A's Acquire Scott Hairston

Looks like a pre-cursor to a Holliday trade. Maybe they have found a market superior to the draft picks ?

Dare I hold my breath for a Holliday trade?

"I don't understand this trade, unless Holliday is on his way out."

I don't think this is definitely a pre-cursor to a Holliday move, Oakland's gotten little to nothing out of CF all season. They moved a AAA arm (Ryan Webb) and a talented young arm (Craig Italiano) who's far away due to a labrum surgery to pump up the offense a bit.

I can see them holding onto Holliday for a few weeks to see if they can edge up into contention, if not they'll still have the option of moving him before the deadline.

This trade makes sense only if the A's weren't 11 games out of contention. Hairston has nothing to do with Matt Holiday seeing that Hairston has played 37 games in CF compared to 15 in LF. Rajai Davis and Ryan Sweeney are struggling and Hairston is a good fit for them. This trade looks like the A's are buyers rather than sellers which is confusing seeing that they are one of the worst squads in baseball this year

Maybe the offers for Holliday have been too little and the A's will just stick it out the whole season. What were they thinking to begin with? How could they think this team could compete? They could have moved street and gotten back a solid ss prospect+ I was so excited for this team after the Haren trade. There is still a lot to look forward to, but man!

Great trade for the Giants. They never have to face Hairston again. And we won't have to worry any more that Sabean will trade Sanchez for him.

Seems like a crappy return for a guy who was pretty good. Also, wasnt he not in the game today, hence the trade

LOOK EVERYBODY A ARTICAL CAME OUT TO DAY SAYYING a's manager is holding on to hoilladay bc hes a type A free agent. so hoillday my be a A's all year unless the right package comes along...

HE LOVES THE DRAFF PICKS

beane is a ninja...i bet hairston gets injured now lol

Centerfielders ranked by OPS+ from 2008-2009 (minimum 500 PA):

Cnt Player OPS+ PA From To
+----+-----------------+----+-----+----+----+
1 Carlos Beltran 136 986 2008 2009
2 Josh Hamilton 129 842 2008 2009
3 Scott Hairston 128 572 2008 2009
4 Nate McLouth 123 986 2008 2009
5 Torii Hunter 121 918 2008 2009
6 Grady Sizemore 119 1024 2008 2009
7 Marlon Byrd 118 741 2008 2009
8 Curtis Granderson 118 989 2008 2009
9 Cody Ross 114 813 2008 2009
10 Mike Cameron 113 822 2008 2009
11 Matt Kemp 113 987 2008 2009
12 Shane Victorino 109 982 2008 2009
13 Jody Gerut 106 515 2008 2009
14 Rick Ankiel 105 685 2008 2009
15 Vernon Wells 105 827 2008 2009

"LOOK EVERYBODY A ARTICAL CAME OUT TO DAY SAYYING a's manager is holding on to hoilladay bc hes a type A free agent. so hoillday my be a A's all year unless the right package comes along..."

Who are we going to believe, writers, or a person that can't even spell, "article" and "saying" and "Holliday" and "because" and "he's" or never heard of correct grammar or capitalization?

the truth is there are not too many guys available this trade deadline and everyone knows that holliday is "available" (despite what beane says)...so someone WILL fork up for holliday and my guess is a NL team looking for a bat hoping that a trip back to the NL is exactly what holliday needs....my guess is Braves (medlen package), Giants, Cards or Mets

Maybe we see a Holliday + Hairston trade here soon? Maybe a team didn't want to give up chips for half a season of Holliday. Beane went out and nabbed one of the guys that other teams were pursuing to corner the market further.

Who knows?

"Did you hear the news? Peter Gammons is reporting the Royals have made a blockbuster trade with the Dodgers, sending Zach Grienke and one prospect to be named later for Juan Pierre and cash. I'm totally shocked by this move."

Don't forget about the Royals fliping Pierre and half the farm to the Pirates for Ian Snell and Lastings Milledge.

melonis,

What's your take on Italiano? I used to play high school baseball against him a lil while ago and he was a stud. How is he valued/viewed now after the injury he had?

Boomer-

I don't know much about him. He had as much heralding as Andrew Bailey did as an SP prospect coming into the season. He's deep down on the depth chart, but then I think the Padres see him as a reliever and not a SP.

@Johns: I am not sure how true your statement is. As Padres fans are now wondering what the timetable is for the rebuilding that is now obliviously going on. Hairston had the same amount of control left as Adrian has now, this year plus 2 more seasons. So if they believe Hairston isnt going to be a part of the next contenting Padres team, why would Adrian, unless they are going to try and lock him up long term.

Wow and the deal actualy gets better for the Padres...Apparently both of the two options for the PTBNL are more than bags of balls and unopened boxes of Jack Cust Bobbleheads.One of the 2 supposedly with MLB service time.

Seems to me like Kevin Towers did a decent little job on this one.

