Possible Cano Suitors

Ian Snell has nowhere near the value Cano has. In fact, I can't see Snell having too much value at all.

I could see a McLouth-for-Cano swap, but nothing less from the Pirates' end.

The Yankees need to be blown away for a deal for Cano. They're clearly not looking to dump him.

The Yanks need a lot of things besides CF and starting pitching. They could use a 1B. They're catcher and most of the rest of their outfield are getting old. In reality, SS and 3B are the only truly secure positions. So why add 2B to that list?

Will a Javier Vazquez for Cano deal work? The Yankees have said how much they regret dealing Vazquez

"The Giants could use Sanchez in a better deal."

True.. I'm sure Frandsen and Burriss combined next year could get close to the stats Cano put up this year.

Hopefully Sabes go for Uggla.

i find the opinions of yankee fans completely flawed over the value of cano, if they don't recall snell had a similar year, but before he was our ace. so if snell's value is next to nothing, then i suppose cano's is not worth much either. i mean, 2b that bat near .290 can come in the form of some veteran like chris gomez, not saying he's more talented, but just making a point. Also, i believe snell is in the same position as ol. perez was in for us and look where he stands now....

Yankee fans WAY overvalue Cano, especially given his attitude problems. Mclouth is worth so much more than Cano that it's ridiculous.

Yankee fans WAY overvalue Cano, especially given his attitude problems. Mclouth is worth so much more than Cano that it's ridiculous.

And Yankee haters are WAY undervaluing Cano... There is a happy median, and his value lies somewhere near there.

I still don't think trading Cano is a good move by the yanks. Anyway it would mean everything would have to go right for the yanks, meaning they'd have to instantly sign Hudson. But since all those teams want a second baseman, it's not a leap to suggest one of those teams could outbid the yanks.

Shelley Duncan from '06.

Good job johns, I didn't even have to read the rest of your post.

Why don't people care about facts, rather than what they hear from ESPN and Peter Gammons?

And, the Pirates could have had a better haul from the Yankees if they'd stuck to their initial picks. Instead of Phil Coke and George Kontos, however, the word is they listened to the outrage of morons like you and chose instead...Jeff Karstens and Dan McCutchen.

The Pirates are such a terrible, terrible franchise.

That said, Tabata could still be a stud outfielder. They may yet win the trade in the end, but there's no doubt they willingly downgraded for no reason other than a lack of front office competence.

the only way cano should be traded is if we get lincecum, king felix, clayton kershaw or chad billingsley, and since thats NEVER gonna happen he wont be traded

What about Jonathan Sanchez and Eugenio Velez/Kevin Frandsen for Cano and Ian Kennedy?

Kennedy would give the Giants a ready replacement for Sanchez, and he would likely pitch far better in the NL West than the AL East. With Cano, and Nick Noonan in the minors, Frandsen and Velez would be excessive. They could be potential replacements for Cano, and then Sanchez would give them a power lefty for the rotation.

And the Yanks couldn't get McLouth for Cano straight up. One interesting idea though: McLouth and Adam LaRoche for Cano, Kennedy, Melky and a low level prospect. The Pirates would then have an interesting young lineup:
C- Doumit
1B- Pearce
2B- Cano
3B- LaRoche
SS- Wilson
LF- Moss
CF- McCutchen
RF- Cabrera

With a rotation of Maholm, Snell, Gorzelanny, Duke and Kennedy.

This team would be really cheap too and the Pirates could likely add a free agent or two

i kinda like the cano for kemp deal but it doesnt really make sence for the dodgers. my guess is he stays in n.y, the yankees should trade damon before hes a free agent. maybe next year go fo darvish if hes posted.

Prince Fielder and Rickie Weeks
for
Phillip Hughes and Robinson Cano

That is interesting idea you have Scribbletone, though I doubt that the Giants are willing to bite on Sanchez, being a proven pitcher, along with Velez a young and speedy second baseman about the same age as Cano already is in the 1st place.

No reason for this trade in the 1st place, except to go backwards, all the risks are on the Giants with Kennedy as Sanchez has proven he can pitch in ML and ket the strikeouts and innings, just his consistency needs to be improved.

Baltimore has the talented young starting pitching, but it's at the Double-A level. NY wants MLB-ready starters, and they'd most-likely be after Jeremy Guthrie. No thanks.

Would the Dodgers do a Kemp and Dewitt for Cano and Melkey? Has Melky lost that much value? He may succeed outside NY... The Dodgers could afford to weaken the OF to improve their IF. Then Resign Manny. Use Manny Pierre and Melkey Lf-RF..

Kemp/DeWitt for Cano/Melky is even more lopsided than just Kemp for Cano. No deal.

