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Cardinals Shopping Greene

Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe mentions the Cardinals are trying to trade Khalil Greene, who is struggling mightily in a contract year as a result of reported anxiety problems. Whenever a shortstop hits the block, it seems the Boston media has to consider the possibility. The position has been a black hole for the team since 2004. Cafardo says:

"The Cardinals are shopping Khalil Greene, and have inquired with the Sox about their interest. Greene is hitting .210 with two homers and 14 RBIs and has committed six errors. Bobby Crosby is hovering around .200 in Oakland. Are either the answer? The Sox appear to have enough offense that obtaining a defensive specialist could tide them over."

While a change of scenery may be what Greene needs, Boston may not be the best fit given the anxiety problems. Still, Cafardo explores the option because "frustration is beginning to build among other Sox players" due to poor defense from Julio Lugo and Nick Green. With his struggles, the Cardinals will have to eat some of his $6.5MM salary.

Jed Lowrie is expected back from wrist surgery after the All Star break.


Comments

How are the Mets not even mentioned here? They have a depleted team right now full of injuries and short stop is one of those positions. So that being said they have to be at least interested... From a Red Sox standpoint however i don't think they are going to make that kind of a trade. Nick Green has been a pleasant surprise for them and his defense yesterday was actually very solid. Lugo is a starting shortstop by trade and is perfectly capable of holding down the job until Jed Lowrie gets back.

The Mets maybe BUT the pressure of being in NY might come against him unless hes a defensive replacement.
Boston would be a bad fit because of the anxiety, unless he comes in for defense there too..
I bet Greene goes to a small market club like KC, Seattle or something like that (that is if he plays everyday)

There is no reason for the Sox to make a trade here. Think about it, if they do make the trade, when Lowrie comes back they'll have FOUR SS! (Lowrie, Lugo, Green and Greene).

Get a cheap guy like Keppinger to solve this. There's no point in trading for Crosby and Greene.

Greene needs to go somewhere with a little less pressure and media coverage. The Mets and Sox are not answers to this.

I suffer from anxiety problems at times and its not something to take lightly. Several professional athletes have had their careers ruined by it.

Well there is an offseason move that was a wash, except the Padres are paying for it. Mark Worrell is out for the year having Tommy John, and Greene continued his implosion. Luke Gregerson hasnt been much either, but at least he is performing alright in SD's pen.

The only way anyone trades for Greene is if the Cards eat pretty much the majority of his salary.

His UZR/150 has declined in each of the past four years, 6.3, -3.1, -11.0, and a brutal -21.3 this season.

Not to mention that he's become pretty much worthless with the bat. He's a big time fly ball hitter that essentially tries to smack every pitch, so his plate discipline is inconsistent, and all of his power disappeared last year.

I'm not sure if anyone would really want to move anything for Greene at this point.

I would like to see him disappear from STL. I know we wouldn't get hardly anything back (nor do I expect much).

Greene isn't worth the gamble and with their current glut I wouldn't expect Boston to make a shortstop trade unless for a high-quality player, which is unlikely given the SS market. Trading for a DH is another matter, though. They won't release Papi but as unsavory as having a $12M player sitting the bench may sound it would be even worse to continue playing him at his present level of nonproduction...which essentially means an almost automatic out for the most important power slot in the batting order. Not exactly a winning strategy, especially in the AL East.

Even with decent pitching, and no matter how good the Sox are in other positions, they won't be good enough to make the playoffs with a crippled top of the order and poor infield defense. They knew that last year when their SS situation was already iffy, another bat IN ADDITION TO Papi was needed, when Papi's hitting was already suspect for the new season AND when bargain-priced hitters were available for the asking. The term mismanagement might be a bit strong here but saying they exercised poor judgement and foresight certainly isn't out of line.

If 3rd or 4th place is Boston's final resting place this season they'll only have themselves to blame.

Mr. Boyle,
"Black hole?" Excuse me sir, but have you forgot about David Eckstein? Batted near or over .300 from 2005-2007. He was the World Series MVP for God's sake. That is more than what most shortstops can say. I agree that Izturis was certainly a black hole (actually my nickname for him). However, I would ask that you amend your post to correct this egregious statement about Eckstein, though I realize you most likely will not.

The Mets NEED to pick up a salary dump type shortstop. Bobby Crosby and Khalil Greene are both available and better than Ramon Martinez and Alex Cora (why the hell did this guy get guaranteed money).

Why would ANYONE make this trade? Greene's only upside WAS his defense & that's in decline. I'm sorry, but I would think that most every team has better in-house options than Greene. Yeah Kid, I couldn't agree more: a Boston trade makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Lowrie'll be back soon enough & might as well just suck it up with Green for the time being.

I believe the black hole comment was directed toward the Boston SS position.

I bet Greene goes to a small market club like KC, Seattle or something like that (that is if he plays everyday)
Posted by: TripleHHH

what about greene, clayton mortensen, bryan anderson,and Daniel Descalso to seattle for adrian beltre and jarod washburn... then the mariners trade betancourt, branyan and either anderson or clement to boston for michael bowden.

i like to idea of greene in seattle, i think a change of scenery could help him, and as a seattle fan, i would do anything to get rid of betancourt. st louis gets beltre to play third with rolen out. beltre is starting to heat up and washburn gives them a solid starter who has pitched well this season and when he gets offense, he usually holds the lead. boston gets a shortstop (that they need desperately) and a young left handed catcher to take over for varetek, and i think all boston fans know what happened last time the mariners gave them a catcher ie: see jason varetek brayan takes over at first for a year until lars anderson is ready. bowden and mortensen move into the seattle rotation to replace washburn and bedard (when he is traded) giving them a rotation of felix, bowden, ryan rowland smith, mortensen and jason vargas until next year when gm jack signs ben sheets.

i meant branyan takes over at dh for big crapi... sorry

y dont they just trade for J.J. Hardy? he is a great defensive and offensive player, they could put penny in the deal as well as a prospect or two because the brewers need pitching

delonge-

why would the Cards want to trade 3 players under control for a long time and Greene for two players who would be 4 month rentals??? That does not make sense for the Cards. I am sure the Mariners would love that trade.

Not to mention Beltre has not done too much thus far this season...

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