Could the ptbnl possibly be Gio Gonzalez?

pitchers w/ mlb service time in minors:

blevins
eveland
marshall
gallagher
gray

Yea, I am going to go out on the limb, but I think DePo wanted to tell fans about the PTBNL as the real reason for the deal. Hopefully it makes more sense of it from a Padres perspective, thou I cant figure out the A's motives in this trade unless they wanted a CF upgrade offensively.

Link to DePo blog:

http://itmightbedangerous.blogspot.com/

I wouldn't mind if the PTBNL was Outman...and he could easily be the player but has to wait due to his injury.

The PTBNL sure has the chance to make this trade look way better. I'd be happy with Eveland or Gonzalez.

A's are using their pitching depth. they have prospects to replace the prospects that are traded away, pitchers returning from injuries, and possibly more players brought in from future trades

johns why would they trade him to boston when he could go to seattle for branyan,sweeny,and maybe beltre

Typical Mariner fan.

@ johns

As a Padre fan, I would want a real good position player prospect for Adrian. I used to think that a Buccholz package would be good, but the Padres have no good offensive players that are close to big league ready that could potentially carry a lineup. If Adrian is traded and with Hairston gone, this team wouldn't score more than 2 runs a game if the main players they got back in a Gonzalez trade were pitchers.

That's why I think a Lars Anderson/Bowden package makes sense, and gives the Padres a young, close to MLB ready bat with middle of the order potential.

The question is, would a first baseman for first baseman trade make sense for both teams? That might be a hard trade to explain from a Padres FO standpoint.

The Padres probably should trade Gonzalez b/c they really need talent in their system, and aren't likely to be good again for a couple years. However, I don't think they will deal him. Boston seems like a good match.

The Padres first baseman in A ball is Allan Dykstra, their first round pick from last year but he's been awful and already looks like a bust. They do have Kyle Blanks, who's a first baseman and was their top prospect coming into the year, but he hasn't been too impressive this year. Blanks is taking fly balls in LF and RF as well, so he could still find playing time. Lars is a superior prospect compared to Blanks anyways.

As for the PTBNL, I hope it's Henry Rodriguez. Blevins makes a lot of sense. My wild card pick would be Fautino De Los Santos, the guy Oakland got in the Swisher deal. He's risky because he had TJ surgery last year, but he had great suff when healthy and just pitched his first minor league game this season today. Maybe the Padres want to scout him to see if his stuff is back before deciding whether or not to grab him?

how can you hope it is henry rodriquez. this guys got potential to be a premier closer. anybody see the futures game last season.

Hey Padre fans, If you guys shopped Gonzalez you could most likely pull 2-3 top tier prospects at a minimum.

You guys could go hog wild with Boston...would absolutely restock the shelves down on the farm.

Then Perhaps reloading on more prospects in a Jake Peavy deal.

And perhaps more on a Heath Bell deal.

Heck if I were you guys, considering the good start Towers has had, Id be hoping he blows the whole thing up and brings an abundance of talent back to San Diego.

Padre Fans deserve a good team in that beautiful ballpark.

I know how you guys feel, Im a Pirates fan.

Know ID yuh, just because one probably 14 year old Seattle fan suggests something stupid, doesn't mean that you have to pigeon toe the rest of the Seattle fan base. I've actually been around the country a lot, seeing games in Baltimore, Cincinnati, Cleveland, San Francisco, Oakland, Seattle, Minnesota, etc. and BY FAR the most savvy fans are typically Mariners fans.

Boston and New York are comparable Seattle fans, and I don't know where you are from, but I bet my mom knows more about baseball than you do and I only started teaching her about 10-12 years ago. The point being that not all Seattle fans are tools like you that go around talking crap about another teams fanbase because of where they live geographically. I bet you are a stupid Angels or Rangers fan, which would make for some good baseball talk I'm sure. You could tell us about how you have man love for Josh Hamilton and Michael Young or how you felt betrayed more by K-Rod and Teixeira than you did by your girlfriend that cheated on you. Your cry for attention is pathetic. Just lose some weight and I'm sure your girlfriend will start sleeping with you again instead of your best friend.

As for the real reason Gonzalez WOULD make sense in Seattle is because he wants to stay on the west coast. The deal would be possible because the Mariners have a 1B prospect courtesy of the Mets named Mike Carp that looks pretty awesome and is only 22 years old. He's significantly younger while being big league ready. He'd fit well with the youth movement plan, especially when compared to a guy who is 27 in Gonzalez, which is what many we are talking about with 1st baseman for 1st baseman trades not making sense. In other words, trading a 27 year old proven All-Star for a 25 year old prospect who has proven nothing, makes ZERO sense. Trading a 27 year old All-Star for a boat load of prospects that include a 22 year old 1B who is an OBP and hitting machine at all levels makes a lot of sense, plus Carp is from southern California like Gonzalez and this makes him as likely to sign with the Padres as Gonzalez. Carp projects as a 25+ HR guy or maybe even 30-35 HR potential with .300/.400/.450-.500/.850-.900 major league numbers. Players with good OBP numbers tend to be safer bets to stay in the majors and produce to their expected ceilings, so Carp is a safe pick and shows more power numbers earlier on than even Anderson did. Anderson of course benefits from being a Red Sox prospect, so he gets the hype.

