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TUESDAY, 9:02am: ESPN's Buster Olney says the Dodgers and Mets "have kept the porch light on" in case some version of a Jones-Castillo swap can be made. He talked to a source who believes the Mets' chances of trading Castillo before the season are 50-50.
MONDAY, 8:12pm: MLB.com's Marty Noble heard from a person familiar with the discussions between the Mets and Dodgers that "nothing is ongoing and nothing is going to happen." The clubs had preliminary discussions about trading Jones for Castillo during the Winter Meetings, but nothing is in the works now.
3:50pm: According to ESPN's Buster Olney, the Dodgers and Mets have discussed an Andruw Jones trade. Jones is still owed $22.1MM, and the Dodgers are "highly motivated" to move him. Olney says it's unlikely the Dodgers would have interest in Luis Castillo, however. If the Mets wouldn't be sending a bad contract back, I'd imagine they'd want the Dodgers to pay approximately $20MM. Olney says the Mets would use Jones in right field - Ryan Church's position this year.
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Posted by: johnnydollaz89 | December 29, 2008 at 05:31 PM
Good Point,
Man that guy could sure play a mean centerfield at one time.
Posted by: Cyyoung | December 29, 2008 at 05:33 PM
bad management strikes again
Posted by: marlinsman1120 | December 29, 2008 at 05:47 PM
I pray it is so!
Posted by: MikeClarke | December 29, 2008 at 05:53 PM
Bedard's arm near detached from his body last year and the Dodgers are going to cough up Loney and Hu for him?
I think not!
Posted by: MikeClarke | December 29, 2008 at 05:55 PM
I read somewhere (probably here) that Andruw had lost a bunch of weight and is working out hard to not have a repeat of last season. He knows he was overweight and out of shape and it sounds like he is taking steps to correct that.
I only mention this because I am a long time fan of Andruw and as a Royals fan, I'd be happy for swapping Jones for Guillen, but I don't think that helps the Dodgers to get where they want to go. I think he is going to have a comeback year.
Posted by: IamWeasel | December 29, 2008 at 05:55 PM
The Dodger contract with Andruw is for $18 mil? So, the deal makes sense for the Mets if the Dodgers send Blimpy along with a suitcase full of $20 mil. Then, they can put roller skates on him and make him their batboy. It might put a couple extra fans in the seats, plus they could sell some size XXXL Blimpy jerseys.
Not a great baseball deal, but a shrewd marketing move.
Posted by: paxterj | December 29, 2008 at 05:56 PM
How about the Mets pay Jones contract based on his performance. If Jones hits .189 again....The Dodgers should pay virtually all of it. If Jones hits 25 HR's and bats .250....the Dodgers should pay 6-8 million of it. It Jones returns to his 2006 form....The Dodgers should pay nothing. I don't see how that isn't a win win situation for either team. If Jones is horrible again the Dodgers would be eating the contract either way doesn't matter if he is on the Dodgers or the Mets. If he has a decent year, The dodgers atleast get some financial help with his contract. I really don't see where the Dodgers are going to play him with Ethier and Kemp already in the OF and talks of signing Dunn, Abreu, or Manny.
Posted by: yanks09 | December 29, 2008 at 06:08 PM
I'll believe this when I see it. Earlier this season Omar was supposed to be considering trading for Juan Pierre, which possibly makes even less sense than trading for Andruw. Sorry Dodger fans, Omar is not bailing you out from those heinous contracts. Luis Castillo's contract is bad, but it's not Andruw Jones-Juan Pierre level bad.
Posted by: JK47 | December 29, 2008 at 06:26 PM
does anybody realize how well jones always did. he always put up great numbers but did strikeout a lot. he is only remembered for last year now. i would want him and put him in outfield along with church and beltran and trade castillo and put Murphy who originally played 3rd not outfield on second.
Posted by: therman | December 29, 2008 at 06:33 PM
therman,
Actually, Andruw's decline started in May 2007. He may be in better shape in 2009, which should take some pressure off his knees and his back, but offensively, he's now Dave Kingman. Swing hard at everything and hope to make contact.
Posted by: ink-stained scribe | December 29, 2008 at 06:50 PM
I don't see how this makes sense from the Dodgers' perspective if they're going to eat almost the entire contract. What, they're going to spend $14M on Jones and then sign Adam Dunn for another $12M, thus spending $26M to fill left field? Plus they've still got Juan Pierre on the books.
Whatever, it's their money. As much as I can't stand Andruw Jones, if Minaya can get him for a $1M salary and a minor-league no-name, then I don't see the downside. Let him come to camp and try to win a spot and hope he surprises you.
