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KingMayan, you can thank your GM for those bad contracts that have hamstrung the organization. Imagine what the Dodgers could have done this offseason without Schmidt, Pierre and Jones on the books. Imagine if the Dodgers had a good GM who would have had money to spend in this market.

does anybody no wat the site was that breaks down teams payrolls? i remember reading it on mlbtraderumors a few months ago but forgot to save the link.

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thanks studio

The Dodgers will sign Manny and Wolf, which will make them competitive in the NL West, which is all FrankenNeddy seem capable of doing. If they were smart gamblers they'd sign Sheets too, but they aren't.

Cutme,

Oh God I totally agree! I have been saying pretty much that exact thing to anybody who even has a passing interest in the Dodgers. Is Sheets' price tag that high that they can't take a gamble? If Ned can sign Sheets for cheap and he breaks down, it would still be a better deal than Schmidt or Jones. I don't see why they wouldn't even look at him. To me Sheets, with his market being only the Rangers at this point, is a very low risk and very high reward gamble considering what they are looking to pay for Wolf who, when healthy, isn't all that great.

Also, I would rather of resigned Lowe than any other pitcher on the market (and that includes CC--due to the cost and # of years), he is exactly what our rotation needs. Then sign Wolf and the rotation is set, solid is an understatement! But oh well, coulda, shoulda, woulda.

Throw in Sheets to a Dodgers roto with Wolf to, and you have a deeper playoff run.

"I am not a giants fan, I just wish they would sign manny and win the division so geeks like u would open your eyes, and see that the McCourts don't care if the dodgers win or lose cuz he does he has geeks like u coming to the games and spending mula!"

Contradictory. Need I say more? No true Dodger fan would root for the Giants in any way, shape, or form! Never no matter what! Would you ever see a BoSox fan say something like, "well I hate the Yankees but I sure hope they sign Tex and win the division just to show all the Red Sox fans a lesson." Hell no, that guy would be in a pool of his own blood before he got the sixth word out! You have no argument and seem to get more and more ignorant with each post. A difficult feat considering the sheer ignorance to tend to exude with each and every post. I am insulted that you would even compare me to you. You are a Giants fan disguising yourself as a Dodgers fan, while I BLEED EFFING BLUE! I will always support the Dodgers, they are my team! I don't care what the owners do or what the dense GM does, I still love the team and all that the franchise has accomplished over the years. Go back to San Fran and stop trying to make yourself out to be a Dodgers fan.

BTW, learn a new word, because Geek is getting old (seems to be in each and every one of your posts that I have read).

cheba63,

I see your point, I just don't feel that he is the #2 we need until Kershaw gets another year or two under his belt. Kuroda could be considered a #2 on some other teams, but a team like the Dodgers that does not score many runs depends quite heavily on their overall pitching staff (starting rotation and pen). So, for the Dodgers he is a good #3. Hell, I hope he pitches like a #2 in 2009. That would be great and maybe the combo of him improving (due to league adjustment/becoming more comfortable in the MLB, etc.) and Kershaw's maturation process will be enough to have a solid rotation. I don't know though. I want a bit more stability.

In regard to Lowe, he did get a high salary, but he is as consistent as they come. You know what you are going to get from him year in and year out. I don't see any reason why he can't pitch well into his 40s. He is not a power pitcher and never has been, that is why he has never been on the DL. I see him as more of a Maddux type pitcher where he relies on his control (and of course his sinker). I understand that he wanted to go somewhere that would give him more run support, but I would have liked to see Colletti at least make an attempt to resign him.

"yeah the draft pick is a risk but LA already received compensation for the loss of Lowe right? So they aren't forfeiting any additional picks, unless they really have somebody scouted that they are counting on heavily."

The Dodgers do not get the Braves first round pick for Lowe because it is protected. So we would surrender our first round pick unless someone else signs Manny (which I hope does not happen).

I love the dodgers, but this year their going too far, with all those comments and crying about the economy and all! No fan deserves to feel sorry for these owners, cuz they don't feel sorry for u! Last two years I had partial season tickets( even though they had a crappy team until manny) but this year no way!

Kingmayo,

You sure that you weren't in San Fran in McCovey Cove waiting to catch any HR balls? I could have sworn I saw a blithering idiot in a raft out there with his helmet and a Bonds jersey. I'm sure that was you! Sorry, your cover is officially blown!

