Red Sox Pursuing Teixeira

One thing over looked here is that Teixeira was a Yankees fan growing and he loved Don Mattingly... I think he would be extremely ecstatic to have an opportunity to play for his favorite team, at his idol's position, wearing his idol's number (while raking in the cash also helps)

the sox should definitly make a major push for Tex. Here could be their lineup and rotation to start next year:

1.) Jacoby Ellsbury
2.) Dustin Pedroia
3.) Mark Teixeira
4.) David Ortiz
5.) Kevin Youkilis
6.) J.D Drew
7.) Jason Bay
8.) Jarood Saltilamachhia/Jason Varitek
9.) Jed Lowrie

SP- Jon Lester
SP- Josh Beckett
SP- Daisuke Matsuzaka
SP- A.J Burnett/Derek Lowe
SP- Wakefield/Masterson/Bowden

and we can get Salty by trading bucholtz for him

How does this look?

Hope M.T. goes to NYY or BOS. He deserves being on a playoff contender after trying mightily to get us there for years. Go M.T.!

"That increases the likelihood of trading Lowell to Minny...

Wouldn't Lowell be relatively cheap? He was injured a lot..."

Lowell to Minnesota actually sounds like a good move. He's got a good amount left on his contract, but if the Sox were willing to eat some of that contract, presumably they could get back a good player or two.

with that l;ioneup, i could guarentee a W.S title

You'd think at $12MM per coming off hip surgery he'd be relatively free.

http://yankeesnmore.blogspot.com/2008/10/why-mark-teixeira-might-like-to-play.html

*Keep in mind that Teixeira was drafted by the Red Sox way back in 1998 but he wasnt satisfied and opted instead to play college ball*

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Imagine what the Sox will look like when they sign Teixeira, C.C., and Burnett! We can then trade Coco for Kemp, Broxton, and Kershaw and Lugo for Johan! What a team! Johan can wear Ted Williams old # as well! OMG, I think I have contracted the dreaded "YANKEE HOMERITIS DISEASE"! Only Phil Hughes can save me now!"

Just go away. For your own sake. You're embarrassing yourself at this point.

"with that lineup, i could guarentee a W.S title"

I love it when people guarantee W.S. titles especially when they can't even spell guarantee. Idiot!

People are forgetting the Orioles in all this. The Orioles are going to come out of nowhere and sign Tex from underneath the Sox and Yankees. Peter Angelos wants to see Teixeira in an Orioles uniform very badly.

Also Tex was a Mattingly fan growing up, but he was a die-hard Orioles fan and has said it would be "a dream come true" to play for his hometown team.

Lol, well said, scribbletone.

As much as I don't want to move Lowell, for a player like Teixeira, you do it. I know it's worth it. If we packaged Lowell with Coco Crisp and, say $15 mil or so, what do you think we could get? Maybe a good prospect or two?

Soxfan93, between the two you are playing them a combined 17.65 million next year, and Lowell another 12 million in 2010 plus Coco buyout (.5 million) or 8 million option. Thats more money than the twins are going to want to pay thats for sure. But maybe the white sox,but i doubt you would get much value in return, maybe 2 B prospects. That assumes of course you kick in the 15 million. Plus i have no idea if the White Sox would want another injury prone 3rd baseman.

"and we can get Salty by trading bucholtz for him"

I don't think that trading Buchholz for Saltalamacchia is a good move. there are already questions about his ability to stay behind the plate in the short-term, and I think Buchholz has more value than him.

I think a better trade with Texas would be Kris Johnson and Chris Carter for Laird. It would give Texas a solid young lefty who is a year away and a LH hitting DH who will be cheap the next 3 years to replace Bradley.

"That sense of entitlement just comes naturally, doesn't it?"

Definitely (and I'm not being sarcastic). We've gotten very used to getting most every free agent we've chased in the last decade.

Zrosey21, you seem to be forgetting about Xavier Nady. I still say the Yankees look to trade Damon and/or Matsui this offseason. Potentially, they could trade Melky Cabrera, too.

Lowell does not have a no-trade clause. Tim posted that at some point over the last few days.

Touchmymonkey, I believe this has been discussed on MLBTR recently. If I remember correctly, Mike Lowell does NOT have a NTC. Instead, be has "no trade protection," meaning he can block deals to 5-10 teams. Anyone, correct me if I'm wrong, as I may very well be.

@touchmymonkey

you want to trade Ortiz for Street? and put him where? setup man? middle reliever? closer? if you put him at closer to move palpebon into the starting role just doesnt make sense to me. he is one of the elite closers in baseball, a guy who almost guarantees a 1-2-3 9th when he's out there and you want to move him into a role he has never filled at the major league level? if you meant to use street as a middle reliever or setup man, Ortiz is a lot to give up for that.

Its all good Soxfan93, i did not intend to come down on ya. I dont get me wrong, there will be a market for him, just it will be more caution than desperation.

Yankfan1, I honestly believe that that isn't true. Theo Epstein has wanted Teixeira since he was first available (from Texas), not to mention asking about him a lot before that. I think that their interest has nothing at all to do with "driving up the price" on the Yankees.

DH Damon
SS Jeter
3B A-Rod
1B Teixeira
RF Abreu
LF Nady
C Posada
2B Cano
CF Gardner/Baldelli

thats what i see in 08

"The Yankees weren't even too heavy on this guy and now they're just bringing the Yankees along."

How do you know this?

