Jake Peavy Rumors: Wednesday

"Cubs get Peavy
O's get Pie
Twins get DeRosa,
Padres get Olson, Marquis(+$4mm, Slowey/Perkins (from twins), Mike Redmond (from twins), Cedeno, Hart"

This offer seems pretty realistic to me from everything we've heard. If not the twins maybe the Phillies in a very similar deal.

wonder if the Phils balked at happ and instead offered Kendrick because they're concerned they're not getting Lowe as the yanks will swoop in with a ridiculous offer for him which then sent the Cubs to Minnesota???

I'll say it again. The fact that D-Ro will probably be a type A free agent after next year has to up his value, at least a little.

If people are going to call him a utility player, then he is the best one in baseball.

I would actually love to see the Cubs commit to Fontenot. He made a believer out of me this year. I do love having D-Ro though. He is the best insurance against an injury that you can get.

I don't know, this whole thing is making my head spin. I can understand the undervaluing DeRosa thing as well...people were saying that the Adam Kennedy signing was better than the DeRosa one, and that Hendry overpaid. Little did they know, they would look like fools the next year, and even bigger ones the year after that. However, I would also worry if I were the Phils about helping the Cubs out. There is no arguing that the Phils are a better team this year with DeRosa on it than they would be without him though.

BREAKING NEWS:

Bruce Levine is reporting the deal is pretty much done. DeRosa to Philly, Vitters, Marquis, Hart and Philly prospects to SD, Peavy to Cubs.

"Bruce Levine is reporting the deal is pretty much done. DeRosa to Philly, Vitters, Marquis, Hart and Philly prospects to SD, Peavy to Cubs."

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Marquis? I assume the Cubs are eating plenty of salary.

haha EK

NICE TRY!!!

Question for a Phillies fan:

We all know Carrasco is the big fish in the Phillies system, and Donald's good as blocked.

Who,among the other Phillies prospects, is the top guy? Michael Taylor? Don't know much about Phils farm.

"Cubs get Peavy
O's get Pie
Twins get DeRosa,
Padres get Olson, Marquis(+$4mm, Slowey/Perkins (from twins), Mike Redmond (from twins), Cedeno, Hart"

This is an absolutely awful trade for the Twins to make.

melonis,

other names are:
Michael taylor
Dominic Brown
Lou Marson (you likely know)
Quintin Berry
Kyle Drabek
Travis D'Arnaud
Joe Savery
Antonio Bastardo
Edgar Garcia

a ton of lower level pitching prospects like:

Julian Sampson
Michael Cisco
Jason Knapp
Vance Worley
Jarred Cossart
Jonathan Pettibone
Michael Stutes
Justin DeFratus
Brian Rosenberg
Michael Schwimmer.

Most of the above are among our top prospects. Most good pitching is was at Low A this year and competed for the SAL title.

"haha EK

NICE TRY!!!"

Trust me, I don't blame you for not believing me as I wouldn't believe it either. But Levine did report this just 30 minutes ago. He said there are a few things they need to figure out, but the deal is all but finalized. And yes, they will be eating half of Marquis' salary.

Interesting that the Pie/Olson portion wasn't mentioned. I wonder if he just left that out by mistake or not.....

Kyle Kendrick blows.

so does Marquis. at least Kendrick while being horrible, is cheap.

I guess this solidifies EK's Bruce Levine Report...

http://stations.espn.go.com/stations/espnradio1000/blog?id=3738908

That is from Bruce Levine

philsWSchamps- Awesome. Thanks.

I really, really like Drabek. He's got great upside. Taylor's nice too.
I don't see why either should be traded for DeRosa.

I've heard of Marson, just forgot about him. IMO Phillies shouldn't trade Marson. If any catcher goes, its Jaramillo.

I'm assuming that the Padres will want a young pitcher with good upside from Philly. I don't think Kendrick will cut it. I'm assuming Happ already has his spot in the rotation. Carrasco shouldn't be touched for a rental.

Since the Phils don't have that many near-MLB ready front-type guys, I say Bastardo/Savery + Donald + low level guy gets it done.

that report said "At the same time, the Cubs are working on a trade to bring an outfielder to the club. I'll check-in when I know more."

I wonder what that is? Giles maybe? I hope not teahan. I could live with Hermida and could definately live with DeJesus.

what other options are out there.