You know Cutme, I'm starting to come into your camp that I wouldn't mind surrendering our 1st round draft pick. #17 sounds great, but anything lower than around the #10 pick isn't a surefire deal.

At this point we have about, what is it, three or four other picks within the next two rounds anyways? So why not sign Sheets and Wolf and solidify our rotation? Wolf seems to be healthy enough (179.2IP, 33 starts, at around 4.30 ERA, while 3.57 in hitter friendly Houston), and would fit in nicely as a #3 or #4 in the rotation. Sheets would be a perfect #2 for our rotation. I wouldn't mind taking a gamble on the guy for a one year deal. Maybe up the guaranteed amount of money to around $8-10 million, plus incentives, to entice him. Plus he would be downright filthy in the weaker NL West.

"Well I practically had a career at the age of 17 so I didn't go, maybe later!"

As what, A Giants Mascot or something? I guess you would be fit for such a position with such a low intelligence level. Oh well, I guess you can try again later!

MrBlake,

Don't get me wrong, I am aware that our farm system is a shell of what it once was, but eventually we will have to trade some players which should net some prospects. And as you mentioned, we will get a number of other draft picks this year. This should rebuild our farm system.

I agree that adding Sheets, Wolf and Manny would easily win the West and hopefully get us deeper into the playoffs than last year. Based on what is left on the market, I feel that this is the best possible combination of players for the Dodgers. It makes sense, but I'm not at all convinced that Colletti and McCourt are going to take this route though. I hope I am wrong, but I'm afraid I'm not.

Cutme,
Do you get your jolly's off of trying to make fun of someone? Isn't this supposed to be about Baseball and not your LOW self-esteem?

I'm sure all Dodger fans are so proud of you!

Fair enough, you appeared to be a bully, my bad.

Teddyballgame,

Thanks for being rational. If you look back at our (mine and Kingmayo's) conversation, you will see signs of this. I started off by making a joke and he had to make it personal (as usual). All of us Dodger fans have had it with this guy. I honestly believe that he is a Giants fan trying to infuriate all of us Dodger fans. Its really frustrating because he is deliberately trying to associate anything Dodgers with a negative connotation. Thanks for understanding, the last thing I want is to offend anyone else. I just am so frustrated with this guy I have to respond to his posts.

All the dodgers are frustrated with this guy! Most of the dodgers fans feel the way I feel! Ur a joke cutmepuss! I made it personal; how????

"Here he goes again! Kingmayonnaise (I wish that I would have thought of that but I saw someone else call him that and found it quite fitting) will continually bash the Dodgers no matter what happens. Besides, there is evidence linking his allegiance to the Gnats anyway."

My first post, which was a joke. And now your response:

"Cutmepuss, I don't know how mayonnaiseis fitting to me, I'm not slimmy or white. Somehow you always agree with me but put it in nicer words, weird! I am not a giants fan, I just wish they would sign manny and win the division so geeks like u would open your eyes, and see that the McCourts don't care if the dodgers win or lose cuz he does he has geeks like u coming to the games and spending mula! I'll be supporting the dodgers at home!"

Name-calling (your usual line of defense) for starters.

Then I respond by accusing you of being a Gnats fan (which I still believe), and you respond with this:

"Did your blood pressure go up there geek?"

Another name, and personal attack.

Then I had enough and unleashed on you. I stared off by poking fun at you and then you responded (as you normally do) by attempting to personally attack me.

"All the dodgers are frustrated with this guy! Most of the dodgers fans feel the way I feel! Ur a joke cutmepuss! I made it personal; how????"

Ummm, no, they don't. You refer to anyone who uses stats or logic as a "geek". You continually bash the Dodgers young players as "average" even though the majority of the starters were the 2005 minor league team of the year (Martin, Loney, Young, Abreu, Bills, Stults, Kuo, Broxton). That's against players their own age. You forget that this collection of talent is still VERY young and is just beginning to scratch the surface of their talent.
You will criticize Bills as not being good because he didn't pitch well against the Phillies in the NLCS, even though he pitched 64 more innings this season that in any other season... his K/9 rate was 9.00... pretty damn impressive for a 23 year old.
You criticize Kemp because he strikes out a lot, forgetting that he's 23 and was playing in his first full season in the major leagues... and was ranked as having the strongest arm in baseball for an OF. You say the Dodgers players are "just average" and all I can think about is that Clayton Kershaw isn't even old enough to drink, yet is a league average pitcher. Talk about young talent!

