posted by: ArodSucksAtLife | August 27, 2008 at 04:59 PM
Sorry Arod but you're wrong if you think Texas wouldn't begin the discussion with Buch
Why wouldnt they? You aim high and eventually settle..
Posted by: Meoveryouok | August 28, 2008 at 12:59 PM