And I actually think Weeks/Fielder for Cano/Hughes makes sense in every way for both teams except one thing: The Yankees sort of need Hughes for the rotation. The lineup can still dominate even if they have Adam LaRoche at first rather than Prince. But a rotation where the only two sure things are Wang and Joba, would be a serious issue.

Now let's say both Pettitte and Mussina come back for $25M, and the Yankees sign anoher free agent (this is all very unlikely), then maybe I make that deal. A lineup of Damon, Jeter, Fielder, Rodriguez, Posada, Nady, Matsui, Weeks and a CF would be awesome. Weeks could potentially move to center, where he could focus more on offense and become the hitter scouts thought he would be. They all say he still has the bat speed and talent, it's all about approach. A new environment could be huge for Weeks, much like it could for Cano.

How about Cano for Pujols? Cano for Cliff Lee and and Grady Sizemore? Or maybe the Rays would give up Price and Longoria. The fantasy land the Yankee fans live in and allows them to overrate talent is maddening.

Scriblestone interesting ideas.

On the Sanchez & Velez idea: I think Giants fans need to realize Velez is a fun player to watch but he has not proven he can stick at the Mlb level and to the rest of the league he is basically a throw in. Cano has proven he can play every day in the majors so that’s some risk being removed from the Giants side of ledger. I still don’t think the Giants do it just because it does nothing for the left side of the infield.

The Pirates idea though seems really interesting. With all those young players in the majors it would also given them time to get the farm up and running.

Laroche and Snell and a throw in for Hughes and Cano?

Why aren't the Padres mentioned? It doesn't seem as if they have a solid second baseman for the future (unless they put Kouzmanoff there for good, which doesn't seem likely).

Is it possible that, since the Padres are shopping Jake Peavy, the Yankees and Padres can work out a trade involving both Cano and Peavy? Like Cano, Phil Hughes, Austin Jackson, and another pitching prospect (Melancon? Aceves? Kennedy even?) for Peavy and a low-level prospect? If the Yankees can lock up Peavy for a long time, that can go a long way toward building another long-term contender.

Plus the Padres have Matt Antonelli slotted in at second anyways

As for Kennedy/Cano for Snell/LaRoche, that deal really makes zero sense for New York. If the Yankees wanted a young pitcher for their rotation, they might as well give Kennedy a shot considering Snell's struggles last season. And Cano is worth far more than LaRoche, way more than the value difference between Snell and Kennedy.

The proposal I brought up before, McLouth/LaRoche for Cano, Kennedy and Melky, would make more sense to me. McLouths value is huge, moreso than Cano, and LaRoche is still somewhat valuable. Melky is pretty much worthless but would be a reasonable stopgap for the Pirates. Kennedy is still a solid prospect as well. I just think that the Yanks would only do the deal with McLouth in it, rather than Snell

The Yankees arent trading Cano. I say he has maybe a 5% chance of being traded. He hit well after the ALL Star Break, hes only 26 he sees ligit to me.

What about to the Phillies in a package for Ryan Howard? You could have...

Yankees get: 1B Ryan Howard
Phillies get: RHP Phil Hughes, 2B Robinson Cano, OF Austin Jackson, RHP Jeff Marquez

Or, to the Brewers in the same package (maybe without Marquez or Kennedy instead of Jackson) for Fielder. It's all possible.

metsobsessed I like the Howard idea but I think Hughes Cano and Jackson is a little much.

My guess is the Yankees could sign Orlando Hudson for similar money to what they'd be paying Cano over the next 4 years and could trade Cano for pitching and end up better in the short term.

It is my belief that Cano would be an amazing player if he moved away from the Yankees. He seems complacent on their team, and there is no doubt he is a talent. Giants fans saying they "don't need Cano" are ignorant. The Giants need any offensive improvements they can get, and he is one.

mclouth and laroche for cano, cabrera,kennedy and marquez? pass

and pass on jon garland he had a 1.5 whip

Lets not forget guys what happened Sorriano when he didnt hustle the same thing will happen to Cano he's gone.The yankees need grit and heart on the team like Bernie and Oneil used to bring.I would like cashman to look at the Rangers who are stacked with hitters that they cant afford and are in desparate need of pitching.I would look at Ian Kinsler and i really like Chris Davis look at that kids numbers he put up for half a season hes an absolute stud and would look good at 1st...my offer Cano,Hughes and kennedy

i dont know if any yankee fans recall, but the pirates had a player named warren morris who played 2B and won rookie of the year, but after that got worse and worse

You Anti-Cano people are jokes. Please understand that it's OTHER teams and OTHER industry exerts that rate Cano and prospect and not just Yankee supporters. Anyone who doesn't view Cano as one of the best young players in the game is a joke. Stats can be used to tell any kind of story you want and thats why a little knowledge in the wrong hands is dangerous. But since you guys want to focus on numbers take a look at this:

Cano Lifetime Stats

Runs-Hits-2B-HR-RBI-OBP-BAVG
05- 78- 155- 34-14- 62 - .320 - .297
06- 62- 165- 41-15- 78- .365- .342
07- 93- 189- 41-19- 97- .353- .306
08- 70- 162- 35-14- 72- .305 .271

Obviously his numbers slipped in ’08 but coming off a career year in 07 it doesn’t look as if his struggles are indicative of a full career slide. He’s at 26 years old teams might have adjusted to him and he will have to adjust to them.

