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Angels Rumors: K-Rod, Teixeira, Figgins

Randy Youngman of the Orange County Register has some Angels rumors.

Youngman heard that Angels owner Arte Moreno has already decided against bringing back Francisco Rodriguez. If the Angels don't re-sign K-Rod, they could give the closer's job to Jose Arredondo, the 24-year-old reliever who had a 1.62 ERA in 61 innings as a rookie this year. The Angels were one of four teams who asked to see reliever Chad Cordero's medical records this week.

Youngman expects the Angels to make Mark Teixeira an offer before their exclusive rights to him expire Thursday. He predicts a six or seven year offer for about $20MM per season. Earlier in the week, Buster Olney expected a similar offer.

If the Angels trade for Garrett Atkins, Youngman suggests that Chone Figgins could move to left field and replace Garret Anderson.


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I would like to suggest Figgins gets traded to the White Sox for Jermaine Dye.

Do the Angels no have faith in Reggie Willits? If they are gonna relocate Figgins trade Willits to the Sox they could use him

why not move Figgans to Short. Willits to LF and then trade for Atkins

I hope we don't trade for Atkins. That would be awful.

Figgins doesn't need to go to short. We already have Izturis and Aybar. Wood can also play SS and 3B.

I'm not a huge fan of closing the door on K-Rod. I have a feeling that he will settle for far less than his original 5/75. If we could resign him for 4/50 that would make a lot of sense.

Bet Willits could be had for virtually nothing. I do like having him around as he provides + defense and can run off the bench. That said, he won't have a starting role with the club.

Given the amount of cash the Angels have tied up in the OF, it's no surprise that they aren't interested in career minor leaguers with 3/4 of a solid season under their belt.

There are at least 4 guys on the Angels that can play better SS than Figgins. He's been better than expected at 3B, but LF would be a good spot for him if a power hitter can be found. Atkins has unfortunate road splits however.

The Angels don't need Figgins to play SS.. as stated above, they have 4 of them in Aybar, Izturis, Wood and Sean Rodriguez...all very capable defensively.

After Willits went once through the league, he's hit around the .200 mark. I love his speed, but he's not an everyday outfielder... at least not for a playoff contender.

I have heard similar rumors about Teixeira wanting to play back East. Regardless, I don't think it's in his or Boras's interest to sign quickly... and I expect the Angels will move in a different direction before the holidays.

I agree with the Angels in the sense that I do believe Chone Figgins needs to be traded. Don't get me wrong, I like Figgins, but I would like Brandon Wood given a shot at least to start the season as an everyday player as I think he would breakout knowing he would be playing every day. A rumor I had heard, that has now died down, that I thought would be the ideal scenario for the Angels was acquiring Matt Holliday from the Rockies.

If we managed to pick up Holliday by trade involving Figgins, and maybe a couple minor leaguers whether it be a pitcher like Nick Adenhart, or maybe tossing in Reggie Willits, then that would free up 3rd base for Brandon Wood, and we could plug Holliday in that vacant Left Field spot.

The Angels have already hinted that they would be willing to spend huge money, so I don't think it would be too farfetched, to sign Mark Teixeira, and trade for Holliday, and maybe pick up a middle of the pack free agent pitcher to use as a #5 starter, given that we let Frankie, Juan Rivera, Garrett Anderson, and Jon Garland all walk, which is what I would hope happens given the possiblity.

Also, letting all of those players go would also free up a DH/RF for Kendry Morales which he could split up with Vlad Guerrero given Vlad's knees and outfield deficiencies. Obviously, this is all wishful thinking on my part, but I wouldn't think its out of the question just as long as the Angel management felt the same way.

The possiblity of a line-up looking like this excites me:

1. Maicer Izturis/Erik Aybar
2. Howie Kendrick
3. Mark Teixeira
4. Vlad Guerrero
5. Matt Holliday
6. Torii Hunter
7. Mike Napoli
8. Brandon Wood
9. Kendry Morales

Probably a little more power than Scioscia would be used to, but I don't think it would hurt to give it a shot given our recent lack of success in the playoffs. Even its not Matt Holliday, maybe a work out a trade for another Outfield Power Bat, like someone mentioned earlier, a Jermaine Dye, or anyone else that could fit into the Angels style of play.

