Mets Acquire Putz In Three-Team Deal

this is awesome!!!! Finally, a good trade by the Mets!!!

Franklin Gutierrez? As in the guy from the Indians?

Mets get: Putz
Indians get: Heilman, Carp, Chavez
Mariners get: Gutierrez

As a Mets fan I would like that trade a lot.

Mariners and Indians fans? Would you make that trade?

Mets Rebuilding that Bullpen, good for them.

The Mets BP was terrible last year KROD and Putz will make it as solid as any bullpen out there and think in 2010 when Bill Wagner is back it could be the best

Good return, IMO, but the Mariners and Mets if this trade happens...Gutierrez could end up being a pretty solid player.

Tough...why the hell would they pick up Wagners 10 (or 11?) million dollar option? Coming off surgery? I'm pretty sure they have ALREADY said they won't.

K-Rod and Putz would be an awesome 1-2 punch in the bullpen...

Get it done Omar!

Since when did Putz value go down so much? Why would the Mariners give up Putz for Guiterriez????????

ya there has to be more players in this trade if not the Mariners are morons

No way the M's give up JJ for Franklin.. JJ was the M's MVP when he was healthy... you guys are crazy if you think that is the deal.. the M's would need a lot more in return.

thanks a lot dombrowski

signed: a pissed off tigers fan.

No way this can happen with the players mentioned.

No way the Mets steal Putz from the M's for that pile of turds.

Indians fans... would you rather get F Guttierez or Larish and Joyce from Tigers?

Not saying we wouldve made that trade I'm just wondering what you think the better return would be

above post directed at Mariners fans.... my apologies

All the Mariners get for Putz is Gutierrez? Aww, c'mon. He's still all potential, while Putz has already shown what he can do in the majors. There's got to be more involved here for the Mariners.

I don't see this happening. The Bevasi era is over remember?

I just went from six to midnight

Are you guys serious?

There is no way The M's are only getting Gut.

If the names are correct, Heilman is coming to CLE, Carp, Gut, and Chavez to SEA and Putz to NYM.

"The Indians, Mets and Mariners appear to be on the verge of a three-team deal in which J.J. Putz would go to New York as the setup man to the newly acquired Francisco Rodriguez.

The particulars of the deal were still being worked out Wednesday night at the Bellagio, but it appears Franklin Gutierrez is headed to the M's, and Mets right-handed reliever Joe Smith and Mariners infielder Luis Valbuena are coming to Cleveland.

Mets right-hander Aaron Heilman and Mariners outfielder Jeremy Reed are also believed to be involved, though it is unclear who is headed where.

Stay tuned. Many, many more updates to come"

Thats from Anthony Castro. on indians.com

If there is legs on this one (doubt it), there is a LOT more to it. If the Mariners are getting back Gutierrez as the center piece, I would rather them trade Putz for Joyce. Joyce>Gutierrez and hits left handed.

If the Mets are also giving up Joe Smith in this deal... well, they'd better be getting a 2nd player back in return

AtlantaBred your post could be a skit for MadTV...that's how ridiculous it was.

K-Rod blowing his first 15 chances?? yeaaaaaaa okkkkkkkk

I love this trade if it happens. I still don't believe it but I love it.

I really hope Joe Smith isn't involved in the deal. He's the friggin man.

I like Joe Smith a lot but if we are just giving up Smith and Heilman (and not Endy,Carp) for Putz than I am a very happy Mets fan

Wahoo,

Good report there. Putz and KRod would be one filthy back end of the bullpen. Good night after the 8th inning.

However, I just don't see why the Mariners would make this deal knowing that other teams are heavily interested in him. They would can probably get more from another team and Putz probably would like to remain a closer for some team.

i like joe smith also but just think of how that combo of putz-k-rod would be...prolly the best in the majors

johnnydollaz89,

please?? Best in the majors? It won't even be the best in your division. That resides 90 miles south.

Lidge and Madson > K-ROd and Putz.

Putz has got to come back from a below average year last year. But with relievers anything's possible. Mets are definitely buying low which is smart.

closers market is much smaller now, the sox could get a huge bounty if they were to trade bobby jenks."

alot of people on the site want no part of him..

Posted by: 661dodgerblue | December 10, 2008 at 08:16 PM

Ya, i know that, yet i am thankful that some of the guys that post here are not GMs. lol yes im looking at you rsd.

Like the fact that the BREWERS are not doing a single thing now that CC is not coming here. They liked Putz and now seems like they are going to miss out. They also liked Kerry Wood before he signed. Then it was Fuentes but now the Cardinals seem like the choice. Way to go Doug Melvin you P.O.S.

All the $ now and no rumors involving the Brewers. Makes me sick. Congrats Mets fans on improving your team!

Lidge > K-Rod

Putz > Madson if Putz is healthy. If not, Madson > Putz.

