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The AP passes along a message from Scott Boras' office: Greg Maddux will announce his retirement Monday at the Winter Meetings. 5008.1 innings, 3.16 ERA, 355 wins.
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Hall Of Fame much.
Posted by: astralpanda | December 05, 2008 at 03:45 PM
One hell of a ride and one hell of a career, Professor. First ballot HOF.
Posted by: InvalidUserID | December 05, 2008 at 03:45 PM
That's one heck of a career. Congratulations Mr. Maddux.
Posted by: AFROTC Cadet | December 05, 2008 at 03:47 PM
Hall of Fame, 1st ballot, Braves uniform. Its a done deal.
But as a Padres fan, I am happy they were able to get two arms for him, hell of a deal. But the Professor will be remember as one of the greatest pitchers of all time.
Posted by: AirmanSD | December 05, 2008 at 03:47 PM
One amazing career.
Five more years till the Professor is inducted into the HOF, first ballot.
Posted by: melonis rex | December 05, 2008 at 03:47 PM
Maddux- As much as i disliked the fact that you dominated the Giants everytime you were facing us, you also dominated everyone ese. One helluva career and a lock for the HOF.
Posted by: lincecum4cy | December 05, 2008 at 03:48 PM
Great career for Maddux, first ballot Hall of Famer.
Posted by: Cardsfan387 | December 05, 2008 at 03:49 PM
As Skip Caray said one night, "He's the best folks."
Yes he is. Thank you for the memories Mr Maddux, huge Braves fan for many years.
Posted by: geauxbraves | December 05, 2008 at 03:52 PM
also - 18 Gold Gloves and 180 sacrifices (3rd all time). Great bunting technique (getting way forward in the box to minimize the possibility of a foul). More pitchers should use it.
Maddux is the reason why I am a Rockies fan today. When he left the Cubs in 1992, I also left the Cubs. (Yeah, I agree that it's strange that I didn't follow him to the Braves).
Posted by: kosmo @ www.ObservingCasually.com | December 05, 2008 at 03:52 PM
He was good at baseball.
Posted by: Stu | December 05, 2008 at 03:52 PM
Good for Greg - One of the best the game will ever see.
Posted by: Banks1954 | December 05, 2008 at 03:53 PM
I was luck enough to see him pitch live a number of times. I knew this was gonna happen, but it still makes me really sad. He'll always be a Cub to me.
Posted by: jneely77 | December 05, 2008 at 03:53 PM
maddux setting all time vote percentage record?
Posted by: cubs |
December 05, 2008 at 03:54 PM
This guy makes me remember the "dark days" when the Braves had him/Smoltz/Glavine. The rest of the NL East never had a chance. Congrats to him and if he's not unanimous 1st ballot HOF'er there should be an inquisition.
Posted by: philsWSchamps | December 05, 2008 at 03:56 PM
He deserved more rings than he got... HOF '14
Posted by: MVPujols | December 05, 2008 at 03:56 PM
my favorite all-time cub besides andre dawson, i'm gonna say he becomes the first ever unanimous HOF'er. whoever votes against that man should be taken out and shot...
Posted by: 100backeduptrucks | December 05, 2008 at 03:57 PM
"Hall of Fame, 1st ballot, Braves uniform. Its a done deal."
$tupid F@#* cheap a$$ tribune and company...
Greg.. go to Texas work with your brother and develop those young arms!
Congratulations on a great career with no * by your stats. You will be missed.
Posted by: Bleacher_Buddha | December 05, 2008 at 04:00 PM
My Favorite pitcher of all time. Great career Maddux. 1st ballot HOF'er for sure.
Posted by: Spieg7 | December 05, 2008 at 04:00 PM
You said it; one of the All Time best...and a great guy to boot. Just a perfect ambassador for the game of baseball. Chicks may dig the long-ball, Professor, but in an era stained by steroid sluggers, you did it right. Anyone can dig that...and history will remember you long after those hulking cheats have exhausted their eligibility to join you in the Hall. Thanks for the memories.
Posted by: milehigh78 | December 05, 2008 at 04:00 PM
He could be the first unanimous inductee.
Posted by: Mr. Exceptional | December 05, 2008 at 04:02 PM
Maddux was simply amazing. He never got his fastball much about 92, even in his best years, but would absolutely dominate a game. Complete games under 90 pitches (perhaps even under 80) were his thing. Truly an amazing pitcher and an example of why scouts and MLB management really need to look outside the box when looking for talent.
