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Once again, John Fay and Walt Jocketty have discussed some Reds offseason activity.
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Colletti better move on Manny before Nady and/or Swisher leave NY. Ha!
Posted by: paxterj | January 10, 2009 at 02:18 PM
Nady, IPK & one more arm for Harrang...gives the Reds ML ready talent, including a RH cleanup hitter, and greater payroll flexibility
Posted by: Joba | January 10, 2009 at 02:27 PM
The Reds should do a deal for Swisher. The GABP is a launching pad and he can slide right in as their everyday left fielder. A Homer Bailey package? Nady is good as a platoon player, and his contract is expiring. Stay away, makes no sense. Jim Bowden should go after Nady since he's got more outfielders than empty bottles in his office...too soon?
Posted by: Andrew I | January 10, 2009 at 02:29 PM
I like Nady NY should unload Swisher.
Posted by: manny24 | January 10, 2009 at 02:39 PM
Harang for Nady (or anyone, for that matter) makes no sense for the Reds. Harang is the team's ace and he is signed to a reasonable contract. he is a better pitcher than Vasquez, and the Braves gave up much much more than a player like Nady for him. ive seen this trade proposal more than a few times the past few weeks and i honestly cannot believe anyone takes it seriously.
Posted by: charliescrabbles | January 10, 2009 at 02:41 PM
"Of course, the Red Sox do have the better team, albeit in a much more difficult division."
The "albeit" caveat is ridiculous. The Red Sox have a far better chance of winning the AL East than the Reds have of winning the NL Central.
Posted by: crunchy1 | January 10, 2009 at 02:43 PM
Keep in mind that the Yanks might lose Matsui, Damon and Nady to FA next year. Keeping Swisher would be a smart move as he can become the starting LF or RF in 2010 and is under contract for 3 more years. I don't see the Yanks going hard after Holliday next year either. I think the Yanks will sign 1 mid sized star OF and call it a day next year and look to maybe sign a C (Molina) and slide Posada to DH?
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | January 10, 2009 at 02:46 PM
"Of course, the Red Sox do have the better team, albeit in a much more difficult division."
The "albeit" caveat is ridiculous. The Red Sox have a far better chance of winning the AL East than the Reds have of winning the NL Central.
Not really...A few of the Reds have good years (Votto, Phillips, Encarnacion, Bruce) coupled with Volquez Harang Cueto...They could get the division or WC. The Red Sox look like the third best team in their division.
Posted by: Joba | January 10, 2009 at 02:48 PM
Joba congratulations, youre about to be inundated with sox fans telling you how stupid you are for saying they're 3rd best in their division.
Posted by: Casanova Wong | January 10, 2009 at 02:53 PM
Really? IF? If ANY team get good years from half their lineup and 60% of their rotation --as you just stated they're capable of winning any division. Good one. Thanks for the "insight". But I'm supposed to believe one of the best teams in baseball has less of a chance of winning their division than the Reds, a team 14 games under .500 last year, has a chance of leapfrogging over 4 teams that one 86 games or more last year? Because every key player is going to have career years at the same time? What a crock.
Posted by: crunchy1 | January 10, 2009 at 02:59 PM
I think Bailey for Nady would be great. We still have young prospects pitchers like Ramon Ramirez, Daryl Thompson and Matt Maloney. Also Nady would be a perfect addition because he is at the best of his career. Reds do it now and so teams who is going to be a contender.
Posted by: Ryan | January 10, 2009 at 03:12 PM
Go after Nady
Posted by: Ryan | January 10, 2009 at 03:17 PM
Also why dont the Reds get Micheal young he would be a nice fit
Posted by: Ryan | January 10, 2009 at 03:20 PM
Why would the reds want Melky Cabrera? Jay Bruce is ten times the player melky is
Posted by: Casanova Wong | January 10, 2009 at 03:40 PM
Yeah why don't the Red Sox go out and get Albert Pujols too. I love the random comments with no rhyme or reason behind them. I figured a site like this would have a lot more meaningful commentators.
Harang for Nady would be a horrible deal. Im pretty sure Jockety is smarter than that. He's made no big splashes, a few minor moves like Willy T and Hairston. Also a one year stop gap move, swapping big contracts with the Os and getting Hernandez. The Reds need to worry about pitching before anything else.
Posted by: Andrew I | January 10, 2009 at 03:46 PM
Hatrang,cueto, and volquez has to be one of the top three in the whole NL. Reds would be crazy to deal him for 1 yr of nady without some other talent coming their way.
Posted by: Casanova Wong | January 10, 2009 at 03:51 PM
While I do think the yankees and Reds match up, none of these deals work.
Michael Young costs way too much
Nady is a FA at the end of the year, and unless you will contend you can't afford to give up multiple years of prospects for one of Nady.
No one wants Melky Cabrera in return for anything useful.
a 3 team deal might work, I think if the Giants are involved, but why would anyone give up a #4/5 for a AAAA pitcher and a CF who has not proven anything.
