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There have been lots of rumblings about the Yankees' fading interest in Andy Pettitte, but he still has a $10MM offer from the club for 2009 according to Anthony McCarron of the New York Daily News.
A baseball official confirmed to McCarron that the Yankees are ready to go in "another direction" since Phil Hughes seems ready for a rotation spot. The official said the chances of Pettitte's return are "55-45 against."
We're not likely to hear of any decisions until next week, when Yankees offices reopen.
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Pettitte would be smart to take that offer NOW.
Posted by: melonis rex | December 27, 2008 at 09:50 AM
I agree melonis rex the yankees are could to pull there offer any minute now.
Posted by: Jon | December 27, 2008 at 10:03 AM
The Yankees really DO still need another starter. Burnett and Joba are plus plus arms...but both are potential injuries. Hughes, Kennedy and Aceves are still unproven. They need another innings eater.
If Penny is healthy and wants that one-year deal...that would REALLY PO the Red Sox and fill a need! lol
Posted by: jjyankeesfan2 | December 27, 2008 at 10:15 AM
what is the difference between burnett and penny? and ben sheets for that matter?
Posted by: pvilly131 | December 27, 2008 at 10:24 AM
Yankees will never sign with a last name of Penny.
Posted by: Cyyoung | December 27, 2008 at 10:32 AM
The Yanks I hope will sign Petite and have Hughes or Aceves Ready when he retires, if not the Yanks could sign Penny or someone for a short term contract to get their young arms ready. I wouldnt want to push their young arms right out there after what happened last year.
Posted by: TripleHHH | December 27, 2008 at 10:55 AM
The Yanks really need Pettitte, you can never have too much pitching and like someone mentioned above Joba and Burnett are studs they both have injury concerns and Joba is limited to 130 innings. I think Hughes is going to be a good big league pitcher but I would like to see some more from him. If the Yanks are going to spend 400 mil plus to win now spend another 10 mil to have a very good insurance policy.
Posted by: Jeter is God | December 27, 2008 at 11:23 AM
"what is the difference between burnett and penny? and ben sheets for that matter?"
Burnett has never had a major arm injury for one.
Posted by: NJYankeeFan | December 27, 2008 at 11:32 AM
""what is the difference between burnett and penny? and ben sheets for that matter?""
One finished the season healthy and put up a career high in IP.
The other is a better pitcher, but didn't finish the season healthy.
The third sucked and missed most of the season.
Posted by: melonis rex | December 27, 2008 at 11:47 AM
Yankees will never sign with a last name of Penny.
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WHat about Curt SChilling? A Schilling is worth about 20x a Penny.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | December 27, 2008 at 12:00 PM
I think the Yanks should sign Pettitte if he accepts the 10 mil. If not, should the Yanks bump the offer to $12 mil? Maybe. Sign him to a 1 year deal and start Hughes in AAA with the understanding mentioned to him, to stay sharp and that he would be the 1st one called up should an injury arise. The Yanks have never had pitching depth and I would hate to see us have to scronge around to find someone should Hughes, Joba or someone else get injured or prove ineffective. WOuld also like to see the Yanks maybe work out a deal for Matsui for Dontrelle Willis too.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | December 27, 2008 at 12:04 PM
78
NO WAY the Yankees ever consider signing that POS Shilling...and what Yankee fan would want his arrogance, non-stop mouth and his 41 year old arm?
Detroit has no use for Matsui. They have Thames, Granderson and Maggs with Sheff at DH.
Finally, why on earth would we want D Willis??? He has come unglued Rick Ankiel style and has a multi-year deal remaining. I'd rather have me out there.
Did you endulge in a little too much Christmas Cheer this morning?
Posted by: jjyankeesfan2 | December 27, 2008 at 01:03 PM
Yankee Fans:
Let's be smart and hope Cashman reads this. The Yanks need insurance, sign Pettitte and Sheets or Penny and start Joba in the bullpen. Then when an injury arrives Joba starts and if another injury arrives or Joba reaches his innings limit then Hughes/Aceves or Kennedy starts. This is a full proof way of guaranteeing a division title for an additional 24 million and you can leave everything else alone.
Posted by: yanksrule | December 27, 2008 at 02:12 PM
Guys...I was just joking.
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Yankees will never sign with a last name of Penny.
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WHat about Curt SChilling? A Schilling is worth about 20x a Penny.
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A schilling use to be a currency used in Britian, worth approximately 23x a U.S penny? Damn....this is good material people!!! lol.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | December 27, 2008 at 02:32 PM
JJ:
I mentioned this deal somewhere else before. In a nutshell w/o the finishing touches on it.
Magglio, Dontrelle and Zumaya
for
Matsui, Nady, David RObertson, Alan Horne and etc.
Tigers want to slash payroll. That exchange of salary Magglio ($33 mil) and Dontrelle ($22 mil) minus Matsui's (13 mil) and Nady (5-7 mil after arb) saves them about 33 mil plus they'll have 2 or 3 young arms left afterwards. Nady replaces Magglio for a year. Matsui and Sheff can righty/lefty platoon and then they're both FA's. The Yanks can assume Magg's salary and Dontrelle, if he can be revived is still only 27. Meanwhile, maybe the Tigers use the 10 mil they save in 09 salary and sign Sheets or Garland for 12 or 13 mil. Guillen moves from LF back to 3b, Thames in LF, Granderson in CF and Nady in RF.