The more I think about it, the Mets really should offer K-Rod a deal like 3/36. What team out there will even match that offer if the Angels aren't interested? How many serious fits are there for K-Rod? Detroit maybe, but supposedly they are trying to slash payroll. St Louis? They are too smart of an organization, I can't see them offering much more then that for a closer. Milwaukee needs BP help, but they aren't spending that type of cash on a closer either. I really can't think of any team besides the Mets who would be willing to pay even close to what he wants. I have been openly against K-Rod coming to the Mets, but if you can get him on a 3 year deal for around 40 million, I couldn't object. I would not go above 3 years, and I would not offer him 15 million a year. Maybe 13, preferably 12. What team would K-Rod be a good fit on for 3/39 besides the Mets right now?

"If the Angels trade for Garrett Atkins, Youngman suggests that Chone Figgins could move to left field and replace Garret Anderson."


"What team would K-Rod be a good fit on for 3/39 besides the Mets right now?"

If that is what K-Rod would take, the Angels would have locked him up already. Their tabled offer is 4/52, and he is worth every penny of that for the combination of production and marketability. 5/75 and 4/60 is what the Halos have balked at.

@ Sam Sanchez - Why would you trade an established guy like Figgins so a still unproven Wood can play everyday. It is harder to find a guy like Figgins, with the combo of great OBP skills, lightening speed and GG caliber defense (look up his 3B numbers, they are out of this world) for a guy who is easier to find (a slugger prone to Ks and without much in the way of OBP). If anything, Wood should be playing SS or DH, not replacing Figgins.

"After Willits went once through the league, he's hit around the .200 mark. I love his speed, but he's not an everyday outfielder... at least not for a playoff contender."

Willits is basically a switch-hitting Juan Pierre with a better arm who replaces contact with walks. If Willits could hit like Pierre with the same eye, he would be locked into LF for the Angels. As it is, his patience has actually cost him because he is overly selective with his pitches and lets a lot of them pass right down the middle.

"There are at least 4 guys on the Angels that can play better SS than Figgins. He's been better than expected at 3B, but LF would be a good spot for him if a power hitter can be found."

Ugh. You don't seem to know Figgins' history. He was drafted by the Rockies as a SS and can probably play that position better than Rodriguez (who is actually a natural CF), Wood and maybe even Izturis. Aybar is the only one there with more raw SS talent. As for 3B, Figgins may well have been the best all-around 3B in the AL when you look at both the sabermetric numbers and the classic ones. He not only gets to every ball and has one of the strongest arms at the position in baseball, he also doesn't boot anything. Sure, he can play above-average defense at any position other than C, but 3B really seems to be his home, so why change it because 3B are "supposed" to be power hitters.

"why not move Figgans to Short. Willits to LF and then trade for Atkins"

Atkins is a terrible defensive 3B. I mean truly bad. Based on 2008 numbers alone, where Atkins only played about 2/3 of the season at 3B, that would be a 22 run turn around in +/- alone. When you add Atkins' terrible road numbers to that, I don't care how many homers that dude hit at Coors, he is a terrible downgrade, especially in a pitcher's park like Anaheim Stadium. Also, why Willits in LF? Why not have Kendry Morales play there? He may not handle the position as well, but he has a strong arm and will certainly hit better.

Can Figgins play second? I wonder what the Angels would want back for Figgins if the Mets were willing to take GMJ's contract off their hands. Any thoughts?

AA.... good point. I didn't even think of the Angels. If that is all it would cost, I am sure they would bring him back.

"Can Figgins play second? I wonder what the Angels would want back for Figgins if the Mets were willing to take GMJ's contract off their hands. Any thoughts?"

You should probably look him up. ;-) Figgins has 111 games at 2B in the majors and was anticipated to come up at that position. Still, why would the Angels hurt Figgins' value by packaging him with GMJ? That contract doesn't mean all that much in the grand scheme of things to the Angels and I am sure they could do a salary dump on him. He would actually be ideal for the Cubs at this point.