Posted by: carolina03 | January 10, 2009 at 03:58 PM
If we got Jonathan Sanchez in that deal it would work. The Reds need a great shortstop like Barry Larkin back in his day. I think Young would be as close as we could get to that guy. Also in left the order that I would go after is 1.Rios 2.Dye 3.Nady 4. Swisher. Any of those guys would really work.Also if we trade Arroyo or Bailey we would have to make that presence up by getting Sanchez or Sheets. If Nady is is your best option Walt then get him now before the Nationals call the Yankees for a trade. The Nationals are crazy for even looking at another outfielder. Also why couldn't the Reds of traded Dunn instead of Hamilton. He is like Willie Mays and Mickey Mantle because he can do everything. If you say he isn't even close then your an idiot. Also why can't the Reds get a manager like Jim Leyland or the best, Lou Pinella. You know how awesome that would be.
Posted by: Ryan | January 10, 2009 at 04:14 PM
Actually I change that Atkins is 2
Posted by: Ryan | January 10, 2009 at 04:18 PM
Ryan,
There was an article I read (can't find it now) that said the Rangers were interested in Dunn before the 2007 All Star break and Krivsky had a trade set up that would have brought Volquez back in return.
However, that trade didn't happen because the old grouch Bob Ca$htellini has a man crush on Dunn and said no to it.
So, just imagine. The Reds COULD have had Volquez in the starting rotation AND Hamilton in the Outfield if Ca$htellini would have kept his meddling fingers OUT of things.
Posted by: ctownboy | January 10, 2009 at 04:46 PM
Michael Young is NOT that expensive. That is because the Rangers paid him a huge signing bonus up front and thus reduces his yearly salary.
If the Reds are thinking about trading Bailey straight up for a one year rental of Xavier Nady then I would be ALL FOR trading Bailey for Young straight up.
Posted by: ctownboy | January 10, 2009 at 04:50 PM
I know i'm angry about that I wish Switzer got the ownership over Castellini. All the old time greats wanted him. First off when we had Dunn he should of been a firstbasemen. Getting Young is the best right handed bat we can get this offseason.
Posted by: Ryan | January 10, 2009 at 05:01 PM
Also in left we would have better defense in Dickerson, Hopper and Harison JR.
Posted by: Ryan | January 10, 2009 at 05:10 PM
Actually the Reds are my sleeper pick, or team to watch in the NL next year. Problem is they have to WIN the division to make the playoffs because I don't think they will win the wild card spot (Either the Phillies or Mets). I think they will seriously nip at the Cubs heels next year.
They were 4th in Hrs last year w/ 187 hrs (27 behind the leader the Phillies).
With Griffey and Patterson gone the Reds need to replace their 25 hrs but they still have 4 guys in Votto, Bruce, Phillips and E6 who can hit 25-30 hrs. They suck as a team in OBP.
Needs: A power bat with high OBP (Swisher, Abreu, Ordonez)??
Pitching wise they have solid power arms (4th in strikeouts w/ 1,227 vs the Cubs who were #1 with 1,264). Harang and Arroyo needs to turn things around and 22 year old Cueto could easily turn his 9-14 record around to 14-9.
Needs: They could use one more solid pitcher (Sheets, Garland, Perez??).
Meanwhile the CUbs are by far the leaders but what have the rest of Central division teams done?
Brewers have lost Sheets and CC.
Astros have done nothing to improve their team and have lost Wolf, Wiggington and Loretta. Who knows what you're getting from Hampton.
St. Louis will be competitive but they lost Looper and Isringhausen and have only added Khalil Greene.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | January 10, 2009 at 07:14 PM
Let me throw this out there. In the article Jocketty says, "But the trades that get made are usually the ones you don’t see coming."
Which tells me the Reds won't trade for Swisher or Nady and could be focused on someone better. Jocketty likes to operate in secret, like the Ramon Hernandez trade. He had him targeted since middle of 2008 and NO ONE saw that trade coming.
Posted by: BigRedOne | January 10, 2009 at 09:42 PM
On MLB TV it said that the Reds would be willing to listen to trades for Aaron Harang. It was also mentioned that a trade of Xavier Nady plus something else (likely a pitcher to replace the vacancy) would make sense.
Posted by: Rolling{Night}Hawk{09} | January 10, 2009 at 09:58 PM
Michael Young IS expensive at $16 million PER YEAR. If that is not expensive for a guy who is trending down ward and is already 32, then I don't know what is:
03/07: Signed five-year, $80 million extension. 2008: $5 million, 2009: $16 million, 2010: $16 million, 2011: $16 million, 2012: $16 million, 2013: $16 million, 2014: Free Agent
Jocketty scares me: he just gave Willy Taveras $6plus million over 2 years. Why? WHY? Makes no sense when they have Dickerson who is a HUGE talent. Just a silly waste of money. Krivsky was way better and should still have a job there.
Posted by: yesyeah | January 10, 2009 at 10:30 PM
Rolling, why trade Nady or Swisher for Harang, who's owed 2/35 mil guaranteed (if options is declined) when you can sign an #5 like Pettitte or Sheets for a lot less and USE Nady for your own in house purpose or to fill other needs (young position prospects)?
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | January 11, 2009 at 12:50 AM
It seems like a left handed pitcher is always big in the world series. Last there was David Price and Cole Hamels. The Reds should get lefty Jonathan Sanchez. Also we have to get that righty bat. A guy like Nady would be perfect.
Posted by: Ryan | January 11, 2009 at 11:32 AM