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ESPN's Jerry Crasnick has a fine article up today looking at free agent pitcher Ben Sheets. Sheets, 30, posted a 3.09 ERA in 31 starts this year before an elbow injury shut him down.
Sheets' agent, Casey Close, says Sheets has no structural damage in the elbow and expects it to fully heal before spring training. Close labeled talks with the Brewers "productive," so they're still in the mix. The Brewers will let Sheets reach the open market, though.
Crasnick believes the Rangers will consider Sheets, who lives in Dallas during the offseason. He also says the Astros are on Sheets' wish list. Crasnick suggests the Cubs, Mets, Yankees, and Orioles as other possible suitors.
Some believe Sheets will have to settle for a two-year deal, though I can see him getting three once other big names are off the board.
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30 healthy Ben Sheets starts warrants 3 years in my opinion.
Posted by: Kenan and Kel | November 12, 2008 at 11:39 AM
Could the Indians get in on the action? Purely speculative of course, but it might be nice to have ace material behind Cliff Lee since who knows how Lee will do this coming season.
Posted by: Eltiante34 | November 12, 2008 at 11:43 AM
If he only requires 3 years, the Yankees should jump at getting him.
Posted by: AndrewYF | November 12, 2008 at 11:43 AM
First one to give him 3 years wins! Think the Astros have the best chance behind the brew crew of retaining his services.
Posted by: AstrosCoverage.blogspot.com | November 12, 2008 at 11:53 AM
Didn't the Yanks come off a season where they had a bunch of guys injured? I say no. Sheet always gets injured during the season, plus the Yanks haven't had much luck the pithcers coming form the NL.
Posted by: DominicanYanks | November 12, 2008 at 11:56 AM
"30 healthy Ben Sheets starts warrants 3 years in my opinion. "
I will be shocked if he gets 30 starts in more than one of those three years.
Posted by: melonis rex | November 12, 2008 at 11:57 AM
30 healthy starts, yes, but he was taken out of the last few important games due to another injury when the team needed him most. 2 years max is what he's worth to me.
Posted by: Bdlugz | November 12, 2008 at 11:57 AM
I think everyone is also forgetting about throwing Boston into this mix, I could definitely see them pursuing sheets to fill out a rotation of Beckett, Dice K, Lester, Sheets, Wakefield
Posted by: ARinDenver | November 12, 2008 at 11:58 AM
He will go to NYY or BOS, i also think it will depend on where CC goes. Dont think the Cubs will get him, UNLESS Dempster leave, and even then i dont see it.
Posted by: cubs land | November 12, 2008 at 12:01 PM
I think Houston has a good shot if he leaves Milwaukee. I would not bank on 30 healthy starts though.
Posted by: studio179 | November 12, 2008 at 12:02 PM
I think the Yankees have a good shot at him as well. Someone will give that 3rd year.
Posted by: studio179 | November 12, 2008 at 12:04 PM
if 2-3 years is all the market offers i'd favor the indians and mark shapiro. that is exactly the type of move he would make
Posted by: returner3 | November 12, 2008 at 12:15 PM
Let's wait and see what ZERose21 thinks before anointing Sheets a Yankee...
Posted by: DunkinDonuts | November 12, 2008 at 12:36 PM
Cubs land - Yea, can't see the Cubs getting in on this one either. Don't amagine they will be making a big splash in the FA market this off-season. Probably just go after a left fielder.
I wouldn't mind seeing Sheets in Blue, but I will be glad when he's in the AL.
Posted by: rufnut | November 12, 2008 at 12:38 PM
Sheets' contract requirements have Dodgers written all over them. Unlike Schmidt, however, I think Sheets will be worth the money.
Posted by: AA | November 12, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Some team will be smart and give him his 3 years. He was towards the top of the PAP list after limited innings 3 years in a row so it is really Yosts fault he hit the wall and had elbow problems.
He should have been babied some to get a full year worth of arm strength back instead of pushed an extra inning at every chance.
While he is 'injury prone' he has had 1 major injury in his career so he is a much safer injury prone than say Wood, Prior, Harden, Schmidt, Carpenter types.
Posted by: Ender | November 12, 2008 at 12:43 PM
If Kerry Wood can get 2 or 3 years, Sheets certainly should too.
Posted by: Aduncaroo | November 12, 2008 at 12:47 PM
Don't see Sheets overly excited (money aside) to jump to the AL.
Just my two cents but...
I think any team willing to take the risk on 3 years of Sheets staying healthy should consider the risk on Oliver Perez finding consistency instead.
Perez can be downright dirty when he is on his game and at 27, he is still capable of getting his arm under control with a little help.