Anyway, the one I would be asking to play 2B would be Wright, given that Figgins is the better defensive 3B ;-)

"AA.... good point. I didn't even think of the Angels. If that is all it would cost, I am sure they would bring him back. "

Yeah. If 3/39 was the price, your Mets would be hosed in this one and Brian Fuentes would be asking $8 million a year. Like said, the Angels are already set to pay him 4/52 if he wants it, and I think that is the most likely thing to happen.

He may be the better 3B, but he would almost automatically also be the better 2B, which is a more important defensive position.

Getting rid of GMJ's contract would certainly help to bring back Tex, or K-Rod, or both. I just don't even know what the Angels would be looking for in a trade. Not specific names, just what area they would be looking to improve.

"@ Sam Sanchez - Why would you trade an established guy like Figgins so a still unproven Wood can play everyday. It is harder to find a guy like Figgins, with the combo of great OBP skills, lightening speed and GG caliber defense (look up his 3B numbers, they are out of this world) for a guy who is easier to find (a slugger prone to Ks and without much in the way of OBP). If anything, Wood should be playing SS or DH, not replacing Figgins."

@AA:
I'm not gonna downplay how valuable Figgins has been to our to team, but the Angels have obviously already put Figgins out there on the trading block pretty much. I think my scenario easily tops the possibility of getting Garrett Atkins at third. The Angels could shake up a few things and I don't think taking a risk with Brandon Wood at third instead of Figgins offsets the how good it could be for the team to acquire another solid power bat for the outfield. Brandon Wood, at the end of the year, finally began to show some promise, it was only when he finally get steady playing time. He is solid defensively, and has experience playing third, though primarily a shortstop. In worse case scenario, he would end up being like a .240 with about 15+ HRs, which I would imagine those power numbers could potentially even be in the 20-25 range as early as next year. And in my opinion coupling that with getting a Matt Holliday, or a Jermaine Day, or a ::insert whoever else may be on the market::, (I would say Pat Burrell, but I'm pretty sure he's staying with the Phillies), I think its a fairly low risk, high reward situation.

And as I said previously, I think the Angels should try a shift to playing more of a power team out there, that could still play small ball, rather than a small ball team, with a little bit of pop. If the Angels would have got out of the first round at least once in the last couple of years, maybe I would be less enthusiastic about switching things up a tad, but I feel it should at least be considered.

IF the Yankees can manage to get Teixeira, CC Sabathia, & AJ Burnett, their lineup & rotation would be stacked

CF Damon (Gardner)
SS Jeter (Betemit/Ransom)
RF Abreu (Nady)
3B A-Rod (Betemit/Ransom)
1B Teixeira (Nady)(Betemit/Ransom)
DH Matsui (ANYONE)
LF Nady (Damon)
C Posada (Molina)
2B Cano (Betemit/Ransom)

SP CC Sabathia
SP Wang
SP AJ Burnett
SP Mike Mussina
SP Andy Pettitte
*SP* Joba (if only 1/2 of Mussina & Pettitte sign)

If the Angels can manage to get Tex, Sabathia, Burnett, Dunn, Burrell, and trade for Holliday, their lineup & rotation would be stacked.

I was just thinking that if the Cubs can move Lee for Sanchez, and then Sanchez, Pie, Cedeno and Marshall for Peavy and Adrian Gonzalez, trade Soriano for Vernon Wells, trade Jose Ceda and Tyler Colvin for Matt Holliday, and then sign Sabathia, Manny, Wood, K-Rod, and Furcal, we would be stacked.

SS Furcal
2B DeRosa
RF Holliday
LF Manny
3B Ramirez
1B Gonzalez
C Soto
CF Wells

SP Peavy
SP Sabathia
SP Zambrano
SP Harden
SP Lilly

With a back of the bullpen of K-Rod, Wood and Marmol.

Check out that. I'm the best.

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yeah i think the angels would need to be blown away to trade figgins, hes to valuable to them.

if the angels lose tex they should sign dunn. and play him at lf/dh/1b.

figgins 3b
kendrick 2b
vladdy rf/dh
dunn lf/dh/1b
hunter cf
morales 1b/lf
wood/aybar/izturis ss
mathis/napoli c
fill in the holes as the days progress.

i also think they need to bring back garret anderson, he is a lifetime angel and he still is a good hitter.

