Yanks Make Offer To Sabathia

Haha...You know thats funny.

As far as NY fans go it's always:

Yanks/GIants/Knicks/Rangers

or

Mets/Nets/Jets/Islanders

1. I'm not a 2nd class fan...Mets are in NY just a subway trip away from the Bronx
2. At least we can agree on one team..Go Jets!

Yeah...Arod is only a 3 time MVP and perhaps will one day be the all-time home run leader. That 27 mil will pay for itself. Damon , despite his slack in defense is still a very productive player who's only making 13 mil, Matsui has had some good years and some injury filled ones but it's hardly been a bust and Pavano is what it is. But weren't we talking about pitchers though? I'm pretty sure that was the point we were on.

YanksFanSince78

See, he really thought I was a Jet fan. Like you said, Yanks/Giants/Rangers/Knicks in that order of preference.

You never know, could even be:
CC $25 mill/year
Wang
Burnett $16-$18 mill./year
Dempster $14-$16 mill./year
Lowe $15-$17 mill./year
Max $76 mill/year with $88 mill. available from last years salaries off the books.
With Marte's $4 mill., $25 mill. for Tex. and $24 mill. for Manny still only $41 million over last year and easily affordable with new revenue from stadium.
Why haven't they contacted Pettitte yet? Maybe they want to see what they can sign before showing loyalty to him?

two words....david wells.
two more words.....over weight
two more words.....no hitter
two more words.....champion ships

YAnks/Giants/Nets/Devils!
Can u tell im from Jersey?

These comments crack me up. This is better than any comedy on tv!

The Yankees are responsible for the downfall of the economy...WOW, just wow.

"Your business plan is bankrupt...just like your moral fortitude."

So by following the rules and signing players that other teams have the same opportunity to bid on means they have issues with morals?
Sure..after they sign all these guys they will celebrate by burning churches, raping women and killing babies.

"He had the HIGHEST batting average of ANY SS in the AL.

"Don't, just don't."

Are you arguing the stat? Cause that is FACT. It was in response to saying he had an average bat, my argument is that he has the highest BA of any SS in the AL. Compared to guys that play the same position, THAT isnt average.

And to the Met fan who listed the Yanks as a rival. You should know that the ONLY people who think the Mets and Yanks are rivals are Met fans. The Mets are not even a blip on Yankee fans radars. We don't care about the Mets unless we are playing them. The Yanks have one rival and one rival only..The Sox.

Yanksrule,

You are a dipshit. You just never learn. They're not going to sign a whole rotation.....and they're not going to get Manny and Tex. I think I've said it a million times the best way to win a title is by bringing up homegrown players.

"Manual would play him loafing with the dreads and laugh saying it's just Manny being Manny. With Yanks Manny would have to be Manny being Yankee first and foremost. The Yankees carry a class and dignity unlike any other in team sports. And simply put ALL other fans are jealous."

He should laugh, because baseball is supposed to fun...if he's hitting like he was with the Dodgers, then let him be Manny being Manny all he wants. The Yankees remind of the rich, arrogant kid at school that tries to buy his friends.

nym...

Please show me where I said Jeter was the best SS. All I said is that he had the highest avg of any SS in the AL, which makes him better than "average".

And YOU were the one who said the Yanks were a rival..not me!

1) The Yankees aren't signing Texiera. Thats why they got Swisher.
2) The Yankees are going to spend about 40 mill this year on free agents. 2 pitchers CC and Burnett/ Lowe.
3) So their rotation will probably be.
1.CC
2.Wang
3.Burnett/Lowe
4. Pettite
5. Chamberlin
Three of those guys are homegrown and wouldnt be surprised if Yankees only sign CC and have Hughes in the rotation.
4) The lineup is set, the Yankees arent going to do more.
1.Damon
2.Jeter
3.Nady
4.A-rod
5.Matsui
6.Posada
7.Swisher
8.Cano
9.Gardner/Melky

Out of that lineup 5 guys are homegrown.
5) Bullpen is stocked with homegrown Yankees
Mariano
Marte
Veras
Ramirez
Bruney
Albaladejo
Geise
Aceves

List goes on. 4 of the Yankees are homegrown, I wont even count Bruney and Albaladejo who the Yankees added into their farm and Marte that was drafted by them. Theres still Robertson, Rasner, Kennedt, and Melacon.

6) So enough of this buying champion bullshit. More than half their playera are homegrown. The difference? Yankees overpay for their homegrown talent to stay, thats why their payroll is so big.

Yankfan1:

Pettitte is a free agent too.

Arodmvp217

If there are more than 63 type A and B free agents then there is no limit on the number of free agents you can sign.
It goes: You can sign the number you lose unless there are more than 63. there are 69.

Kenan and Kel

Other than Arod what free agent did they offer alot of money too? Pavano, yes and Clemens too. Add Mussina as well. Homegrown Yankees=
Mariano=15 mil
Pettite=16 mil
Posada=14 mill
Jeter=20 mill

Thats 55 mill! For 4 players. They should be like 30 mill. They overpayed them extremely.
-Look I admit they have been TRYING to buy a champion, but they have never done so. Your saying the 1995-2000 Yankees bought their championship, i dont think so. They've never done it but they've tryed and will countinue to fail.