"i'm gonna say he becomes the first ever unanimous HOF'er. whoever votes against that man should be taken out and shot.."
The scary thing is that there are guys who didn't vote for the likes of Willie Mays and Hank Aaron.
Posted by: AA | December 05, 2008 at 04:06 PM
3.16 CAREER ERA. How sick is that in the steroid era.
Is he top 5 pitcher of ALL TIME? Could be.
Posted by: philsWSchamps | December 05, 2008 at 04:09 PM
Maddux setting all time vote percentage record?
I defenitly see that happening. I've fallowed his career despite what team he was on.18 gold gloves I would be surprised if any one tops that, most players careers don't last that long.
Posted by: wisbrave | December 05, 2008 at 04:09 PM
the guys that didnt vote for mays ripken etc felt that if ruth wasnt unanimous no one should be.
that said. thanks for the ride greg. we ll miss ya. baseball lost two of the best this offseason. maddux and mussina.
Posted by: roguesaw | December 05, 2008 at 04:11 PM
I hate stupid self imposed HOF rules. Who cares if Babe Ruth didn't get in with a 100% ballot. Why does the stupidity of voters 50+ years ago have to affect your voting today. Why do some writers feel that some hall of famers ARE hall of famers, but they're just not 1st Ballot hall of famers. Whisky Tango Foxtrot does that mean?
My suggestion...cases like these, where a guy, unless he murders someone from now until 2014, should be a 100% no doubt about it HOF member should be a litmus test for voters. Any voter who doesn't put him on their ballot for whatever reason loses their voting privileges. I don't care if you forgot, or figured everyone else would so he'd have enough, or you just ran out of ink in your pen. Don't vote for him, and you're done.
Posted by: CubFan81 | December 05, 2008 at 04:21 PM
"3.16 CAREER ERA. How sick is that in the steroid era."
And remember that he never threw in the high 90's either. I believe he had the best Circle Change in the Majors.
Best wishes Professor. You truly were one of the best of all time.
Posted by: bamabosoxfan | December 05, 2008 at 04:22 PM
greatest pitcher i will ever see. i say this with confidence, even though im only 24.
Posted by: charliescrabbles | December 05, 2008 at 04:30 PM
No one will ever be a unanimous HOF selection the way the voting process is condicted currently.
When Arod and Pujols retire with 800 homers apiece, there will always be someone that will ding them for playing in the steroid era and assume their numbers are tainted.
Maddux will get less than 100% because some writers think that since Player X (Ruth, Cobb, Mantle...pick a name) got less than 100%, why should a guy like Maddux?
Dumb, I know.
Posted by: vtadave | December 05, 2008 at 04:31 PM
HAHA, forgot all about "Chicks Dig The Long Ball".
Youtube = qLECMCargd8
Posted by: InvalidUserID | December 05, 2008 at 04:40 PM
"Is he top 5 pitcher of ALL TIME? Could be." could be?
anyone not voting for him should not only be banned from voting forever, but also baseball circles forever.
Posted by: Yu Hsing Chen | December 05, 2008 at 04:41 PM
This board is a small sample of baseball fans. I see posters of fans from various teams above. Yet every post is positive about Greg Maddux and what he has meant to the game. Not just the Cubs, Braves, Dodger or Padre fans. It is rare in baseball to see a guy get what will be a very high first ballot and respected by so many fans who love the game. There are Hall Of Fame players, then there are Hall Of Fame Players who are respected even more. That group is small. An example is another pitcher who will be a HOF player, but not respected so much. I'll leave the name out because when it comes to class, this person does not belong in a Greg Maddux post or on his thread. We can tell our kids and grandkids someday we watched one of the best there ever was in terms of ability and humbleness. There just is not many like him who ever played.
Posted by: studio179 | December 05, 2008 at 04:41 PM
What else can be said? One of the top 5 greatest pitchers ever, and the best I'll see in my lifetime.
I saw a game he pitched for the Braves back in '96 or so. He threw a complete game 1-hit (infield single) shutout, struck out 12, and threw 72 pitches. Not one ball left the infield. Who can argue with that kind of dominance?