Posted by: JK47 | December 29, 2008 at 07:04 PM
I have a feeling that the only thing that jones needed was to be traded and he would do good but I hope it turns out bad for the mets
Posted by: alex | December 29, 2008 at 07:15 PM
"Oh, and even in his dismal 2008, he played above average defense (albeit small sample sizes are in play here)."
I think the plus/minus guys fell asleep at the wheel there. He couldn't throw and made hardly any good defensive plays.
"but offensively, he's now Dave Kingman. Swing hard at everything and hope to make contact."
At least Kingman could actually knock the piss out of the ball. Jones only hit 3 homers all year.
Posted by: AA | December 29, 2008 at 07:25 PM
Wow, metsobsessed is an idiot.
Also, hahaha please take him.
Posted by: NedCollettiClueless | December 29, 2008 at 07:28 PM
"Julio Lugo for Andrew Jones still makes a ton of sense to me.
Posted by: Kramerica Industries | December 29, 2008 at 04:16 PM "
Apparently you lack a fundamental understanding of the word sense.
Andruw Jones has a negative WARP.
Posted by: ArodSucksAtLife | December 29, 2008 at 07:33 PM
metsobsessed is an idiot... not only because of his name but also because of his opinions.
Posted by: dusto | December 29, 2008 at 07:46 PM
http://hotstove.mlblogs.com/archives/2008/12/mets_interested_in_andruw_jone.html
Marty Noble shoots this one down.
Posted by: AdropOFvenom | December 29, 2008 at 07:46 PM
Spelling AndrEw Jones like that makes you an idiot... And Andruw is an idiot because he spells his name that way... this has gotten waaay off topic!
Dodgers should trade Jones for nothing but salary relief.
Posted by: dusto | December 29, 2008 at 07:47 PM
You think THAT'S off topic?!
THIS is off topic: Frank McCourt and his wife should wear a donkey suit and throw out the first pitch before every home game this year, to the accompaniment of circus clown music.
Posted by: paxterj | December 29, 2008 at 08:21 PM
as a braves fan, it was tough to see andruw go thru this. He was once a star player and became this, i really feel bad for the guy.
Mets fans, you really have no reason to hate since he drilled you guys for much of the past decade.
Posted by: ballplaya | December 29, 2008 at 08:32 PM
"Apparently you lack a fundamental understanding of the word sense.
Andruw Jones has a negative WARP."
And in '07 he had a WAR of 3.6...in '06 he had a WAR of 6.6...'08 was pretty much the first time he hasn't been worth his salary.
Posted by: iamnobody | December 29, 2008 at 08:35 PM
Definitely do not see this making sense for the Mets.
Now if he is in shape, I could see a deal with the Yankees, where they move Matsui for Jones and the Dodgers make up the difference in dollars.
Basically, the Dodgers would get the corner OF bat they need and the Yanks the CF they need.
Posted by: NJYankeeFan | December 29, 2008 at 08:43 PM
If the Mets were to acquire Jones, then Mets ownership is just downright stupid.
They're not willing to pay big money for Manny who is one of, if not the best hitter in the league, but big money for a garbage player in Jones. It makes no sense.
Posted by: nymforlife | December 29, 2008 at 08:56 PM
i agree with nymforlife. if the dodgers eat 20mil (which i highly doubt they will) for a straight up trade with castillo(another unlikely part of the deal), then your paying 2mil for jones which could potentially clear up room for either two starters or one starter and hudson or one starter and manny....
Posted by: clos79 | December 29, 2008 at 09:01 PM
then you can just use jones to give sometime off the outfielders and a possible DH at AL games
Posted by: clos79 | December 29, 2008 at 09:02 PM
"If the Mets were to acquire Jones, then Mets ownership is just downright stupid.
They're not willing to pay big money for Manny who is one of, if not the best hitter in the league, but big money for a garbage player in Jones. It makes no sense."
You seem to be missing the blindingly obvious point that they would not be paying anything that could be mistaken for big bucks for Andruw Jones.
Posted by: nrmax88 | December 29, 2008 at 09:03 PM
Nice breaking news on old rumors Buster Olney.
Posted by: studio179 | December 29, 2008 at 09:03 PM
The only way I'd do the deal is if the Dodgers take Castillo and his contract, and they pay Jones's contract. Otherwise, no deal.
Posted by: nymforlife | December 29, 2008 at 09:21 PM
I wonder if any Jack Wilson for Andruw Jones conversations ever came up before the Dodgers signed Furcal. The Pirates need a right handed bat in the outfield if they can't get Baldelli......