In 3 years, can any of us really predict who is more likely to have been successful between Perez or Sheets?
Health v.s Control. Big dollars v.s medium size dollars.
Posted by: baxter4218 | November 12, 2008 at 12:56 PM
Sheets would be a perfect fit for the Dodgers. They have Bills, Kershaw and Kuroda. If they convince Maddux to sign, he'd fill the #5 spot. Then, they can use a combination of Sheets and Schmidt for the #4 spot in the rotation, depending on who is healthy at the time. And if both are injured, McDonald would be perfect.
The combination of these pitchers would be perfect. The Dodgers would have enough depth to get to the playoffs, and if they make the goal to have healthy pitchers for the playoffs, a rotation of Sheets, Bills, Kuroda and Kershaw would probably be the best assembled for the playoffs.
Posted by: DodgersBruin | November 12, 2008 at 01:09 PM
"Health v.s Control. Big dollars v.s medium size dollars."
Oliver Perez is looking for big dollars. If anything, Sheets would be cheaper because of his health issues. When Sheets pitches, he is head a shoulders above Perez. Perez may have flashes of brilliance, but also games where he gets shelled. I'd rather give money to Sheets, who I know will be dominant when he pitches and might get injured than throw any money at an inconsistent Perez. If you structure your team to compensate for an injured Sheets, like how Boston used to prepare for a July DL stint with Pedro, you're better off. Rather have the ace pitcher for the playoffs than have the erratic #3 all season.
Posted by: DodgersBruin | November 12, 2008 at 01:13 PM
"30 healthy Ben Sheets starts warrants 3 years in my opinion. "
the problem with that is if this elbow injury is serious then yes he will make 30 healthy starts but that will come across all 3 years! I am a diehard Astros fan, and after the first year of Andy Pettitte, the astros need to watch out for players like sheets who is having a similar injury to pettitte at the end of the '03 season. I see the astros coming in with a 2 year 30 million deal with a vesting option for a 3rd year based on number of innings pitched or games started...anyone agree or disagree?
Posted by: raider8284 | November 12, 2008 at 01:38 PM
"I see the astros coming in with a 2 year 30 million deal with a vesting option for a 3rd year based on number of innings pitched or games started...anyone agree or disagree?"
Astros don't have the money to sign Sheets. They had a $93 mil payroll last year. Oswalt, Berkman, Tejada, Lee, Matsui and Villarreal combine to make up $66.6 mil. They have to fill out 14 other spots with $27 mil just to keep the payroll the same as last year. They're more likely to sign Randy Wolf.
Posted by: DodgersBruin | November 12, 2008 at 01:46 PM
I believe he will end up signing with Houston. Too much ties him to Houston for there not to be a good chance that he signs with the 'Stros. If not Houston, I could see him returning to Milwaukee, especially since I don't think they will be able to resign C.C.
Posted by: JP | November 12, 2008 at 02:02 PM
"Health v.s Control. Big dollars v.s medium size dollars."
Agree with what someone else said...they will probably sign similar contracts, unless the Yanks just decide they want to blow Sheets away.
Sheets, when on, would be just fine in the NL. He pitched in the same division as Pujols, Berkman, Carlos and Derrek Lee, Aramis, Soriano, Tejada etc. When he is on, he is on, it doesn't matter.
I think Mil. would riot if he signed with the Cubs...but it won't happen anyway.
Posted by: Aduncaroo | November 12, 2008 at 02:07 PM
Dunn belongs on that list as well, along with Bay. Anyway, you get the point.
Posted by: Aduncaroo | November 12, 2008 at 02:08 PM
Sheets is a top talent, but he's hurt all the time. He has to be in the AL as he can not hit, isn't interested in it and hurt his forearm trying to hit in August. The Rangers seem a natural fit, though the Yanks if they don't get CC do too.
Posted by: The Beav | November 12, 2008 at 03:19 PM
"Sheets is a top talent, but he's hurt all the time."
He threw 198 innings this year. Had he taken a DL stint in August, he would have been fine for the post season. He doesn't need to be relegated to the AL. Treat him like Pedro while he was in Boston and watch him pitch you to victory in the playoffs.
Posted by: DodgersBruin | November 12, 2008 at 04:22 PM
"He has to be in the AL as he can not hit"
Who cares if he can't hit I could care less if he didn't take a swing all year long as long as he pitches well. Having he can't hit as a reason he will go to the AL is ridiculous.
Posted by: metsfan | November 12, 2008 at 05:53 PM
What exactly does "he would have been fine for the postseason" mean? He wasn't fine for the postseason and was unable to pitch in the postseason.