08 batt avg break down by month

April- .151
May .297
June .287
July .327
August .290
September .287

Other than a horrendous April he hit around .290-.300. Cano is not one to draw a walk. He gets on base with his bat. So as his poor hitting goes so does his obp.

’08 Cano vs other AL 2B

At Bats- 5th
Runs- 7th
Hits-7th
DBls-5th
Hrs-5th
Rbis-4th
BB-12th
Sos-3rd fewest strike outs
OBP-9th
BA-8th
Slug-7th

If you look at where he ranks in what was an off year then it’s safe to say that in an avg year he would be top 3-5 across the board in every category except for walks. If his hit/baa vg are up so will his obp and in his 06 and 07 years his obp (which is an overused stat in my opinion) would’ve have been at a very acceptable .350 + clip.

The Yankees should NOT make a runs for Holiday? Why? We don't need a bat, especially for a LF. if a big bat is what we needed then it would make 100% more sense to sign Tex as a FA rather than trade players and prospects for Holliday who is a FA in 09. Why go thru all that trouble to bring in a career NL player when you can bring in a career AL who's pretty much going to give you the same thing?

I agree with Nyyankees34:

Why would we trade an all-star 2b who's 26 yrs old and has put 4 solid years in the majors for a 27 year old CF with avg defensive skills and has had only one decent year?

26hrs, 93 rbis and .276 are not exceptional numbers coming from the NL. Too many questions. He has no history of success. Was last year a fluke.

More importanly. WIll he make the Yanks a better team? Then we would open up a hole at 2nd base where we would have to sign/trade for another 2B. McLouth doesn't solve any of the Yanks important problems. Neither does going after Holliday.

You're going to have to give good players away to receive good players in return. One hole you fill may lead to another hole. The Yankees shouldn't look primarily to the free agent market, unless they don't care about losing draft picks (which they should).

The main reason to make these trades (which I'm not saying will happen) would be to shake things up. Sometimes, the same ol' players won't cut it, and maybe the Yankees need to bring in new players to change the dynamic and personality of the team. It may or may not work, but at least it shows they're trying.

Bringing in Adam LaRoche would patch up a hole at first base, and bringing in McLouth would allow Gardner and Jackson to grow and mature a bit more before starting on an everyday basis. The Holliday trade would essentially replace the power bat Giambi takes with him to the free agency market. If we sign Hudson, that adds some defense and patches up the vacancy at second base.

Realistically, the Yankees will probably just sign Burnett and Tex, but they'd lose a first round draft pick.

Smartalec92:

Bringing in McLouth would block Jackson/Gardner for at least a couple of years or would make them switch to LF. that doesn't help. We have more CF options than we do 2B options in the minors. Trading Cano for a CF doesn't make us better in 09 or in the future. You create an organizational log jam at one spot and you create a hole at another. the Yanks should not be worried about losing a 1st round pick BUT if we do it should be for a front line pitcher. Pitching is the only MAJOR hole that I'm worried about right now. Tex is something worth looking at bcuz all it costs would be money. However, I'm against giving him more than 5 years.

Smarlatec:

The Yankees have three possible candidates for CF in Melky, Gardner and Jackson. Jackson probably isn't ready for 09 and is only 21 so there's no need to rush him. I'm more than happy w/ them using Melky as defense is my first priority. His bat will come and if he can hit .270 15 hrs and 70 rbis at some point in his career but play great defense then we should be happy. McLouth brings offense at the spot. I could care less about his hrs and rbis. Nady is a good player that the Yanks should try to resign if he puts up comparable numbers next year (.285 25 hrs, 35 dbls and 90 rbis). If the Yanks sign a top FA in CC or Burnett than that's more important than a #1 pick. If it were possible to trade your #1 pick in 09 for CC at age 28 wouldn't you make that deal? Now if they signed Derek Lowe and had to give up a #1 then i would be upset. Right now prospects shouldn't be traded unless you're getting a young , experienced high end player in return. If the Yanks were to trade Hughes and a prospect for a 25-28 yr old #1 pitcher like a Peavy or Holes then that would be different. AND PLEASE I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT ANY TEAM WOULD WANT TO MAKE THAT DEAL. I'M JUST GIVING AN EXAMPLE AS TO WHAT I WOULD OR WOULD NOT DO.