Erik
http://countingbaseballs.mlblogs.com
Posted by: Erik | December 29, 2008 at 10:31 PM
The deal would allow the Mets to trade for Hudson. Jones is in a walk year, so he might be motivated, plus I heard he claims to be healthy and to have lost weight. It's a swap of bad contracts and I think the Mets would be better off, so Omar should make the move.
Posted by: Chris Sullivan | December 29, 2008 at 10:36 PM
"The only way I'd do the deal is if the Dodgers take Castillo and his contract, and they pay Jones's contract. Otherwise, no deal."
So the Mets fans would expect the Dodgers to pay $20M for Andruw Jones PLUS $18M for Castillo? Why would the Dodgers take on $18M extra? If this happened it would be Jones for Castillo. Salary exchange. That's all. You Mets fans are seriously dumb if you think the Dodgers would just pay an extra $18M to get Jones off the roster.
Posted by: DodgersBruin | December 29, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Buster Olney was wrong? Get out of here...
Posted by: eric23 | December 29, 2008 at 10:52 PM
I hate people who talk like that makes all mets fan look like edoits please know thier are smart mets fan out thier
Posted by: nymets44 | December 29, 2008 at 11:08 PM
Why would anyone want Andruw Jones hes not good anymore the only reason he is still in the majors is because of his name.
Posted by: SFgiants55 | December 29, 2008 at 11:20 PM
"I hate people who talk like that makes all mets fan look like edoits please know thier are smart mets fan out thier"
Haha. You might want to use spell check and proper grammar when talking about being smart. At least to bolster your argument...
Posted by: DodgersBruin | December 29, 2008 at 11:38 PM
Jones has broken down so much...
How about Jones to the Yanks for Igawa? LOL! Thats about the only way I'd take him off their hands.
Posted by: gianthinker | December 30, 2008 at 12:30 AM
Thank god this rumor got shot down. Doyers are going to have to eat the $ either way! hahaha.
Posted by: GiantsOverDoyersIn09 | December 30, 2008 at 12:44 AM
"I hate people who talk like that makes all mets fan look like edoits please know thier are smart mets fan out thier"
Maybe you shouldn't be the group spokesperson. You aren't helping matters.
Posted by: nrmax88 | December 30, 2008 at 02:08 AM
Thanks for the scoop ESPN!
Posted by: Prismo | December 30, 2008 at 03:32 AM
Dear Omar,
Thanks for reading and listening to the advice in my previous post.
You DID drop the phone!
Love ya!
Hugs,
Desiree'
Posted by: Desiree' | December 30, 2008 at 06:16 AM
Andruw Jones, don't you have any self-respect, man? You are awful and need to just go away. I know he got fat, but that alone can't explain how he went downhill so quickly. I've never seen a player that great turn to mush so fast.
Posted by: rememberthecoop | December 30, 2008 at 09:14 AM
When I watch a Dodgers game, it looks as if Albert Haynesworth is playing centerfield for them.
Posted by: Joba The Fat Sloba | December 30, 2008 at 09:16 AM
Uh oh, Olney's at it again! Trying to cover his tracks with a general statement.
Posted by: Prismo | December 30, 2008 at 09:18 AM
I'd like to see the Dodgers trade Pierre to Toronto for bullpen help like Scott Downs. Then Jays deal Rios to S.F. for Matt Cain. Toronto needs a leadoff hitter like Pierre and Cain is a nice replacement for Burnett.
Posted by: Jim T | December 30, 2008 at 10:02 AM
Jim - we Dodgers fans would love to see a Pierre - Downs deal as well. Get J.P. (ah..J.P. Ricciardi...Juan Pierre...symmetry!) on the horn.
Posted by: vtadave | December 30, 2008 at 10:23 AM
Assuming the rumors of the Yanks going after Man-NY are true, and I for one am not convinced, would the Dodgers be willing to make the following trade?
Andru Jones, Ivan DeJesus and Xavier Paul/Delwyn Young
for
Xavier Nady and Kei Igawa
Dodgers Perspective:
-A bad contract for bad contract deal (JOnes vs Igawa). Jones's, with salars and signing bonuses due in 09 and '10, is owed another $22 mil. Igawa is owed 3/12- Dodgers rid themselves of Jones and come out $10 mil saved over the long haul, and $18 mil saved from 09 to put towards a front line pitcher.
-Nady can play LF and RF, and can give you a solid bat in the line-up. He'll never be confused as Man-NY but can be productive for 1 year before becoming a FA.
-Igawa is a 29 yr olf lefty, who performed well in AAA (14-6, 3.45 in 156 inn, 117 strikeouts /45 walks). AAA isn't mlb, but away from the bright lights of NY and the AL East, he can be a serviceable 5th starter. And hey the Dodgers are getting rid of Andru Jones right?
