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Matt Holliday Update

Scouts tell Joe Stiglich of the San Jose Mercury News that teams' unwillingness to part with prospects and inability to take on salary could make it hard for the A's to deal Matt Holliday. That's fine with GM Billy Beane, who says he doesn't feel pressure to deal his star outfielder this July. After all, if Holliday departs as a free agent after the year, the A's will receive compensation picks in next year's draft (assuming they offer him arbitration).

One scout says the economy has limited the number of suitors for Holliday, who makes $13.5MM this year. Another said teams are becoming more and more attached to the young players the A's would surely want in a trade. 

There's one more reason Holliday may be tough to deal. He's only hitting .197 in his last 17 games, with an OPS under .600. Nearly everyone goes through slumps, but this is Holliday's second big one of the season.


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Choking away Millions. I'd still sign him.

Billy Beane comes off so aloof about moves ("we'll take the draft picks...") but he could offer arbitration and watch Holliday accept it (what, $12M?) in this market. Then where are his precious draft picks? Or prospects?

You get the sense he thought Holliday was a sure risk he could take on when the trade was made, but in the end it might be the Rockies laughing it up with Street et al. Especially if Holliday continues to falter.

It's almost like if the A's don't sign him and Holliday still puts up a 20HR .280 80-85RBI line and the A's offer him arbitration.. Boras may have learned his lesson last year with under performing clients (Varitek) and jump all over arbitration this year, then the A's are stuck with him yet again, only not with Holliday at 13.5M.. But at 16-18M and NO WAY can they afford that.. The A's have got to trade him, I just can't see Beane as smart as he is taking a chance holding onto this guy until after the trade deadline.

Holliday is way overrated and it's showing. People need to get over thinking he's some kind of star; now that he's out of Coors his bat isn't much more than decent.

This case I believe is a portent of things to come in this trade market. Its going to be increasingly hard to trade stars with large contract because of the economy. The few teams who can take on cash know that they are one of just a few and wont offer very much in terms of prospects because they noone else is really in the bidding.

The deals we may be seeing this July will be trading young player for young players or deals like the McLouth deal. I could see some mlb ready pitching prospect for mlb ready hitter prospect go down more often than it has in the past.

forget it, no one is trading blue chips for a power hitter not power hitting, beane knows that. His best bet is to hope he hits .400 in July so he can sell higher then he can now, or just wait to collect the compensation picks.

The A's will move him next month and take the best deal they can get. Holliday would be a great fit in Cincy and the Reds have some major league ready farmhands, but how high are they willing to go, and can they get him signed for a few more years???

There is 99.9% chance Holliday accepts arbitration. And the A's CAN AFFORD IT. Payroll is a smidgen above 40M this season. Crosby (5M), Cabrera (4M), Springer (2M), Giambi (7M), all come off the books after this season.

"But at 16-18M and NO WAY can they afford that.. The A's have got to trade him, I just can't see Beane as smart as he is taking a chance holding onto this guy until after the trade deadline."

They can afford him. This team is constructed to have major payroll flexibility next year.

Including Holliday's salary, they have over 25MM coming off the books (OCab, Giambi, Crosby, Nomar, Springer, Duke). And, the team only has 1-2 major arb cases (Cust and Wuertz).

Assuming two of Cunningham/Buck/Sweeney can hold down CF and RF (all of them could play a decent defensive CF). The team's biggest offseason needs will be offense, and SS/3B help. There are no good SS FA on the market, and the A's might try Cardenas at one of 3B/SS.

And, I'm assuming insurance is paying a good chunk of Chavez's contract, since he's been injured for a while now.

The A's are one of the deepest teams in the SP department, and the bullpen will probably be getting a major boost from prospects Carignan and Demel along with the return of Devine. They won't need to spend significant money on pitching.

Unless they get a good deal, they should hold on.

As for the Holliday for Street, Carlos Gonzalez, and Greg Smith trade???? That trade is pretty equal right about now. Carlos Gonzalez is hitting 180/226/280 with the Rockies. Smith will probably never be effective in Coors Field. Street - He gone!

"They can afford him. This team is constructed to have major payroll flexibility next year."

I get what you are saying Rex, but the bats coming off the books (other than Cust, another potential costly arbitration case) the A's offense just got gutted once again and there is little left except for the young staff to rebuild with.

"There is 99.9% chance Holliday accepts arbitration."

I seriously doubt it. He'd be better off taking a pay cut to play in a hitters park for a year.

"I seriously doubt it. He'd be better off taking a pay cut to play in a hitters park for a year."

I was thinking the same thing.

After seeing the way that hitting in Oakland has sapped his power and killed his BABIP, I doubt that Matt Holliday would stick around if he ever wanted to try to rebuild his value.

My guess is that he either signs a long term deal or takes the Dunn/Burrell route and takes a two-year deal to see if the market rebounds.

who's to blam ehere? A's couldnt expect a holliday decline so much and took the risk. holliday and borass are the losers here. Doubt A's care much of what they gave up.Street was stubborn to adjust w/the A's pitching coach, Cargon cant hit at the mlb level, and Smith got replaced by braden/outman (upgrade). I still think they'll get offers for holliday, its not like he's franceour or something.

"I was thinking the same thing."

Still though, I doubt there won't be a bidding war for Holliday. Yankees, Red Sox, and Angels are all potential suitors and all hitters parks. He won't get the Texiera-esqe contract that Boras was dreaming about but I'm betting he'll get 5/6 years at 15M or 16M per.

"He won't get the Texiera-esqe contract that Boras was dreaming about but I'm betting he'll get 5/6 years at 15M or 16M per."

Not even certain Bay will manage that this off season and he is having a terrific year, while Holliday is having just a fair season. If Holliday/Boras is counting on that type of payday, they are sadly mistaken.

I would not be surprised to see Holliday re-sign with the Rockies in the offseason.

@johns

"But at 16-18M and NO WAY can they afford that."

Either update your knowledge, or please dont talk about the Oakland A's ever again, this was the dumbest thing written in here in a long time. They offered $40+M to Furcal remember? They dont have the penny pinching owners anymore, they blew tons of dough on crappy FAs this year, Holliday will rebound and wont be traded this year, and if he accepts arby (doubtful) then big deal he plays for the A's in 2010 when they will be twice as good as they are now.

"Either update your knowledge, or please dont talk about the Oakland A's ever again, this was the dumbest thing written in here in a long time."

Oakland is going to be purchasing a pretty much entirely new team next year PL I already HAVE updated my knowledge with the 1 year commitments they have to Holliday, OC, Giambi, Crosby and super sub Garciaparra. Maybe you should just get off of your high horse for once and tone your posts down for once.

"Oakland is going to be purchasing a pretty much entirely new team next year PL I already HAVE updated my knowledge with the 1 year commitments they have to Holliday, OC, Giambi, Crosby and super sub Garciaparra. Maybe you should just get off of your high horse for once and tone your posts down for once.

Posted by: johns | June 26, 2009 at 02:43 PM"

Not exactly, they have kids to fill the positions. They also are going to spend money.

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