1b-Cabrera
2b-Polanco
ss-Everett
3b-Guillen
C-Laird
LF-Thames
Cf-Granderson
RF-Nady
DH-Matsui (L)/Sheff (R)
SP-Verlander
SP-Galaraga
SP-Sheets/Garland
SP-Bonderman
SP-Jackson
Yanks line-up
Damon
Jeter
Teixeira
Arod
Ordonez (RF/DH)
Posada
Cano
Swisher (DH/RF)
Melky/Gardner
SP-CC
SP-AJ
SP-Wang
SP-Joba
Sp-Pettitte/Hughes
Waiting in the wings:
Hughes (mlb/AAA)
Dontrelle (mlb/AAA)
Kennedy (AAA)
Aceves (AAA)
Sanchez (AAA)
Horne (AAA)
Bentances (AA)
Brackman (AA)
McAllister (AA)
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | December 27, 2008 at 02:49 PM
And in winter 2010 the Tigers don't have to worry about paying Willis his 2010 salary of 12 mil or Ordonez his salary of 15 mil and they have Matsui, Nady and Sheffield coming off the books (33 mil) so they would have 45 mil to spend that they wouldn't have had before.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | December 27, 2008 at 02:54 PM
78
Not picking on you...but all I see from that is the Yankees taking on a horrible contract in Willis...and the Tigers being overloaded with OF's having Matsui, Sheff, Thames, Granderson and Nady. Doesn't make sense. Plus, for the money Willis is making, he wouldn't be going to AAA (if he even has options..or would allow it) which means he'd have to be the #5...and if you saw him at all last year...you wouldn't be pulling for that. He looked like Stevie Wonder out there.
I think the Yankees should keep their OF's. Matsui is the DH, Damon in LF, Gardner in CF and Nady in RF with Swisher backing up all three AND Tex. His contract is cheap enough for the Yankees to keep him in a utility role.
If they ARE going to get rid of one guy, Matsui is the only one to go...and I see the M's as a good fit. They need a DH with pop, have a HUGE Asian population and could take on a one-year deal. I'm not a big Washburn fan...but he would make some sense for Matsui as a #5 starter. His record was horrible, but posted a decent era in the 2nd half and generally does eat innings and compete. Would have nearly the same salary as what the Yankees are offering Andy and is 3 years younger. Moving Matusi's contract and freeing the DH spot could also lead to a Manny signing.
Posted by: jjyankeesfan2 | December 27, 2008 at 04:04 PM
The Yankees really need a super utility guy. I'd like to see them go after Aaron Miles. He can play 2B, SS or 3B in a pinch and is a decent hitter. The bench is something that hasn't been addressed in years. Kotsay is another nice role player if Matsui is dealt.
Posted by: jjyankeesfan2 | December 27, 2008 at 04:19 PM
jjyankeesfan: I agree w/ you that the Yanks do not need to trade anybody. I should have mentioned the disclaimer like I did on another thread that the only way that happens is if the rumor of the Yanks intending to sign Man-NY and LOOKING to trade 2 of the current of's. Also, if Willis get's it together, keep in mind that he's only 27, he would be a steal at 10 mil per. And that's the catch to it, he needs to be put back on track. Meanwhile can you imagine if they made that trade and picked up Man-NY?
As for the M's, yes I made the same thought about him going to them since they need a bat and have the Japaneese connection, however I would want no part of Washburn, that's subtraction by addition. Better off sticking with Hughes, Aceves or Kennedy rather than Washburn.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | December 27, 2008 at 05:09 PM
Just imagine if the Man-NY rumor were true and the Detroit trade went down:
Damon- LF
Jeter- SS
Tex- 1B
Arod- 3B
Man-NY-DH
Ordonez-RF
Posada-C
Cano-2b
Gardner-CF
4th of-Swisher
5th of-Cabrera
Utility-Ransom
Bench-????
CC
AJ
Wang
Joba
Hughes/Willis
Rivera
Zumaya
Ramirez
Bruney
Coke
Marte
Veras
25 man roster...see you in october...lol
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | December 27, 2008 at 05:16 PM
Yanks should offer Pettite 100K less every 24 hours.
Posted by: paxterj | December 27, 2008 at 06:31 PM
I think the yanks shouldnt deal an outfielder rather they should go get one. They NEED a soild center fielder!
I been toying with the idea of something like......
Kennedy/Veras/Ramirez for David Dejesus
Then they can call up melenchon, then after the deal is done go ahead and move nady for a young arm like sanchez, and stick him in the pen
Posted by: James Alipo | December 27, 2008 at 07:38 PM
burnett is a power pitcher who puts too much strain on his shoulder therefore is tend to more injured
sheets and penny are finesse pitcher, and there injuries are wierd ones, sheets for example, he is injured everything
Posted by: marlinsman1120 | December 27, 2008 at 10:53 PM
"Burnett has never had a major arm injury for one."
You're kidding, right?
Burnett had Tommy John surgery in 2003, more elbow problems in 2006, and shoulder problems in 2007.
Posted by: yanksfan | December 27, 2008 at 11:47 PM
Pettitte will end up with the Dodgers,they seem like the best fit.
Posted by: JT89 | December 28, 2008 at 03:26 AM
2003 was a long time ago. Since he has had soreness here and there. He is certainly no horse but he is also no Ben Sheets or Brad Penny.
What I like about bringing Pettite back is it would allow the Yanks to use Hughes as a swingman and limit AJ's and Joba's innings while Hughes builds confidence.
Posted by: NJYankeeFan | December 28, 2008 at 07:29 AM
NJYankeeFan, not sure what you're trying to say there. Burnett has had more DL stints than Sheets and his stints have been longer. Most of Burnett's DL stints have been due to elbow or shoulder problems. Most of Sheets injuries have been unrelated to his arm.
The only thing Burnett has over Sheets is that Burnett finished the season healthy while Sheets got hurt at the end.
Posted by: yanksfan | December 28, 2008 at 10:37 AM
ok ok ok singe him just dont go with a one year deal bumpe it up to three years and 14 mill
Posted by: ryno | December 28, 2008 at 06:26 PM