Giants Eyeing Crede

giants should go all out and sign crede to a 1 year deal manny for 3 years and trade for peavy. a deal around sanchez and burriss.

What about Sandoval? Does he play 1B under this scenario? Is he still seen as not ready?

Crede is a guy I would like to see the Twins sign to a one year deal. Offer him a nice bonus for reaching 400 AB's. The guy has a great glove and has the talent to hit well when healthy. Not sure what the price is on Crede but a one year 5-6M with a good bonus would be about right.

as long as SF gets him on a 1year deal and are confident he can stay healthy this would be a good move.

sandoval would not have to play 3rd

but i still think we would have to get 1 more bat (MANNY??)

hopefully dunn or pat burrells price tags can go down a bit

make those two moves and theyre in pretty good shape

I have to disagree with you on this one Tim. Crede is definately overratted. He cannot be counted on to play everyday, which would forcethe Giants into a plattoon with Sandoval and Crede, providing more instability to a developing Sandoval. giants fans simply just don't want Crede. At least most of them

I would think about $3 mil plus incentives would be reasonable. He is an underrated player, but I think a savvy GM should be able to turn the last two Crede seasons into a bargain signing for '09.

Crede and Renteria on the right side of the infield will be better than what the Giants had in 2008. Than Sandoval can play first base..nice partial lineup of good hitters
Rowand
Winn
Sandoval
Crede
Renteria
Molina
Manny ????

c Bengie Molina
fb Pablo Sanchez
sb Emmanuel Burriss
tb Edgar Renteria
ss Joe Crede

cfAaron Rowand
lf Fred Lewis
rf Randy Winn
of Nate Schierholtz

p Tim Lincecum
p Matt Cain
p Randy Johnson
p Barry Zito
p Jonathan Sanchez

cp Brian Wilson
r Jeremy Affeldt
r Bob Howry
r Sergio Romo
r Alex Hinshaw
r Jack Taschner

fb Pablo Sandoval

LOL Pablo Sanchez was that little kid who played in Backyard Baseball...

keep the giants rumors coming I'm loving it Sabean... I would love to have "one of the best clutch players of the past 5 years." haha

UPDATED VERSION

c Bengie Molina
fb Pablo Sandoval
sb Emmanuel Burriss
tb Joe Crede
ss Edgar Renteria

cf Aaron Rowand
lf Fred Lewis
rf Randy Winn
of Nate Schierholtz

p Tim Lincecum
p Matt Cain
p Randy Johnson
p Barry Zito
p Jonathan Sanchez

cp Brian Wilson
r Jeremy Affeldt
r Bob Howry
r Sergio Romo
r Alex Hinshaw
r Jack Taschner

UPDATED VERSION

LOL very sorry to take up so much space with my comments i was a little drunk today, just getting over it... once again sorry folks

It's good that the Giants are trying to build a competitive team. It will be nice to see some good teams in the NL West and get some offense for Tim Lincecum.

What do insightful statistics have to do with fantasy leagues? They're certainly more telling than the fan perception of "clutchness."

Do not like this move. Crede is OVERRATED. The Giants have had bad success in the recent memory with these types of free agents. Players with a history of injuries (BACK PROBLEMS), and would probably see him on the bench most of the year putting bubble gum bubbles on peoples hats without them knowing (we desperately need someone new to do that since Schmidt left). NOT WORTH IT. Stick with the youth movement (Big Unit gets a free pass).

Overrated may be the wrong phrase, but he simply cannot be counted on. His defense still hasn't recovered from his injury. If you look at his numbers from last season, he was very middle of the road

As a sox fan Tim, the reason why Crede is no longer a part of the White Sox is because of his back and his salary demand.

You should know that KW hates Boras, who was looking at a deal for Crede (Before the 08 season) that would be around 5yrs/50mil. Crede is a great defensive player, but he isn't all that young anymore and it seems that his back isn't keeping up with him.

As a Chicago guy you can compare Crede to Mike Brown of the Bears. A great player that just keeps getting injured which hurts the way people look at him.

here's a prediction.

the Giants pass on Crede because he's too big of an injury risk.

the pass on Manny because they just got used to "peace" in the club house (post BB :-)

in the end, we will find that this was all Boras hype done to stir the pot and generate more interest in his clients

Tim is absolutely right on this one. His value is in his defense. Fielding Bible has him ranked only under Beltre as the best defensive third basemen in baseball. His OBP is low, because he's a guy that doesn't look to walk. He also don't strike out much. He's a guy that sits on a pitch and swings. And the most important thing... He WANTS to play in SF. He wanted to last year, and I believe he'll wait for SF to give him an offer and he'll jump on board.

just to clarify....he plays 3rd base.