The complete trade would be something like this...

Mike Carp
Greg Halman
Phillippe Aumont
Jacob Wild
Yuniesky Betancourt

That's a starting SS who is under contract for 4 years, 2 top 50 prospects in baseball depending on your scouting reports, a righty reliever/starter who is dominating in the 2nd mostoffensive friendly professional stadium in north america in a hitter dominant league, and of course Carp who is Lars Anderson without the publicity.

That would leave Adrian Gonzalez at 1B, and Branyan at 3B while Beltre is injured. When Beltre returns, he goes back to 3B, Branyan goes to DH, and Griffey goes to LF. The lineup would be like...

without Beltre...

Ichiro RF
Branyan 3B
Lopez 2B
Gonzalez 1B
Gutierrez CF
Griffey DH
Johjima C
Langerhans/Balentien LF
Cedeno SS

with Beltre...

Ichiro RF
Branyan DH
Beltre 3B
Gonzalez 1B
Lopez 2B
Griffey LF
Gutierrez CF
Johjima C
Cedeno SS

Iknowalilsomethingaboutsomething

that actually seems like a pretty decent deal. i dont follow the padres, or their minor league system, but i dont think david eckstein and luis rodriguez are long term answers at shortstop. i read from somewhere that lopez may not stay at 2b, so maybe keep the brothers together for a low ceiling low level prospect too?

Dempsey, I completely agree. I feel like sometimes GMs worry too much about how fans will react to trading a big name for prospects, but they need to stop worrying about that and worry about what's best for the team. In the end, fans care about whether the team wins and contends. That will bring them to the ballpark. If these prospects make the team better in the long run, then pull the darn trigger.

And good luck to the Pirates. McCutchen has looked great so far and Morton has pitched well. It shouldn't be long before the Pirates start making some more of these trades.

@Iknowalilsomethingaboutsomething : I think you went a little overboard. But thats not the kind of package the Padres would want. One for Adrian, they are going to want One high end pitcher, and one high end position player (either CF or MI).

The players you mentioned, Crap, looks good except that would be where Blanks would play, and there are others in the system. SS is going to be Cabrera's unless he proves he cant handle it, but he done well thus far. He is cheaper, younger option at SS (and adds speed to the lineup).

Like I said earlier, it depends on if the Padres are going to try and extend Adrian if he is dealt or not. If they cant get an extention done, they might move him (might...key word).

If you took the time to look at the Padres you would see a lot of position talent at the lower levels, especially at the Corner spots (both infield and outfield). We lack C/CF/MI and of course pitching is a thin through out, with some exceptions.

The Hairston trade was for 2 proposes. 1 Free up the a corner outfield spot for the young guys to play more. And 2. Allow the Padres to add arms, which the system really lacks. Those same ideals would apply to any discussion about Adrian.

btw rumor has it is Gallagher if so, I will be very impressed with what KT got in this deal, he got a high ceiling guy plus a guy that will bre in rotation next year and projects out to solid #3 starter or maybe a #2 for the future

FWIW Pads finally have a good system that is loaded at A (best record in all of minor leagues), A+, AA

@Pads/Angelsfan: That would be the reason I believe the front office is thinking it will be two years before the system allows the team to truly compete at the major level. Hence moving players that may not be part of that timetable is going to happen (And the reason I say that they are either going to extend Adrian or trade him)

"Allan Dykstra, their first round pick from last year but he's been awful and already looks like a bust."

He has been a dissapointment although his OBP is still over .400 and he has been much better as of late. He has more walks than strike outs and the Padres also had him change his swing which is supposed to be the reason of his struggles. Way too early to call him a bust.

"If anything, this spells the end for Travis Buck, expect him gone sooner than later. He's been mouthing off a bit to the management, which gets you an immediate ticket outta dodge if youre an A."

That would be a bad idea for the A's. They're done contending.

Not good. Although the lack of a corresponding 25 man roster move makes me think some trade is happening. Hopefully the roster move is something like the removal of one of the dead weight guys (Crosby, Nomar, etc.)

Dykstra has been a bust so far, Matt Clark has passed him as a prospect. But the Padres have gotten amazing results from 2008 draft in Jeff Decker (42nd pick), John Forsyth (46th pick, James Darnell (69th pick), Blake Tekotte (101), Sawer Caroll (111), Anthony Bass (165), William Weames (225), Matt Clark (375, Dan Robertson (1005, Brad Bach (1275)

This trade looks good.red sox get Adrian, eck, and giles.padres get masterson, anderson, bard, bowden, reddick, lowrie and casey kelley.Or this deal.marlins get heath bell and giles.padres get kyle skipworth and burke badenhop or correa