Ok I'm sorry you're right, they haven't bought championships they are just trying to.

Happy?

Kenan and Kel

Yes, very. I dont mind when people say they try, but that they do is ridiculous, in no sports can you do it, except basketball.

"Yes, very. I dont mind when people say they try, but that they do is ridiculous, in no sports can you do it, except basketball."

I don't see much of a difference but whatever floats your boat.

440 million in total contracts last off season, do you think they're gonna top that? Will we see 500 million spent this off season?

Does anyone know about how much money the Yankees have? Because i know the Steinbrenners use THEIR OWN money sometimes to improve the team. So im just wondering.

nym4life wrote:

Yanksrule,

You are a dipshit. You just never learn. They're not going to sign a whole rotation.....and they're not going to get Manny and Tex. I think I've said it a million times the best way to win a title is by bringing up homegrown players.

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Oh you mean like the Mets have with Delgado, Beltran, Santana, Wagner, Perez, P. Martinez, Castillo, Glavine and the other non-home grown players they have on their team?

Or did you mean that they are go avoid signing a FA closer this winter and go in-house with Heilman? Your such a freakin' hipocrite. I can almost tolerate frustrated small market fans but you clearly are jaded by the arse whoopin' we laid on you and Piazza in the subway series and the fact that your a 2nd rate team in NY right now who's choked the last week of the season for the last 2 years. I wasn't going to go there with you by attacking your team but now you're just being silly. The Mets have just about as much money at their disposal as the Yanks and they have no problem spreading it around.

Yankeesfan4life wrote:

Does anyone know about how much money the Yankees have? Because i know the Steinbrenners use THEIR OWN money sometimes to improve the team. So im just wondering.

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We all know this is a busness and all teams want to turn a profit but I GUARANTEE you that if winning WS title #27 meant the Yanks breaking even (stadium related income) or even being in the red a little the Steinbrenners wouldn't hesitate because winning means the most to them. I would say the same things about the owners of a few other teams as well but certainly not most.

Look people I know Yank fans can be guilty of having this "we can buy anyone we want" attitude, but why does it bother you? Be concerned over your own team. I can see the Yanks picking up:

CC
Burnett/Lowe/Perez
Tex if his price is realistic (6years/130)

with a very slim, outside shot at

Man-NY (only if they work out a "Swisher" type trade for Matsui).

If they added CC, a 2nd pitcher and Tex there payroll next year be about the same next year as it was this year.

$80 mil off replaced by $25 mil for CC, $15-17 mil for Burnett/Perez/Lowe and another $22-$24 mil for Tex plus another $5 mil for Swish. That's a total of $71 million. Assuming they pick up another utility/bench player their payroll would be the same as it was next year.

Thinking ahead with a rotation of:

CC
Burnett/Perez/Lowe
Wang
Joba
Hughes (they have to let him play)

The Yanks rotation could be set for the next 3 years provided everyone stays healthy and Joba and Hughes stay healthy and are not "busts".

I can't see the Yanks paying $10-$15 mill for a 4th or 5th guy when you have in-house solutions.

The bullpen is very strong:

Rivera
Bruney
Ramirez
Marte
Coke
Veras/Sanchez/Melcanon/Brittan/Griese

What's also great about our situation from an economic stand point is that we have flexibility now. Next year (winter 09) we're probably going to let Damon and Matsui walk. Nady I think will be resigned depending on what kind of year he has in 09. That means that if Tex is signed this year then in 09 we go into winter 09 with our team set with options as follows:

1B- TEX
2B- CANO
SS- JETER
3B- AROD
C- POSADA
LF-SWISHER
CF- MELKY/GARDNER/JACKSON
RF- NADY
DH- ??????

Winter 09 needs: A power bat at DH (Vlad, Maglio, Delgado, Bay, Holliday, Huff or Dye). Or we can move Jeter to DH (not the power you would want from a DH but it might improve IF defense) and sign a SS (Khalil Green, Bobby Corsby). If Melky, Gardner or Ajax aren't viable at CF then Coco Crisp and Ankiel will be available. If Posada is weak at C then we can move him to DH permanetly and try and sign a C (Bengie Molina, Victor Martinez).

If we don't sign Tex this year then in 09 we go with:

1B-SWISHER
2B-CANO
SS-JETER
3B-AROD
C-POSADA
LF-DAMON
CF- MELKY/GARDNER
RF-NADY
DH-MATSUI

In winter 09 we let Damon and Matsui walk and can either go after a 1B (Adam LaRoche) and move Swisher to LF or go after a corner OF (Holliday, Bay, etc).

I really dig what Cash is doing. All of his moves, it seems, are being done thinking in terms of the next 2 years and if we can sign CC and Burnett/Perez or (uggh) Lowe we shouldn't have to worry about pitching in winter of 09 which is pretty thin as it is:

Josh Beckett - $12MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Erik Bedard
Justin Duchscherer
Rich Harden
Tim Hudson - $12MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout
John Lackey
Cliff Lee - $8MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Brett Myers
Brandon Webb - $8.5MM club option with a $500K+ buyout
Todd Wellemeyer