:-)

kuyote

YOU ARE AN ONLINE GIANTS FAN!!!!!!

Rolling Night Hawk - your constant lineup "updates" are obnoxious...and I'm not just talking about this string of comments. And btw, acronyms like TB and FB are usually reserved for football. Take a look at a box score sometime. FYI-
1B = First Base (what you refer to as FB)
2B = Second Base (what you refer to as SB...which is a stolen base in baseball)
3B = Third Base (what you refer to as TB)
At least you got SS right!

As for the topic at hand, as many people have said, I think Crede at $3M on a one year deal makes plenty of sense for the Giants. Having a slick glove at third is extremely valuable. I think back to the days of Matt Williams diving left and right snagging would-be singles and doubles from unsuspecting hitters. The giants haven't had any offense from that position in about 15 years anyway, so why not get some d out of it?

I can see it now

2009 comeback player of the year: Joe Crede lol

but seriously Crede could make a solid contribution to the team IF!!! he is healthy

notice i stress the word if

The Giants had a pitiful offense last season. So does it make sense to sign a player that you know isn't going to be even an average offensive player? I don't know if it matters how good defensively he is. They need offense to win.

As for comments by Svengoolie, at least he's here for humor. Openly admitting he doesn't want the better player in favor of an injury prone, below average offensive player.

The Giants have a hole on the leftside of the infield that would be filled qute nicely by Joe Crede. Offer him an incentive contract for 1-2 years which allows for the further development of Gillespie and Guzman. Sandoval plays first base in 2009. Sign Manny for three years as we have no power hitting outfielder in the hopper. This year, start looking for a shortstop, either by drafting college ready players or high school prospects. Renteria's good through 2010, so by 2011 we will need a shortstop.

Giants can't get both Crede/Manny. Payroll is already close to 90 mill. They'd have to trade Winn/Roberts AND Rowand.

Giants can't get both Crede/Manny. Payroll is already close to 90 mill. They'd have to trade Winn/Roberts AND Rowand.

hah have you seen the yanks payroll do you not realize their is no cap in baseball, are you that new and dumb?

People wonder why Yankee/Red Sox fans get in on every conversation...it is because of comments like soxsider4life's. A-Rod hasn't been clutch in the playoffs like Crede, but Crede isn't one of the best hitters in the league.

Jimmie, I meant other than myself of course. lol. A majority of my fellow Giants fans online want the Giants to sign nobody. Act like the money being spent is theirs, and put such high stock on minor league players that every other team in baseball knows isn't very good.

Crede for one year makes a lot of sense.

One thing I've noticed this off season is a lot of Freddie Lewis bashing. The guy is an awesome talent, and while I think Winn is great I'd take Freddie Lew over him anyday.

So please Giants fans, lets stop the Freddie Lew hating please.

Go GIANTS!!

Ohan,

Nobody is ragging on Fred Lewis, and what do you mean picking things up quickly? Fred Lewis is 28 years old, hardly a “prospect” in the Big Leagues. And he had an “okay” year, not a great year… He would have had a “good” year if he was an outstanding defensive second basemen. His power numbers wouldn’t have been that big of a deal, stole some bases, etc. However, he was not. He was a below average defensive Left Fielder. He had 9 home runs. That wouldn’t have hurt “as much” if the Giants had power from other positions and he was fine defensively. But Left Fielders are usually where your worst OF defenders play, simply because they’re usually in the field for their offense. Now, if Fred Lewis can play good defense in RF, hit .280+, 10 HR’s and steal some bases he’ll be an everyday player for the Giants. I’m personally not sure if he’ll be able to do such things, but would be nice.

55 saves lives?,

your initial post... Giants can't get both Crede/Manny. Payroll is already close to 90 mill. They'd have to trade Winn/Roberts AND Rowand.

your 2nd post...Deric,

Pull your head out! Giants aren't the Yankees!!!!!

Giants payroll has NEVER been above 90 mill. Salary cap has nothing to do with it!

If you're going to call somebody dumb, at least be educated!!

do you understand that a payroll like anything else in this crazy economy can fluctuate, all you have to do like many other prior teams is ask the investors for a larger payroll tell them you're going to have a winning team with adding these players and then they grant it... and its very easy to mistake your first post as a timid approach of avoiding a sal cap... I'm a sports management major buddy I'll school you all day if you wanna get into this ;)