"I'm not gonna downplay how valuable Figgins has been to our to team, but the Angels have obviously already put Figgins out there on the trading block pretty much."

Who says they have put him out there? Rumors don't equate to a trade. You would think that after all these rumors, he would have been traded already if any were true. A healthy Chone Figgins is the most important player in that offense, with the exception of Vladimir Guerrero.

"In worse case scenario, he would end up being like a .240 with about 15+ HRs, which I would imagine those power numbers could potentially even be in the 20-25 range as early as next year. And in my opinion coupling that with getting a Matt Holliday, or a Jermaine Day, or a ::insert whoever else may be on the market:"

With Wood's K/BB numbers, .240 and 15 HR would translate to a giant black hole in the lineup. You would be talking a .290 OBP there and none of the speed of Figgins. As for Dye, he is old and Holliday's .891 OPS outside Coors, while still nice, is little better than that of what Andre Ethier, for example, does for much less money. Aside from that, you end up losing the versatility Figgins offers.

"And as I said previously, I think the Angels should try a shift to playing more of a power team out there, that could still play small ball, rather than a small ball team, with a little bit of pop. If the Angels would have got out of the first round at least once in the last couple of years, maybe I would be less enthusiastic about switching things up a tad, but I feel it should at least be considered."

The Angels won the World Series playing this style of baseball, and they did it with lower quality starting pitching. The main issues the Angels have had these last few years in the first round has been really luck related. This year, they had plenty of power in the lineup come playoff time (Vlad, Teix, Hunter, Anderson, Napoli), but their vaunted pitching staff had a few poor games and they ran into hot pitching on the other side, just like last year. It is really hard to overcome 2 starts like Lester had in a best of 3 series.

Anyway, with a full year of a healthy Mike Napoli playing a good chunk at DH, which seems to be the plan, the Angels will gain a super productive bat with legit .280/.400/.500 potential. I mean, of the guy's 62 hits this year, 30 went for extra bases. That is insane. The team really just doesn't need more power if they get Teix back and perhaps try to work Wood in at short. It would be lunacy to move a guy like Figgins, who plays a perfect game for Scioscia.

"He may be the better 3B, but he would almost automatically also be the better 2B, which is a more important defensive position."

Perhaps, but it also seems that Figgins, anecdotally anyway, gets hurt when playing 2B. He really isn't a great match for the Mets anyway, as they have enough speed, though he could make sense as the Mets' RFer.

"IF the Yankees can manage to get Teixeira, CC Sabathia, & AJ Burnett, their lineup & rotation would be stacked"

Thankfully you provided the amended line up and rotation to prove they would indeed be stacked. Where would the world be without Yankee fans like you?

Anyone think the Angels aren't the least bit concerned with a rookie or Scot Shields closing?

"Anyone think the Angels aren't the least bit concerned with a rookie or Scot Shields closing?"

Arredondo isn't a rookie anymore and made a very good, but quiet case for ROTY in 2008.

That said, I agree with you and that is why I think the Angels should stand firm on that 4/52 they offered K-Rod and have it ready for when the Mets don't offer the same money. Forget Brian Fuentes, unless he wants to take LHSU money.

Looks like the A's (trading for Holiday) are forcing the Halos hand...

Cough, cough, choke, choke...let me gather my breath, trade Figgins and allow Aybar/Izturis to man the 1-hole???!!!

If anything, Scioscia will have his say to disallow that as Aybar shows the inconsistent plate discipline and contact for it now.

So then, there's DA PLAN, whether to hold onto Aybar or Wood for SS as Figgins moves to LF. I'd say trade Aybar and make this deal:

Send Aybar and Matt Brown to the Padres for THE KOUZ, who's THEE best clutch power bat for the Halos lineup and ballpark to get. They've proven it with the THE SPEIZ before, now THE KOUZ is looking right at them for it now.

If it's Adenhardt and Aybar they ask for instead, i'd consider that, too. However, it would force them to move Headley to 3B where they'd need an OF by trade or FA.

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