"I'm guessing Hermida or signing Bradley"

Where will the Cubbies get the prospects to get Hermida? Aren't they shipping them away for Peavy?

Not going to happen but I am just thinking this...

On Tuesday, the Cincinnati Reds traded versatile INF/OF Ryan Freel and two minor leaguers to the Baltimore Orioles for catcher Ramon Hernandez. Freel is a speedy, top-of-the-order utility player who can play second. He played the majority of his games in the Reds' outfield in 2008 and batted leadoff or second in over 90 percent of his at-bats last season. Injuries limited him to 47 games last year and 75 in 2007, but prior to that he had stolen 30 or more bases in three consecutive seasons.

This could be good for the Orioles, because unless they get Tex, which isn’t going to happen, they most likely will not compete. Could we still deal for Roberts, if we trade DeRosa?

Pie, Marshall, Guzman, Cedeno, Wuertz???

This is the nasty nasty starting rotation!! haha Good gambling season to bet on the cubbies

Here is the order of outfielders I would like them to aquire either by FA or trade:

1. Giles
2. Milton Bradley
3. DeJesus

All the others aren't very appealing either because of the contracts they would command, or what we would have to give up.

I think that Levine Report is just him being behind in the rumors, that was basically the scenario being talked about yesterday afternoon.

Also, if Towers likes Olson, I'm not sure why Hendry wouldn't do Pie for Olson and include him in the trade instead of Hart. Also, I'm not sure why Towers wants Vitters either, so that trade doesn't seem very likely.

"I think that Levine Report is just him being behind in the rumors, that was basically the scenario being talked about yesterday afternoon."

Levine is in Vegas and he reported that after hearing from someone at the meetings.

"Here is the order of outfielders I would like them to aquire either by FA or trade:

1. Giles
2. Milton Bradley
3. DeJesus

All the others aren't very appealing either because of the contracts they would command, or what we would have to give up."

I have no problem with that list. #1 & #3 are longshots at best.

"It said something about Zambrano could be traded? What about Carlos Zambrano for Carlos Beltran?"

Wittenmyer says Cub brass shot the Zambrano trade rumor down.

CubFanForLife - As a Padre fan I agree that if Cubs eat half of his salary Maquis makes a ton of sense for the Padres.

"I think we see this deal get announced after the Rule 5 draft is completed.

Cubs get: Peavy
Philly gets: DeRosa
SD gets: Vitters, Marquis + $5 million, Hart, Happ, and one more Philly prospect"

For what it's worth, the Levine reports suggests that the Cubs would get at least a second prospect from Philly.

CubFanForLife - There is a general frustration in San Diego because of the owner slashing the payroll from $70 mil to $40 mil and we know that Peavy has to be traded to make this happen. I dont think you can blame Jake for dictating where he wants to go...he took a pay cut to stay in SD and now less than a year after he signed his contract the Padres want to ship him out of town...if I was him I would prob do the same thing.

In the beginning I think there was a little resentment from some fans towards Peavy because the FO made it seem like Peavy was pushing to be traded which was completley untrue and it came out later that they are doing it to cut payroll so all resentment has been shifted to the owner.

Muskat rumor -

DeRosa staying put? Don't think so. Everything coming out of Chicago is that he will most definitely be dealt if/when the Peavy trade happens.

"It is highly unlikely that he will come close to those numbers in 2009, and completely speculative to say that he would be a Type A free agent after the season."

This is his third year in a row of blowing his "career" numbers away...I think its time to put the "he isn't good, last year was a career year" thing behind us all being that he has done it three years in a row. This is the same stuff said by the Cardinals fans when they chose Kennedy instead of DeRosa.

I'm a big DeRosa fan, but I think it'd be tough to trade 5 years of Happ for just 1 year of him and probably a draft pick or two (I don't know if he'll end up as a type A if he's in LF most of next season). Kendrick would clearly be a no brainer, but I'm actually pretty high on Happ, as least in terms of his ability to be a capable starter right now.

I don't want Philly fans to have to worry themselves with DeRosa. I hope the Cubs get to keep him in '09. There, it's solved.

Now, the Phillies are interested in Scott Hairston for LF.

