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Braves Make Progress On Chipper Jones Extension

7:03pm:  According to MLB.com's Mark Bowman, the Braves are hoping to lock Jones up "until he has reached a stage in his career when he could be contemplating retirement."  That could mean several years.  As Chipper said Wednesday,

"I think I'm going to be as productive at 40 as I am now.  You're not going to be as spry in the legs as you were when you were 25, but you can still be productive." 

3:17pm: David O'Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution fills us in on a possible Chipper Jones extension:

Chipper and the Braves have made some progress toward a multi-year extension. He said a deal isn’t imminent, still work to be done, but he sounded encouraged by the talks they’ve had so far.

Jones, 37 in April, is eligible for free agency after the season.


Comments

He's good at baseball.

As a Braves fan this is the best baseball news I have heard this year.

"As a Braves fan this is the best baseball news I have heard this year."

Totally agree.

I would hope Frank would get him until at least through 2011, and then we will see where he is for 2012.

ridiculous. he is hurt all the time. im in GA and a braves fan and i would like nothing more than to see him traded to an AL team that needs a DH. hes great when he plays, but signing a 37 year old, frequently injured 3B to a multi-year deal is lunacy. it reflects one of the major problems with the atl front office - their irrational commitment to aging players. keith law put it best in a recent interview with talkingchop.com:

The obvious weakness is the lack of infield prospects, but I think there's a bigger organizational weakness: their excessive loyalty to certain players. Jeff Francoeur should have been non-tendered, and instead they're taking him to arbitration, even though he's about the worst "everyday" player in the game and seems to blame everyone but himself for his horrendous play. Tom Glavine is a damn charity case. He'd be their eighth- or ninth-best starting option if they sign him, assuming he can pick up a ball without hurting something. If I was Frank and he rejected my $1 million offer, my answer to their counteroffer with would end with "... and the horse you rode in on." Yet Atlanta is the team that can't say no to players with some sort of tie to the organization. They stood firm with San Diego in the Jake Peavy discussions; I wish they'd do the same with their own mediocre players and avoid a situation where Tommy Hanson is ready to come up in June but can't because it might hurt Lil' Tommy Glavine's feelings.

NO brainer chip will retire as a Braves no doubt!! 3/39M

There we go, FW. About time.

"Go on..."

Second.

Here's where the Lowe signing may hurt the Braves. Chipper will probably look at that 4/60 deal Lowe just got and say, I deserve at LEAST that.

Chipper should absolutely be extended and not traded.

Francoeur should have been non-tendered. I can't believe the Braves really want to pay him at least 2.8 million for 2009. I'd rather have Will Ohman.

"NO brainer chip will retire as a Braves no doubt!!"

Any Braves fan would've said the same about Smoltz a year ago.

gsulife

Please tell me how in your mind he is not an asset to the team. How would his production be replaced? Fangraphs.com has his worth at more than double his salary the last 2 years and more than his salary 5 out of the last 7 years!

And he does not get hurt in the field. If you watched Braves baseball at all you would know that all his injuries come from hitting and running the bases apart from that slip on a wet field in San Fran a few years ago.

so, hitting, running, and fielding... other than that he's fine!

Just kidding. I like Chipper and am sure the Braves will work something out with him. Probably with some incentives for modest plate-appearances.

gsulife...there's a big difference between Francoeur and Glavine and Chipper Jones. He produces more in the time he plays than most people do over the course of 162 games.

In 2005 and 2006 he only played like 110 games and according to Fangraphs was still worth $16 million each season.

Here's where the Lowe signing may hurt the Braves. Chipper will probably look at that 4/60 deal Lowe just got and say, I deserve at LEAST that.

Posted by: AtlantaBred | February 18, 2009 at 03:37 PM

Since when has Chipper ever been one to demand more money? His bent over backwards for the Braves financially, I doubt he would try to screw him during his final negotiations.

Keith Law, that cheerleader, has never had good things to say about Glav. Even while he was in NY.

While I like the extension, I hope it is nothing more than a 2-yr extension and a mutual option for 2012. He is oft injured though a producer when he is in the line-up. I would like for him to take a reduced salary, more around 10 million a year for the next 2 years. That can free up about 5 million next year and would give the Braves around 2-3 years to develop some infield players that could possibly take over at third and first.

I'd love to sign him through 2011 with a mutual option for 2012. He could play until he is 40+ though if you think about it.

When he retires, I wanna see Chipper back as a hitting coach or bench coach...anywhere they can find a spot. He is a career Brave that would be a valuable asset to the organization even after retirement.

If chipper can keep playing until 2011, it would be phenomenal.

J. Shafer/G. Hernandez
Escobar
Heyward
C. Jones
McCann
F. Freeman
Francoeur
Johnson

That could be sick. I know its a long time away, but its always fun to look ahead. I know we might now be the frontrunners for a world series in 09, but atleast we have a great looking future.