Madson isn't really that bad.

Look philsWSchamps (man that hurts to write), I think Madson is a very good pitcher. But I don't think he's ever gonna have that kind of year again, and when you combine that with his motion (which puts a ton of stress on his left leg), you've got a breakdown in the making. Now, I could be wrong about Madson, but I do know this: Putz can only get better. He and K-Rod had down years; Lidge and Madson had career years. So right now, I'd put the Phils tandem ahead of the Mets, but it's close.

"Lidge > K-Rod

Putz > Madson if Putz is healthy. If not, Madson > Putz.

Madson isn't really that bad."

Except Lidge is slightly better or equal to K-rod and Putz (when healthy, which he was in September) is much better than Madson. Putz when healthy is better than K-rod/Lidge.

Seriously? Putz was the best closer in baseball bar none in 2007. Two elite closers is much better than Lidge/Madson.

ya but in 08 he was close to horrible he had a 1.6 WHIP and 8 blown saves.

oh and in 2010 you're paying him 8.6 million to be a set up guy.

but again its a good deal IF he comes back to 2007 form.

Mets fans you want to chill out, this isn't a done deal yet

But yes, if you give up Smith and Heilman for Putz, that's a great deal

I'd kill for Madson. Coming off two great years.

Pitched a hell of a game against the Mets like 2 years ago. Pitched like 7 or 8 innings in relief before giving up a walkoff HR in extras.

I wonder if Dellucci, and or Barfield could be involved.

If the Mets get rid of Chavez, they'll need someone to fill the Alou/Chavez spots in their order. Dellucci could be part of the platoon.

Barfield could be a possibilty to the NYM because, rumors say they're looking to move Luis Castillo and Barfield could be in the mix for the 2b job with them.

Indians Get:
Smith
Valbuena
Reed

M's Get:
Gut
Chavez
Heilman
Carp

Mets Get:
Barfield
Dellucci
Putz

Not a bad deal for anyone except maybe the M's

wow as a life long M's fan this is making me increasingly mad as pieces of this deal get exposed. It's not that I am upset about Putz leaving as I don't really care about that, but the return for not only him leaving but Valbuena and possibly also reed being Gutierrez is beyond unacceptable.

Plain and Simple there better be other pieces coming our way or Z is already putting his foot out the door

"talk to me when Lidge blows a save. then you can tell me Putz is better than him."

$1000 says Lidge blows a save next year. And Putz '07>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lidge '08.

I'm a Heilman supporter. He was a great reliever for three years before blowing last year.

You can't trash him for one bad year when you were cheering your ass off for him the previous three.

6 Mets players involved? Jesus. I don't like the sound of that.

"Heilman won't recover with the Mets though."

Why the hell does everyone keep saying that? The guy succeeded in NY for years. He was a great reliever. Now after one bad year he's a mental midget?

Give me a break.

Dear Phils fans,

Lidge was awesome last year, but he won't remain 08 Lidge. Come back to realty.

"Why the hell does everyone keep saying that? The guy succeeded in NY for years. He was a great reliever. Now after one bad year he's a mental midget?"

If he stays with the Mets I will root for him a hope that he recovers. I guess there's still a chance of it happening. I'd rather have someone more definite.

CitizenSnips,

yes we know Lidge will eventually blow a save and you know what we'll deal with that much better now that he's won a WS. Will he be like 08, no, but he won't revert back to his worst days with the Astros either.

Stellar, he won't succeed with the Mets anymore. Too much has happened, from the playoff failure, to this horrendous last year. He's worn out his welcome, he needs a change of scenery.

Heilman, Endy, and Smith is nowhere near a fair haul for Putz.

Stellar, only if you're valuing Putz as the 2006-2007 pitcher and not the 2008 Pitcher. You know, the one who had an injury, a high 3 ERA, ect.

And before you play the off-year, injury-plauged year, realize that applies to Heilman as well, except he pitched through injuries.

Good article written Nov 12th, 2008 at FanGraphs(RotoGraphs)by Brian Joura, the basic jist of it is he's saying Putz is healthy and he should be a top 3-5 closer in 2009.

Here's the link: http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index.php/will-jj-putz-regain-elite-closer-status

"i wouldnt take any less than f-mart and smith or niese and heilman."

The Mariners are willing to trade Putz for lower level prospects because they are in rebuilding mode. He does not factor into their long term plans.

if there are 6 mets players involved, plus putz and gutierrez and the second baseman from SEA that's nine, i wonder who the other 3 guys are?

SEA Gets: Gutierrez, Chavez, Carp, Heilman

NYM Gets: Putz, Reed, one more cle player

CLE Gets: Smith, Valbuena, one more mets player and a mariners player?

sound about right? any ideas of who the other plays might be.