Really?

well IF DeRosa's out I'd assume the Phils are out which is A-OK by me. hopefully this whole thing falls apart so the entire NL doesn't have to worry about the juggernaut that would be the Cubs REGULAR SEASON rotation.

"I may just be a drunk and angry Philly fan but I definitely missed all those other years DeRosa was slugging .481"

He has slugged .420 or better 4 years in a row, and was at .456 two years ago. Oh, his OBP has gone up 4 straight years as well. Yes, last year was his best year. But to cite his career numbers when he was used irregularly and expect that they end up looking like that, well...its uninformed.

Probably would most likely be Kedrick and Carassco, which still makes me uncomfortable.

The whole DeRosa thing could have been made up by Towers, who knows. The fact is Towers is the one who admitted he got a third and fourth team involved. Hendry is trying to get offense and does not really like three or four way deals anyway. Maybe there was or is truth to DeRosa being involved. Maybe Hendry is squashing the notion or maybe Amaro is not getting involved. There are many factors with multiple teams involved.

A posting from Muskat saying DeRosa will not be traded.

The next update has Brock saying the Twins are in on DeRosa.

You have to love it.

There you go Philly fans. If you believe the latest report, you are off the hook for DeRosa.

Up next: Twinkie fans hating Mark.

I certainly don't consider 21 HRs and 87 RBIs 'light hitting'. Mark DeRosa never got a chance to start full time until 2007 with the Cubs. He posted career highs across the board that year, then surpassed them all last year, all while being the ultimate team player, a leader in the clubhouse, and a reporter's dream with great sound bytes. Why all the hate for this guy? You Phils fans get way to attached to unproven, mediocre pitching prospects. Casey Blake just got 3 years and 17.1 mil from the Dodgers after putting up numbers almost identical to DeRosa. Blake plays 3rd base. DeRosa plays 2nd, 3rd, LF, RF, and 1st and seems to almost get de-valued for that.

And BTW, anything that Carrie Muskat says is complete BS. Her Cubs 'source' is probably the guy who sweeps out the bleachers during the offseason at Wrigley. :)

This would be better than signing any of the remaining pitchers for the Yanks!!! I hope they go for it...

oh crap! here come the yankees fans.

Yankees had A TON of money come off payroll!! They are doing what they have to do.. Like i have said a million times...I feel fortunate being a Yankee fan!!

Highly unlikely but any chance Bedard get non tendered. Would be a great pick up for the phils or any team but I think it's not gonna happen they gave up too much to get him.

Umm...I disagree bernie. Even as a Cubs fan.

Hughes, Kennedy, and a couple of B prospects gets this done...if Peavy waives his NTC, which I doubt he will do with a deal to the team he really wants to go to almost done. Plus, what song would he sing when he was drunk this weekend?

No way Bedard is non-tendered. The M's would want to get at least something back, after all they gave up to get him in the first place.

I thought the center piece is Austin Jackson who is a top 20 prospect...then you add a Hughes OR a Kennedy and one or two more lower prospects...that gets it done i would think

Hope the Yanks sign Burnett. The Braves idiotic GM obviously didn't learn anything from Mike Hampton. And why is it that everyone wants to help out the Cubs? O yeah the haven't won a WS in like 100 yrs. But I still don't see that happening even after they get Peavy.

"However, I'm pretty certain Hughes and Jackson + B prospect or two gets it done as well."

if that was on the table i think it would be done today

Well, with the constant Peavy updates, no word on a lefty hitter yet.

The Cubs seem to be out of the Ibanez derby. He wants 10/3 and is more in line with someone else.

Hendry is still hot after Bradley. So is Tampa Bay.

Just thought I would break up the Peavy 'status quo' chat.

Seriously though, I would not mind Bradley. Just hope he does not get into trouble.

Towers said by Thursday after the Rule 5 draft he would know if a Cub deal for Peavy was in play soon or if Peavy starts the year as a Padre. Then see what market opens up in July.

Carrie Muscrat is either the most "in the know" or has no idea what she is talking about. Every article she writes is the exact opposite of the rumors that are circulating.

Or she's the misinformation portal for Hendry

gcheezpuff - we definitely don't want to hold onto Pie for a reliever given Pie is out of options and we're keeping Marshall and Hart so the pen is pretty set

Marmol - closer
Gregg
Szmardjia
Cotts
Gaudin
Marshall
Hart/Guzman