(Rhetorical)

1.) Jacoby Ellsbury
2.) Dustin Pedroia
3.) Mark Teixeira
4.) David Ortiz
5.) Kevin Youkilis
6.) J.D Drew
7.) Jason Bay
8.) Jarood Saltilamachhia/Jason Varitek
9.) Jed Lowrie

SP- Jon Lester
SP- Josh Beckett
SP- Daisuke Matsuzaka
SP- A.J Burnett/Derek Lowe
SP- Wakefield/Masterson/Bowden

and we can get Salty by trading bucholtz for him

How does this look?
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Its funny to still see Ortiz in the cleanup spot.

yanks12025

you seem to be missing your DH, having 2 CF's is just unfair

Damon=DH

Sorry

Matsui+philip hughes+cash+Prospects. If they want cano in the deal we could do Matsui+Hughes+Cano but we would need some else with holliday. And are payroll would be around the same.

I think Melky still will be a good servicable CF'r.. he just has to adjust to a league that adjusted to him... still very young.

I don't think Abreu will be back... and I would keep Damon... he is still one of the top leadoff hitters in baseball... Matsui despite his injuries was good while healthy.. I honestly think we're going to see Damon in CF more then 1/2 the time next year.. Especially if we bring back Abreu, or sign Manny for that matter...

As far as Tex.. I don't think he wants to play for Boston.. as turning down to play for them basically because it was Boston that drafted him; but Boston is different nowadays...

But I think he's going to stay in LA.

"Incumbent third baseman Mike Lowell is recovering from hip surgery and isn't expected to be ready until mid-March"

if thats true then hell have the last two weeks of spring training to prove hes healthy. a trade wouldnt happen until after opening day. it would be hard to move him since teams should already have plans in place.

Lowell has negative trade value at this point. He has to prove he's healthy before anyone will even consider making a move for him. Spring training won't be enough time.

The guy is old, under contract for 2 more years, at a market rate for a good, HEALTHY, third baseman. No one is going to trade for him just because his name is Mike Lowell.

So, if you ship out Lowell and eat a chunk of his contract (which you would have to do), it raises the cost of Tex. If you think he's going to cost $20m for next year, are you willing to pay $26m (assuming you eat $6m of Lowell's contract)?

I think this is a ploy by the Red Sox to drive up the asking price for the Angels and Yankees. They will be used like they were last year in the Santana trades.

BoSox and Yankees already both said they will not give him a 10-year deal.

"We've seen HOW MANY long term contracts kill teams in the last couple of years??"

Braves are one of them with Mike Hampton.

i petition for the sox to resign derek lowe. Why not? Wakefield has been a little shakey in the past few years late in the season and lowe has done it for us before and has been putting up pretty damn good numbers. I wouldn't mind passing on guys like cc and going for teix and lowe.

I really hope RSD gets banned but its not going to happen because he stirs controversey in the forums and as wierd as this sounds he makes Tim a lot of money.

how did i know this would be a red sox-yankees sh!t show?

so predictable

"Predictable is a new yorker spelling "wierd". In Boston, the way educated folks were taght, it's spelled "WEIRD"!"

"I mean taught. lol"

Smooth man. Real smooth

Im just wondering why RSD is even being acknowledged. just flat out ignoring It is the best thing we can do. It cant stir the pot if we dont give it the spoon.

Tex could be the next best cleanup hitter in the game to Manny, and being a switch hitting 1st baseman who works counts and hits to all fields, he would be the perfect #4 for the Sox.

the problem is with Lowell. we can't look back and say we shouldn't have got him, because if it wasn't for him we wouldnt have 2007, the world series and Beckett. but i think it would be better that he go now instead of pulling a schilling and overstaying. but, with Cora gone, there could be a possibility he can be what Casey was for us this year and come off the bench as a plus benchman, the only problem is his desire to start, but if this injury lingers, maybe his starting days are over.

Tex as I have said would be a nice addition to the Red Sox roster, but at what costs. I dont mean the money they will have to give him, thats a given. I mean that they have serveral players that will need locking up in the near future that will cost far more than they do now. Youk, Beckett, Bay, Okajima will be free agents in two years (Bay next year), and Lester, Pedroia, Papelbon and Delcarmen will all be Arb eligible. Those are all player the sox will more than likely want to lock up. And in the next two years, only Lugo/Coco/Lowell come off the books. So does adding 20 million/year make total sense?

I know the argument will be that Red Sox have plenty of money, and player might take a discount. I would not count on it thou. And i am not sure the Red Sox want to commit to a payroll like the yankees. (Since according to Forbes, they lost money last year, meaning the Red Sox, not the Yankees)

I would think the money would be better spend on locking up the core of the team you have in place, and then worry about FAs.

ok i saw someone say "abreau better than nady".

what crack pipe have you been hitting? Abreau 10 years ago might have been ALMOST as good as nady's potential limit.

I agree abreau was their most consistant hitter this year and I disagree with trading him but yes. shift damon back to center and put nady in for cabrera. Melky is in the top 5 worst starting CF in baseball. I love Yankees fans who act like they are losing something important if they move him out of center.

Thats like sox fans growing a hard on for Julio lugo (top 5 worst ranked ss)

Nady's potential limit? What does that even mean (both phrasing and logic)? Nady's 30. In a career year, his slash line was right around 2008 Abreu, a tick up in power (and defense), a tick down in OBP (and baserunning). He was good deal worse than Abreu after he came to NY. And to even mention peak Abreu is ridiculous; if Nady ever reaches .300/.400/.500 in a full season (as Abreu did 4 times), I'll find a way to pair Beckett and Santana in Boston. My pledge to you.

2008 Numbers
Abreu: .296/.371/.471
Nady: .305/.357/.510 (.268/.320/.474)