Posted by: FineHamAbounds | December 05, 2008 at 04:49 PM
I really dig Maddux. I remember opening up my first pack of Donruss 1987 baseball cards and getting his "rated rookie" card. He and Mussina are the epitome of an intelligent pitcher. I think he and Moose would make great pitching coaches.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | December 05, 2008 at 04:51 PM
Maddux has my favorite 2 seamer, that starts right at a lefties rib cage, then comes back over the plate for a strike. The crazy part is...he still has it, and probably could throw it until he was 60.
I have probably seen him pitch in person as much or more than I have seen any other pitcher...and he always impressed. Can't wait to hear the humble hall of fame entry speech.
Posted by: Aduncaroo | December 05, 2008 at 04:55 PM
One of the greatest EVER. Look at his numbers in the mid '90s...and the hitters he faced...wow...
I never got to see him pitch in person...I will always regret this.
Posted by: B3NG4L | December 05, 2008 at 04:56 PM
Congrats to one of the best, and smartest, pitchers I ever saw, on a fantastic career. He will be missed. I bet he ends up a pitching coach or roving pitching instructor.
Posted by: Craig Phillips | December 05, 2008 at 04:57 PM
Great career Mad Dog. Instant HOF... shot at first ever unanimous selection.
"Is he top 5 pitcher of ALL TIME?"
Eh, now we're getting into a very rough territory. Definitely one of the best in this era, but baseball changes enough every era it's difficult to compare players. Even when we do it just can go nuts.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | December 05, 2008 at 04:58 PM
He was class, but he was also a riot. Everyone in the clubhouse would rave about how funny Maddux actually was...and outside of the game he loved the practical jokes.
I remember one game where he thought he was being squeezed by the ump. He didn't stare him down, didn't throw a temper tantrum, and got out of the inning. But after the inning was over, he went over to the ump and said, "I know I'm bad, I'm such a bad pitcher that I can't seem to get five strikes a batter!" The ump got a laugh out of that, and Maddux made his point. Quintessential Maddux.
Posted by: soupdujour | December 05, 2008 at 04:58 PM
After Randy Johnson I can't even imagine ther ever being another 300 game winner much less a 355 game winner.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | December 05, 2008 at 05:00 PM
"He was good at baseball."
HAHA.
Posted by: AtlantaBred | December 05, 2008 at 05:03 PM
maddux is a hall of famer regardless, but i wonder if he pitched in d al his whole career, and moose pitched in d nl, who would have the better stats, again no disrespect to maddux, its just a hypothetical.
Posted by: jpg1200 | December 05, 2008 at 05:18 PM
Considering the NL was better than the AL for the bulk of Maddux's career, I'd say... Maddux.
Posted by: AtlantaBred | December 05, 2008 at 05:38 PM
jpg-that would be precisely the sort of thing a writer would say to not vote for him the first time around.
something tells me he wants no part of being a pitching coach. he's such a quiet guy, i could see him retiring quietly, playing golf til kingdom come and not really being heard from again. which would be sad because he has so much to teach people. i just think he has had enough of baseball, at least for now...
Posted by: 100backeduptrucks | December 05, 2008 at 05:40 PM
FineHamAbounds - I was at that game too! The year before I saw Tom Glavine throw a 2 hit shutout, and the Braves won 1-0 on GLAVINE'S opposite field homer! I feel very lucky to have been present at games like that.
Posted by: paulyicecubes | December 05, 2008 at 05:42 PM
Career ERA+:
Maddux - 132
Mussina - 123
Close, but all in all, Maddux was the better pitcher regardless of league. Maddux also had nine seasons (check out 1994-95) of a > 150 ERA+, Mussina two.
Posted by: vtadave | December 05, 2008 at 05:49 PM
Walter Johnson
Christy Mathewson
Warren Spahn
Sandy Koufax
Bob Gibson
Tom Seaver
Greg Maddux
My best pitchers list. I can't break it down more past these seven. If you forced me to, I'd put a 1 and 2 next to Big Train and Mathewson, but after that, I could put the Professor anywhere from 3 to 7 and be comfortable with that choice.
Notably, I don't think Maddux' forever-contemporary, Fat Rajah, would even make my top 15.
Posted by: Johnny Rotten | December 05, 2008 at 07:01 PM
VERY sad to see this happening, but wow a GREAT career!! One of my favorite pitchers of all-time. HOF here he comes. One question, what jersey will he be going into the hall in? Cubs, Braves? Could he sign a one day contract just so he can wear that jersey in the hall?