As for McCourt and Ned, real Dodger fans can't stand them. But we know that logan White has some pull in the organization, and not only is responsible for all of the young talent on the roster, but has been able to keep them on the Dodgers, despite Ned's seemingly flawless ability to trade away all our touted prospects for crap.
REAL Dodger fans support their team and look for the bright side. They believe that DESPITE McCourt being cheap, the talent on the team will be competitive. And if they aren't? Well, being a fan means supporting your favorite team even in the dark years.

King Mayan, you're not a fan. You're just a dumb kid who regurgitates whatever it is you hear on talk radio or on the news. You're obsessed with how players performed in September and are convinced that's how they'll always be. Too bad you didn't watch the Dodgers in 2007 or you'd be saying James Loney was the only good Dodgers and everyone else sucked.

No Dodger fan agrees with you. Yes, we hate the McCourts. We hate that they are nickel and diming one of the most proud organizations in baseball so they can buy another house. But what are we going to do about it? We can only hope that Logan White continues to draft talent, the kids grow up to their full potential, and Juan Pierre goes missing on February 13th. We will not bash the team and stop supporting the team because we are fans. And fans love their team. And we (well, the intelligent ones) also don't go around calling everyone a "geek" because they talk about what the scouts project players to be or cite statistics to make a point.

So grow up, contribute to the conversation or stop posting. We know you hate the McCourts. We know you aren't going to support the Dodgers. Stop repeating it.

"As for this pitching issue, I've been on the Sheets bandwagon all offseason. I think that the main issue between Sheets vs. draft pick really should come down to Manny. If the Dodgers are going to sign Manny, they have 3 years to use Manny's talents to win the World Series. A draft pick isn't going to help for 3-5 years. And it's not like there's David Price, Mark Prior or Ryan Zimmerman waiting at #17 for us. So with Furcal and Blake signed for 3 years, and Manny signed for 2 or 3, why not sign the pitcher who has been the most dominant while on the mound? Give up a draft pick for the year. He's not guaranteed to make it to the big leagues anyways at #17. Sheets will dominate. We have depth for a DL stint (as Stults showed by throwing a CG last season). Make a run at the World Series over the next 3 years. By the time Manny retires, the kids will be in their prime and used to winning. It could be like the Yankees dynasty of the late 90's."

This paragraph sums up my entire argument! As usual, I completely agree. Who's to say that we will get a better prospect with our first round pick than we will with our supplementary sandwich pick we get from Lowe. At some point you have to shift your focus from the future to now! That time is now for the Dodgers! Half of our roster is homegrown so we have a lot of time to rebuild our farm system and one of the best scouts in baseball to help us do it (Logan White). I still say that if he was our GM we would return to our days as one of the greatest franchises in baseball.

I really don't see much competition for the Dodgers in 09 so the back of their rotation shouldn't be a huge concern. A concern? Yes but not a big one. What team in the west has improved themselves this offseason? Im trying to think of one right now and I can't. I really don't think Renteria was a good signing for the Giants and the D-backs are losing Dunn, Hudson, Randy Johnson and gaining what Felipe Lopez and Garland? Sign Manny he is the Dodgers main concern. Come playoff time go to a 3 or 4 man rotation. Bills and Kershaw have the stuff to be a 1-2 knockout punch in the playoffs and Manny makes that lineup go round. Who is going to be asked to be the big bat if they don't sign Manny? Kemp? Loney? These are stars in the making but they still need a couple more season to be run producing middle of the order THREATS.

could the dodgers sign sheets for 2 years 6 mill per or 2 years 4 per

"hahahahaha! I'm not bully, if anything I only beat up bullies! And I'm not getting pissed off, come on man, I have been thru crazier sshit than writing with some geek! Hahahaha! You a joke! U got your bed buddie dodgerbruin proctecting u!!"

I don't even need to respond to this to prove my point. What are you like 12? It's getting pretty late and tomorrow is a school night so you may want to get to bed soon.

What happened to the rumors of Wolf signing with the Cubs?