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ESPN reports today that the 12 Nippon Professional Baseball teams agreed on a conditional ban for amateur players to sign overseas. The agreement was sparked by Junichi Tazawa, the 22 year-old pitcher who hopes to sign with an MLB club. It's a two or three-year ban from playing in Japan, depending on the circumstances.
It doesn't really sound all that discouraging. NPB apparently sent a delegation to the U.S. to discuss the situation with MLB officials. Did anything come of that meeting? Or will MLB just start signing up Japanese amateur players now?
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I don't see this as much of a deterrent. The players will just ask for a three year contract from MLB.
Posted by: Mr. Tauntaun | October 08, 2008 at 10:47 AM
If I'm understanding this correctly, the ban is only a problem if the Japanese amateurs want to return to the NPB after starting out in the US. It doesn't mean that amateurs cannot sign with MLB teams (or other baseball organizations of contries that aren't in Japan) but that if they were to want to return to Japan, they'd then have to sit out 2-3 years.
The only potential problem I see from this (and it may be a semantics issue) is if hypothetically a Japanese high school baseball player wanted to go to college in the US and intended on playing while at school. Assuming he lives on campus and is technically not a US citizen/resident, in that situation, would the player be allowed to return to Japan to start his professional career or would he have to serve the ban (or would he essentially be forced into starting his pro career in the US)?
Posted by: TNS | October 08, 2008 at 12:23 PM
Well, college baseball players don't technically "sign" to play in college.
Posted by: melonis rex | October 08, 2008 at 02:14 PM
You can tell it's been a long day at work when I read a post's title as, "Japanese Teams To Ban Defecating Amateurs"...
Posted by: copusd | October 08, 2008 at 02:35 PM
From what I understand there was an "unspoken rule" between the two leagues that they wouldn't draft out of each others' countries. This situation with Tazawa is the first case and I've heard that the Nippon Baseball League is furious that the MLB crossed the line. I'm no expert, but I think we may be undervaluing the importance of Honor in Japanese culture. Being banned from Japanese baseball (for any amount of time) will probably shame Tazawa terribly and could serve to discourage others in the future.... or maybe they'd hide from the shame behind curtains of hundred dollar bills.
Posted by: MUNGHERO | October 08, 2008 at 02:38 PM
Take a gander at the success-level of Japanese players, especially Japanese position players. In nearly every case, Japanese ALL-STARS have come to the US and saw their production drop-off considerably. In fact, most have been average to just bad.
Now, these are the best players that Japan has to offer, what would you expect from amateurs?
I think the market will sort this out, when it comes down to it, the players from that region just haven't been all that good (on the whole).
Posted by: Indy_BB | October 08, 2008 at 03:41 PM
i could see yankees goin afta him-but they are pro. afriad to bid on a japanizzze playa because of what happened with kie igawa
Posted by: addymaster04 | October 08, 2008 at 03:55 PM
very true the only real player that had success from japan was ichiro
Posted by: derman1984 | October 08, 2008 at 03:56 PM
Takashi Saito? Hideki Matsui? Hideo Nomo? Hasegawa? Matsuzaka?
Also the argument that their amateur players aren't good makes no sense.
Posted by: Tim Dierkes | October 08, 2008 at 04:24 PM
"Now, these are the best players that Japan has to offer, what would you expect from amateurs?"
Huh? If you take an amateur from Japan, bring him to the US, and have him play against the better competition while he progresses, it will be better for him. When you sign a guy like fukudome, he has been in Japan for ever, and that is all he knows. He never had a chance to play and develop with the kind of talent that he is being asked to compete with now that he is in the US. But, do you think if Kosuke was playing in the MLB from the time he was 22, that he would have had a better chance to develop more, playing with better talent? Seems like an obvious "yes" to me.
Posted by: nrmax88 | October 08, 2008 at 04:31 PM
Honestly I would just like to throw this out there:
People are becoming too quick to judge Fukudome as a complete and utter bust. I mean yeah, the guy was a bust this year, but he can still redeem himself. He was a freaking rookie and when he struggled everyone was completely shocked. He's got awesome plate discipline and is still a big plus in right, so if he can learn to hit even adequately he would be a big help.
I personally have yet to right off Fukudome, he can still make adjustments.
Posted by: scribbletone | October 08, 2008 at 04:36 PM
Creating a viable Minor League system in Japan is something Bobby Valentine has been trying desperately to do. There's no where for the young guys to cut their teeth other than schools. Bobby V has found a lot of resistance in his attempts to found a minor league. If they'd only set up a Minor League system, they wouldn't have this problem.
Posted by: Groty | October 09, 2008 at 08:37 AM