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Matt Wieters Update

Matt Wieters began the season as baseball's number one prospect, but we haven't heard much about him so far in 2009. Some took notice when he missed a bit of time because of a hamstring issue, but his season at AAA Norfolk has mostly been quiet. He's played well, though not incredibly, hitting one homer and batting .297/.391/.405 with 12 walks and 17 strikeouts. Gregg Zaun and Chad Moeller have combined for only 21 hits in 100 at bats for the O's, so they're not blocking Wieters' path. His main obstacle is time.

  • If the Orioles called Wieters up today, he'd accumulate enough service time this year (almost 150 days) to become a Super Two player. This means he'd cost the Orioles more money in the future because he'd go to arbitration four times.
  • If they wait until June 1st to call Wieters up, he won't accumulate more than 126 days service time. This would likely prevent him from becoming a Super Two and would likely save the Orioles millions of dollars in years ahead.
  • Waiting until June 1st or later also allows the Orioles to make sure Wieters is ready for the majors when he arrives. They can endure their soft-hitting catchers this year, because they're not a contender, so it would be a surprise to see the prospect called up soon.


Comments

I think that waiting until June 1st is a no-brainer for the Orioles.

Preventing Wieters from becoming a Super Two will end up saving the organization millions of dollars during arbitration, and the motivations to call him up are minimal.

He's playing well in AAA, but he's not exactly destroying it to the extent that he simply doesn't belong there at all whatsoever.

The Orioles won't come close to contending this year with their pitching, regardless of if Wieters plays 110 games or 95 games.

The long term benefits of keeping Wieters in AAA far outweigh the negatives.

Who gets called up first. Matt Wieters or David Price?

I'll go with Price.

I'll say Wieters.

Price already has accumulated some service time last year, so this year, he will need to be held back longer than Wieters to avoid Super-2. I really think that despite what the Rays say, $$$ is the major factor here.

As long as Wieters gets called up soon enough to compete for ROY, I'll be satisfied.

The AL ROY is looking weak this year so that is good.

"The AL ROY is looking weak this year so that is good."

Now don't get me wrong, as a Jays fan I'm well aware of why it's a smokescreen so far and don't expect it to continue, but I laugh at that sentence. If any American team had a 30 year old rookie SP who was pitching in Independent ball last year and had a 4-0 record with a 2.67era and 26Ks in 30.1ip it would be a GIGANTIC story. Instead, dorfmac probably doesn't know who he is.

My friends, your AL Rookie of the Month, Mr. Scott Richmond.

"I really think that despite what the Rays say, $$$ is the major factor here."

Obviously money is a huge factor here, but winning the division should be the main priority.

Considering the major struggles of Scott Kazmir (velocity is down across the board, walk rate up) and Jeff Niemann (16 K, 18 BB), calling up Price to start could be a necessity for this team to stay in the race.

"If any American team had a 30 year old rookie SP who was pitching in Independent ball last year and had a 4-0 record with a 2.67era and 26Ks in 30.1ip it would be a GIGANTIC story. Instead, dorfmac probably doesn't know who he is."

You're right, but to be fair, his ERA isn't remotely sustainable considering his home run rate, groundball rate, and walk rate..

Again scribble, and I started off my post with that...I understand all the reasons it's been pure luck, and would be thrilled if he finishes the season with 30 starts and a 4.50era. That doesn't change the fact that the mainstream US media is too stupid to properly evaluate pitchers, and would be all over his story if it were happening down south because of his shiny start to the season. And then people like dorfmac wouldn't say that the AL ROY looks weak this year, when really the AL saw a rookie pitcher have a beast of a month.

"That doesn't change the fact that the mainstream US media is too stupid to properly evaluate pitchers, and would be all over his story if it were happening down south because of his shiny start to the season."

I totally agree with this notion, I was merely pointing out that Richmond's performance is a bit of a mirage.

"Again scribble, and I started off my post with that...I understand all the reasons it's been pure luck, and would be thrilled if he finishes the season with 30 starts and a 4.50era."

Actually, he's got a 4.37 FIP so far, he's missing bats and his other peripherals aren't good but they aren't horrid.

I think the Blue Jays may have found a solid 4/5 starter in the scrap heap.

"And then people like dorfmac wouldn't say that the AL ROY looks weak this year, when really the AL saw a rookie pitcher have a beast of a month."

And that doesn't include Ricky Romero, who honestly looked like the AL ROY frontrunner to me before he went down in April. Romero's first three starts this year were great..

It may just be smart to letweiters finish the year at AAA. He's doing well but really not focing the issue. After the Alex Gordon situation I get fearfull for any guy that tears up the minors as hard as these guys did their first year. Maybe getting another season under his belt and getting a september call up would be in his best interest. We are not going to win this year. Zaun is playing terribly but he'll pick it up. Then just keep him as Weits backup next year and a little insurance policy.

In a few weeks, Wieters will be destroying AAA if he isn't called up though.

He's too good to have an OPS hovering around .800 in AAA.

His OBP is where it should be (north of .400), so the rest will follow. He was playing hurt.

Wieters will look nice behind the plate. he seems to adapting to AAA pitching .. he may be a month or two away, unfortunately, as the O's need someone to excite the fans. Let's hope the O's have a few decent arms on the way for him to catch when he gets here. Eaton has to find an out pitch or be gone. This BS about him eating innings is fine if you love losing. Frankly, I'm tired of that spiel. Hill may be one .. let's hope. McCrory isn't ready yet .. he's still a deer in the headlights when he takes the mound.

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