Go Braves.

"Tom Glavine is a damn charity case. He'd be their eighth- or ninth-best starting option if they sign him, assuming he can pick up a ball without hurting something."

He gets hurt once in his career and there are people "claiming" to be Braves fans that buy into Keith Law's opinions. Taking one injury and making it out to be something much worse than that is ridiculous. His non-tendering of Francoeur is closer to the mark but still we have to give the guy one more shot. He is young and can bounce back easily. Listening to moronic opinions only creates more morons.

If Braves can extend Chipper for what he's getting now, they still should have some money coming off the payroll at the end of 2009 -- even if they pick up Hudson's option.

I see Vazquez being traded if Hanson's indeed the real deal, Francoeur being dealt or non-tendered, Soriano cut loose. That's about $20 million right there.

"When he retires, I wanna see Chipper back as a hitting coach or bench coach...anywhere they can find a spot. He is a career Brave that would be a valuable asset to the organization even after retirement."

It would be cool to see him come in as a coach. When Bobby retires, Terry can take the helm and Chipper can take over for Terry with Eddie Perez as bench coach.

Chipper is the face of this franchise and a team leader who has sacrificed in the past for the good of the team.

He is worth more than he makes just for those characteristics alone, not to mention his ACTUAL baseball abilities. The man's a master hitter and above average defender.

Even if he only plays 110 games a year, he is still better than any other option at third base, in my opinion.

Sign him to a three year extension and throw in one of those Brett Favre-like deals where he can be with the team for another 20 years in some capacity. He can take over for Hank Aaron as the Brave's ambassador.

i would say that chipper should be our manager right when he retires, or hitting coach, he would be exceptional at both

I just hope that they don't sign him for more than 2 - 3 years. He is just too old and injury prone to get a long term contract.

david o'brien cant be considered a liable source

Keith Law is paid to have a colorful opinion, and it would make sense to have it on a player that is of small enough consequences that no one will call him out if and when he is wrong. The facts are if he thinks this is a bad signing he should be pimp slapping Epstein who made 2 much worse signings (Smoltz and Penny). Yes they have more upside, but their base salary is more than Glavine will most likely be able to earn through incentives, and Smoltz won't even be available to pitch until June. Glavine is a gamer who takes the ball and throws every fifth day like clock work for his entire career until last year. Law saying "assuming he can even pick up a ball without hurting something" is a ridiculous low blow, and from a guy who usually bases his comments on facts and stats it says to me that there is some other reason he doesn't like Glavine. I hate the idea of blocking Hanson, but Glavine isn't the mistake Kawakami was.

Epstein is a brilliant GM. He knows that he has the depth in his rotation to sign Smoltz and Penny and afford to have them on payroll while they rehab, he should certainly do it. Those were smart signings. Penny and Smoltz are really going to help out that rotation down the stretch.

"david o'brien cant be considered a liable source"

Yep. Fun to read his insights on the blog, but way too many "this will happens" that haven't come true for him to be taken seriously.

I hope that Chipper's contract will be completed soon. Chipper is one heck of a ball player and is a credit to the Braves organization.

I love seeing everyone up to their nuts in Chippers guts.

I hope the extension goes through Chipper at 37 is still on top of his game and is a definite HOF.

I don't see how Keith Laws comments can even come close to applying to a guy like Chip. Sure he's old, but he's going to be waaaay more productive then Glavine ever will and prob worth at least 2wins more then him too.

I dont think Kawakami was the mistake. He will be right next to Lowe with the nastiest stuff on the staff its just a matter of adjustment. I think he can be right behind Dice-k in a few seasons.

Chipper's deal should be a 3/30 type or 2/20, personally i prefer the 3/30.

I think he can be right behind Dice-k in a few seasons.


Pretty strong statement plus he'll be a free agent and 36 years old.

OK, here's my general opinion on David O'Brien. Everything he proclaims to be factual is generally factual. Actually I'll go farther, everything that he said he heard is always right. He doesn't make up lies, if he wrote that someone in the Braves FO said X, they said X. However, his insights into what his sources say are wrong more than they're right.

For instance, this would be an example of what I'm talking about. Please keep in mind I'm making this up.

DOB Says: "I was talking to Chipper Jones yesterday and he said that he really likes Felix Hernandez and thinks the Braves could get a deal for him done."

In this case, Chipper would've really said that. However, DOB would probably follow that line with something like:

"This tells me that the Braves will probably make a trade for Felix Hernandez within a week".

That's speculation, and his speculation is generally wrong.

He's a good reporter because he's plugged into the Braves and he gets a lot of good blurbs. However, his speculation is usually wrong.