Posted by: cubs land | December 05, 2008 at 07:39 PM
Certainly one of the smartest pitchers in the game. Im sad to hear he is retiring because with his mind he could pitch effectivrly into his 50s. Ill miss him pitching and I miss seeing him in a Braves uni. What a Career... thank You for the memories. Certainly one of my favorite players of all times.
Posted by: zephyr8 | December 05, 2008 at 07:56 PM
I remember the day maddux left the Braves. It was the first time i felt sad over such a thing.
Posted by: zephyr8 | December 05, 2008 at 07:58 PM
If he doesnt get 100% of the vote, some voting privileges should be stripped.
Posted by: bravesfan22193 | December 05, 2008 at 08:33 PM
and for the guy that said maddux and mussina should be compared, you should not be posting on a baseball site if thats what u truly believe. Maddux redefined pitching with his precision, fielding, and knowledge of the game. Mussina though highly effective and a very good pitcher is a borderline Hall of Famer. and the AL dominance is a rather new thing before it was the yankees against who ever could manage to come out on top in the NL
Posted by: bravesfan22193 | December 05, 2008 at 08:38 PM
maddux setting all time vote percentage record?
no doubt, best pitcher in my era, even though im only a teenager:)
Posted by: lakersdodgersyankees4life | December 05, 2008 at 08:56 PM
I created an account just to comment on this.
The Mad Dog may be the craftiest pitcher...ever. I once watched him pitch an 87 pitch complete game 2 hitter. It honestly looked like he was simply toying with major league hitters. Greg, you will be missed. You made me proud to be a Braves fan!
Posted by: ATLandUNC | December 05, 2008 at 09:30 PM
I don't comment much on here but like ATLandUNC i couldn't just let this one go by without a comment. The Professor will def be missed by the Dodgers and all Dodger fans. I always had the utmost respect for Maddux even when he wasn't on the Dodgers. It's an honor to have him finish out his career with LA. I can't thank Maddux enough for helping us make it to the post season twice, and for all the things he taught to our young pitchers. Greg I look forward to the day you get into the HOF! Best of luck!
Posted by: IEBlue | December 05, 2008 at 09:49 PM
Greg Maddux is a great pitcher. Too bad Chicago let him go...he HELPED develop Glavine...
He was an influence to all.
"Make your strikes look like balls, and your balls look like strikes"
HOF For sure. Him and Randy Johnson are both in the top 5 of all time.
Posted by: GmblngPtchr20 | December 05, 2008 at 10:34 PM
I created an account just to be able to comment on this...I am a life long Mets fan but Greg Maddux has always been my favorite player. He is the reason that I fell in love with pitching. No doubt the greatest pitcher (if not player period) of my generation, and the best I probably ever will see. It's a sad day for me and I am sure many other fans. We lose superman today..Maddux was and always will be a hero to me.
Posted by: Jason B | December 05, 2008 at 11:21 PM
Quitter!
Grin.
Posted by: Devlsh | December 06, 2008 at 12:27 AM
The reason I became a Braves fan is because in 1996, at 4 years old, My grandfather turned on TBS and made me watch Maddux pitch. Every fifth day of the season I was at my grandparent's house watching Mad Dog pitch. Even today, he is my favorite pitcher and he probably always will be. He and Chipper Jones were my childhood idols and remain to this day. An amazing career. I still remember this quote from him that still makes me laugh.
"One day, I threw the ball as hard as I could and he clocked it at 88, I said forget it."
Ahaha, he was a genius and I think the best pitcher not named Matthewson or Walter.
Posted by: bravesrule14 | December 06, 2008 at 12:56 AM
The only I ever had against Maddux was when back in '93 he didn't want to sign with Yankees because 'my wife would divorce me if we lived in New York'. Lost out on four WS rings. But Mad Dog was the best pitcher of this generation & a class act to boot. I hope he resurfaces as a coach.
Posted by: sunblazer | December 06, 2008 at 07:51 AM
*beef
Posted by: sunblazer | December 06, 2008 at 07:52 AM
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that Maddux pitches like Neil Peart plays the drums. Almost machine-like and they both have the nickname of "Professor". Maddux is my favorite pitcher of this generation and will go in on the first ballot! Also, for you Rock fans, Rush should go into The Rock And Roll HOF as well!
Posted by: Adam Lambert | April 13, 2009 at 01:11 AM