Posted by: nrmax88 | November 12, 2008 at 05:59 PM
"What exactly does "he would have been fine for the postseason" mean? He wasn't fine for the postseason and was unable to pitch in the postseason."
It means you give him a DL stint if he needs one during the regular season. Sheets and his agent both said that if he could have gone on the DL in August he would have been healthy for the post season. Instead, he pitched 2 CGs in 6 starts in August just so the Brewers could get to the post season. If the Brewers had been able to put Sheets on the DL for a few weeks, he would have been healthy and ready for the post season.
Posted by: DodgersBruin | November 12, 2008 at 08:04 PM
While I agree using the Pedro method of resting an ace so he can pitch in the post season is smart managing, you have to be sure you'll get there to have it make sense.
It seems some of us are forgetting that aside from CC and Dave Bush the Brewers' starters were pretty horrid down the stretch: Parra 1-4 in 10 starts in August and September with a 7.79 ERA in September; Suppan, though brilliant in August, was 0-3 in 5 September starts with a 8.44 ERA and never made it out of the 6th.
This season was arguably more important about making the playoffs than necessarily succeeding in them. After the 07 collapse and a near identical 08 collapse, they needed to do whatever it took to get to October, which meant pitching Sheets when he was dinged up in August and September. Especially with Yo not being healthy until the very end of September.
Granted, the results weren't fantastic, and who know what a CC and healthy Sheets led Brewers team could do in the playoffs. Remember also they weren't hitting, and Prince had ONE hit in the Phillies series.
Someone noted that Sheets has had only one big time injury throughout his career. While that's true, '08 was the first time he made more than 24 starts since 2004.
My personal feelings are that he's a China Doll and greatly overrated. The Crew would be better off without him, especially as his type A status will net them 2 high draft picks.
Fingers crossed that CC will fore go the big bucks to play in a city where he quickly achieved deity status for roughly 25 mil a season. Even if he doesn't, the Brewers and their fans might need to swallow hard, be glad they've gotten 4 high draft picks.
Then deal Prince while his value is probably at it's peak for a front of the rotation guy and go with whoever that may be, Yo, Bush, and (gulp) Suppan. Plus, if they don't sign CC or Sheets, they should have the cash to go after Derek Lowe, or at least Randy Wolf. Sheets' days in Milwaukee are hopefully over.
Posted by: smallmarket | November 13, 2008 at 12:24 PM
While I agree using the Pedro method of resting an ace so he can pitch in the post season is smart managing, you have to be sure you'll get there to have it make sense.
It seems some of us are forgetting that aside from CC and Dave Bush the Brewers' starters were pretty horrid down the stretch: Parra 1-4 in 10 starts in August and September with a 7.79 ERA in September; Suppan, though brilliant in August, was 0-3 in 5 September starts with a 8.44 ERA and never made it out of the 6th.
This season was arguably more important about making the playoffs than necessarily succeeding in them. After the 07 collapse and a near identical 08 collapse, they needed to do whatever it took to get to October, which meant pitching Sheets when he was dinged up in August and September. Especially with Yo not being healthy until the very end of September.
Granted, the results weren't fantastic, and who know what a CC and healthy Sheets led Brewers team could do in the playoffs. Remember also they weren't hitting, and Prince had ONE hit in the Phillies series.
Someone noted that Sheets has had only one big time injury throughout his career. While that's true, '08 was the first time he made more than 24 starts since 2004.
My personal feelings are that he's a China Doll and greatly overrated. The Crew would be better off without him, especially as his type A status will net them 2 high draft picks.
Fingers crossed that CC will fore go the big bucks to play in a city where he quickly achieved deity status for roughly 25 mil a season. Even if he doesn't, the Brewers and their fans might need to swallow hard, be glad they've gotten 4 high draft picks.
Then deal Prince while his value is probably at it's peak for a front of the rotation guy and go with whoever that may be, Yo, Bush, and (gulp) Suppan. Plus, if they don't sign CC or Sheets, they should have the cash to go after Derek Lowe, or at least Randy Wolf. Sheets' days in Milwaukee are hopefully over.
Posted by: smallmarket | November 13, 2008 at 12:25 PM
If sheets sticks to his off season workouts and his in between starts routine staying healthy and productive will go hand in hand , He is getting older and maybe he will start to get wiser as far as his Body is concerned as well , When Sheet's is dialed in there is no one better. Sheets is one of the few Pitcher's that is fun to watch Pitch , he work's with a speed on the Mound like he has somewhere to be , He is probably worth 3 years 40-50 million with maybe Bonuses for a certain # of starts I would also like to see a sheets illness clause thrown in when he come down with one of his many weird ailments as well.
Posted by: bum76 | November 24, 2008 at 01:29 PM