"Tom Glavine is a damn charity case. He'd be their eighth- or ninth-best starting option if they sign him, assuming he can pick up a ball without hurting something. If I was Frank and he rejected my $1 million offer, my answer to their counteroffer with would end with "... and the horse you rode in on."

Honestly, I think Law is right here.

Do people honestly believe that Glavine, after the way he looked the past two seasons, would really make the rotation?

Lowe, Vazquez, Jurrjens, Kawakami and Campillo/Morton/Reyes/Parr

While I don't believe that Glavine is worse than all of these guys, I really don't think he'd beat out Campillo or Morton for the fifth starter spot.

Glavine was really, really awful in 2008, his FIP was over six. While I realize that he wasn't 100%, I just see no reason to give him good guaranteed money after that kind of performance, at his age.

And as much as people here want to bash Law for his opinions, the guy is extremely intelligent and educated, and he has good evidence to back up every argument he makes. Obviously he's not always right, nobody is, but he's one of the best baseball minds available to the public.

Imo it's going to be a mistake for the Braves to give him anything more than a two year extension. I like Chipper well enough but I can't see how he's going to be worth $10+ million dollars in a couple years. The guy can hit and play a passable defense but he just isn't healthy enough to do it regularly, and in two years it's only going to get worse while at the same time his hitting skills will have declined considerably. Chipper isn't on steroids and right now he's at the age where everyone before steroids came along would hit the wall and decline. Some declined slowly, some hit a wall, but they all declined. Expecting Chipper to still be an asset in four years is not a good idea and it would be a poor use of assets.

chipper isnt that good he hit 248 just two years ago and he is always hurt david wright is much better

Thank God for people like Chipper

chipper isnt that good he hit 248 just two years ago and he is always hurt david wright is much better
Posted by: metsin08 | February 18, 2009 at 07:02 PM


Haha your fixin to get your ass grilled

jus pointing out the stats dude injured players like him shouldnt be in the hall of fame a big part of the hof is durability i could play 25 seasons in the majors if i only had to get 50 abs

All this talk of an extension is coming from one side - the PLAYER. Chipper's been running his mouth all offseason, about all kinds of things.

Get back to me when management actually has something to say about it.

"Law saying "assuming he can even pick up a ball without hurting something" is a ridiculous low blow, and from a guy who usually bases his comments on facts and stats it says to me that there is some other reason he doesn't like Glavine. "

You're right. Keith Law grew up on Long Island and is a Mets fan to this day. KLaw is just getting revenge for that last 1/3 of an inning "Tommy" threw for the Mets in 07.

"jus pointing out the stats dude injured players like him shouldnt be in the hall of fame a big part of the hof is durability i could play 25 seasons in the majors if i only had to get 50 abs"

You do realize that Chipper has played in at least 109 games and had at least 425 plate appearances in every season since 1995?

He played in 156+ games in eight straight seasons from 1996-2003.

Chipper is simply getting old, but the guy was never a major injury risk and was an elite player for years. If Chipper gets into the hall, I'd have no qualms.

Sorry scribbletone, but Chipper WAS an elite player? I'm pretty sure he's just about as elite now as he's ever been. He just finished off a season where he finished 4th in value wins despite missing extensive time, and the year before that he was 8th. When everything is said and done he should go down as one of the 3 best offensive 3B off all time and a no doubt HOF. Seriously how can you question the HOF candidacy of a 3B with a .310/.408/.548 line?

Right. Obviously. Didn't mean to imply that Chipper is no longer an elite player.

Don't worry, I'm on your side. Chipper is one of the all team greats.

he is always hurt tho players who cant be counted on shouldnt get in the hof i dont care if his line were 400/500/800

"he is always hurt tho players who cant be counted on shouldnt get in the hof i dont care if his line were 400/500/800"

So you basically 100% ignored my comment four comments above this.

Chipper Jones is not always hurt. You are wrong.

Metins08...injuries are an unavoidable part of the game when it comes to players that don't take seroids to help avoid/come back from injury.

Don't compare David Wright to Chipper Jones... Yes Wright is a great 3B, but wait about 10 years before you even think about comparing him to Chipper. I do understand your hatred for Chip though...he's a stinkin MET-KILLER!

As a Mets fan i despise Chipper. However i respect the hell out of him. He is tremendous player who has not taken PEDs, and as a baseball fan i respect that.

Way to go kdmarkum. You hit the mark "he's a stinkin MET-KILLER".

.310 career avg, thats all i gotta say

I read most of the emails above and feel that most of you are 100% wrong about Chipper! He deserve every cent and more that The Braves paid for him. Non of you have played a 180 game plus season, most of you get hurt in a 10 game season in softball. I personaly know Chipper and he is the real deal, he will be in the HOF first ballet!

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