-Rafael Furcal now blocks the promotion of DeJesus for the next few years. Even if he goes down with injuries, the DOdgers still have other options at SS (Chin-Lung Hu).
Yankees Perspective:
-Ivan DeJesus can graduate to a possible replacement for Jeter at SS.
-Xavier Paul or Delwyn Young are both decent young players who, IMO, don't figure big into the Dodgers future plans. Gives the Yanks another option to put into the mix for our 2010 OF plans.
-Andru Jones..........we get rid of Igawa and who knows, maybe a motivated Jones has a solid year. If not, he becomes the worlds most expensive AAA player.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | December 30, 2008 at 10:53 AM
Why would the Mets want Jones? Jones career is passe - probably should DH as his career dwindles down
Posted by: TripleHHH | December 30, 2008 at 11:08 AM
I would love to know who they seem to think is interested enough in Castillo to make a 50/50 chance of him being dumped.....and what it would take to facilitate a trade.
Posted by: AdropOFvenom | December 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM
"Nady can play LF and RF, and can give you a solid bat in the line-up. He'll never be confused as Man-NY but can be productive for 1 year before becoming a FA."
Unless you think that a league average bat is the same as a solid bat, you're wrong. Nady isn't that good. For his career he is a league average hitter. Yankee fans need to stop the myth that Nady is anything else. He was league average before 2008. He was league average once traded to the Yankees. He had a very good 89 games with the Pirates in 2008. That's it.
Posted by: DodgersBruin | December 30, 2008 at 12:28 PM
Remember when Andruw Jones hit 51 homeruns in 2006?
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I'm molesting oxes nowwwwwwwwww!
Posted by: Michael Kei | December 30, 2008 at 12:55 PM
I, in no way, want to make Nady out to be a perennial all-star or anything, but I can't stand it when people regurgitate stuff other people say w/o really understanding what that means. His combined numbers were better than league avg for the year:
Bavg +.039
Obp +.022
Ops +.111
Abberation? Most likely. He probably is closer to a .280/.335 hitter than a .305/.357 hitter. However, while his avg and obp dropped when he went to the Yanks (which is actually backwards if you think about), his power production improved when he switched to the AL.
08 NL- 13 hrs = 1 every 25 at bats
08 AL- 12 hrs = 1 every 19 at bats
His total production over the course of the year:
.305/.357 25 hrs and 97 rbis (while in your opinion "league avg") would rank him:
Tied 1st with Either @ .305
3rd behind Martin and Either in obp @ .357
1st in hrs w/ 25
All that for $5 to $7 mil a year.
And what are you giving up for him? Andru Jones and two prospects (DeJesus and Xavier Paul/Delwyn Young) who don't figure in your plans anyway.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | December 30, 2008 at 01:21 PM
You're right, the Yanks don't need Jones, but they don't need Igawa for 3/12 either. And the deal would only be done if Man-NY were coming to NY. Just figured the only way the Yanks would get DeJesus was if he were attached to Jones whom they are desperate to get rid of. If he has a great spring training then you go with Man-NY @ DH, Damon in LF, Jones in CF and Swisher in RF and you would still have to move Matsui anyway (seeing as how rumors swirled they wanted to move 2 OF's). You keep either Cabrera or Gardner and demote the other. The money would still be the same regardless of how Jones fared (Jones 18 = Nady's 5-7 mil and Igawas $12 mil). No big deal. Just throwing it out there.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | December 30, 2008 at 02:20 PM
The Dodgers will take Igawa for Jones =D I wouldn't mind having a pitcher that could only get better in the NL West for a player that is expendable to us =D
Posted by: MrBlake14 | December 30, 2008 at 04:34 PM
A Castillo-for-Jones swap makes a lot of sense for both teams. If I understand correctly, gets paid $15M salary next year + $7.1M in bonus money over the next two years. Castillo gets $6M per year for the next three years. If the Dodgers remain responsible for the bonus money, the trade basically is like a loan for them - they'll pay $6M per year for the next 3 years, while the Mets will pay $15M next year and be done with it.
The players are pretty much incidental, with both teams figuring they have a better chance to get some shred of value out of the guy they get in the deal. Andruw has way more upside, but also a much lower chance of realizing that value than Castillo has of rebounding from an injury-filled '08.
Posted by: ColonelTom | December 30, 2008 at 06:14 PM
That second sentence should have read "Jones gets paid $15M..."
Posted by: ColonelTom | December 30, 2008 at 06:15 PM
Going to the Mets would be the best thing Andruw has done for the Braves in years.
Posted by: Mr_Unperfect | December 30, 2008 at 10:58 PM