Giants Not Dangling Cain, Not Interested In Holliday

Thank God about not dangling Cain!!! I don't think it would take much too get Uggla from the Marlins....they want prospects or players who aren't salary arbitration eligble yet....maybe Burris with one of our P in the minors would do. Too bad about Holliday though...I really like him....but I think they are going after a big player in the off season this year anyways.....someone too build around...either that or trade for a bat like a Prince Fielder or Miguel Cabrera....that would be nice...Uggla alone won't do it folks....

Remember, the Giants are a big market team.....lets be a big fish in the pond like the Red Sox, Yanks, Mets and go after the right pieces....not some scrapheap players.

When the dust finally clears, Holliday will look like a solid, valuable player but not a super-star. Maybe the A's ought to try to extend him with a reasonable contract. Holliday might not want to hit free agency in this economy with the stigma that Type A status has become.

sfgiants fan, you really are delusional. It won't take much to get Uggla? Loria knows a good draft chip when he sees it, and Uggla can bring so much more than Burriss and a minor league pitcher. Why should he settle for that? All offseason, Cardinals fans were speculating if they could get Uggla for Rasmus, and you're offering Burriss? Think the Angels are happy with Kendrick? Maybe they offer Wood for Uggla straight up. Twins and White Sox are dying for some offense, and both could come up with better than Burriss and a minor league pitcher (unless that minor league pitcher was Alderson or Bumgarner). Seriously, Burriss has an OPS around 600.

And to think you were the one calling me out about not knowing what I'm talking about.

thank you mstrchef13, sfgiantsfan just thinks that his team can get anyone for cheap and sell off their players for a ton

TripleHHH...

Giants should get them BOTH.

Sanchez for Uggs
Matos/Hinshaw for Johnson.

Marlin fans and thier owner are putting way to much value on Uggla, a 250 hitter at best, with some power. Even J. Sanchez for him is too much now.

Does anyone know why Dallas McPherson isn't on the Fresno Grizzlies (AAA) roster yet? The guy signed over a month ago...

If Sabean traded Cain for less than a Grady Sizemore, Ryan Braun, or Evan Longoria type, I think there may be riots in the streets of SF. They should absolutely not trade Cain. As for Dan Uggla, if we could get him on the cheap, that would be cool. The Giants already have guys hitting .250 and below. Somebody said get Nick Johnson and Dan Uggla; I'm a sucker for big trades, so I'd be stoked.Terrible Defense at 2B, with some power but a low average, and then a dude who has been raking and plays great defense at 1B. His homeruns will go down, but he's got plenty of pop to hit the gaps. As long as they didn't give up Cain, Lincecum, Alderson, or Bumgarner I'd be fine.

The reason why Matt Cain is so attractive (even moreso than Santana or CC at time of trade) is because of his ridiculously cheap contract.

Cain is due about 13M for the remainder of this season and next 2 years of his service, after which he will command a draft pick in return for anybody signing him. For the price of about 25 starts for CC, you get 2.5 years of Matt Cain.

That is the reason why Matt Cain will command a king's ransom for his services in return. He is a legitimate #2 starter that is CHEAP, something you don't find very often these days.

Also Boomer, Sanchez has not pitched himself out of the starting staff.....A young lefthanded strikeout pitcher is a valuable asset and could be had for Uggla...Last year was his first year as a starter and had 157 K's in 158 IP and was the NL Pitcher of the Month last June. Plus he's not even making a % of what Uggla is....if you don't think its about $$ like some of the morons on here (Marlins Dynasty) your as crazy as BigFish (another Loser who talks crap but doesn't say anything).

Name a better power hitting second baseman besides utley. i think uggla is better than an erratic left hander whose walked 28 in 38inn and I believe pitched himself out of the san fran rotation

Posted by: Boomer | May 25, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Cano
Kinsler
Hill
Weeks

And those guy hit for adv too. Not to mention they all have better gloves. And they are all faster'

haha sfgiantsfan, im the crazy one? haha youre the one putting out ridiculous trades that it would take to get cain

barroid gets my point and for kinsler look at his stats away from the launching pad in texas .167/.223/.333 and hes far from a gold glove caliber 2nd baseman

haha maybe if they were to take on judas and his salary

barroid..the Marlins aren't getting "a front line starter" for Uggla..get that straight

^^^oh ya forgot about cano and weeks

I never said they would get one just for Uggla. If you noticed all the trade I've proposed have included Uggla + Cantu or a MLB ready pitcher like Vanden Hurk, Tucker, etc..... No one has suggested it would be Uggla for Cain straight up. Everyone just jumps to conclusions.

Here is a question "theguy9" name a 2B that has hit 27+ HR's in 3 consecutive years? Have fun trying to come back with an answer besides Uggla.

Uggla last year ranked 5th in the NL with a .985 fielding percentage. Uggla finished 6th in RZR and second in OOZ at second base in the NL.

RZR is the revised zone rating and is the proportion of balls hit into a fielder's zone that he converts to outs.

OOZ is the total number of outs made outside of his zone.

"Here is a question "theguy9" name a 2B that has hit 27+ HR's in 3 consecutive years? Have fun trying to come back with an answer besides Uggla."

i asked 1st nice job sidestepping the question and i never said he couldnt hot for power as he has proven he can

however da point is home runs arnt everything his fielding sucks his obp is astrocious and if this season isnt any idication he def wont be hitting 4 avarage anytime soon.

so yes he may hit hr's but hes no brian roberts, robinson cano, ect ect and he's def no chase utley

id take any three of those over uggla

now barroid can u answer my question

"name a starting second basemen with a worse average than uggla atm?)

To shed some light on the Uggla saga... We all know he has power, but statistically a trade strait up for sanchez would be fair for both teams... (If each team needs that position/player)

Uggla-
.200 ba, .321 obp, .413 slg, 39 K's, 64 TB, 8HR, 30 Rbi...

His batting average, obp, and slg, are behind Aaron Hill, Orlando Hudson, Dustin Pedroia, Felipe Lopez, Freddy Sanchez, Asdrubal Cabrera, Robinson Cano, Iwamura, Callaspo, Schumaker, Roberts, Utley, and on and on... To say that the trade wouldn't be fair for the marlins is moronic, he is a power hitting second baseman, that is it.. end of story, defensive liability and terrible obp.

He is currently 6th in HR (2nd base only) and 5th in RBI's... So he does have some upside.

Sanchez- 2-4 with a 4.6 ERA, 43 K...

Started off very mediocre, but could be a 4-5 starter on every team in the league... Has huge upside as a strikeout lefty...

All in all, If i were the GM's I would pull the trigger, strait across...

"name a starting second basemen with a worse average than uggla atm?)

that's pointless this early, but i'll counter

name a starting center fielder with a worst average than grady sizemore? i guess hes trash.

Last two years?

Cain Career:
114 games, 3.63 era, 2/1 k/bb which is improving, and last but not least, he is 24!

Cain for Uggla is not going to be considered by anyone who has seen both play.

Sanchez does have upside, but has not proven any type of consistency.

I'm thinking Sanchez for Weeks? why not, the giants are not a real contender and if this can heal like his other wrist Weeks may be worth waiting for..this depends on the Brewer's staying in a tight race for their division.

chew on it, let is stew, or not

DO NOT trade Cain... I much rather see top pitching prospects go instead, or if we must.... let Wilson go (I wouldn't feel like this if he wasn't so shaky, DEVELOP ANOTHER PITCH!!!). That's how important Cain is to this staff.