Odds & Ends: Pirates, Sano, White Sox, Blue Jays

It all adds up. The Pirates are trying to give other teams the impression that they are not forced to move Wilson and/or Sanchez, which is true. They aren't going to trade their most consistent defensive players -and the league's top double-play tandem- for a couple of jabronis that aren't going to be able to step right in and make an impact.

As for Sano, I just don't get it. The kid says he wants to play for the Pittsburgh Pirates. He and his family have a great relationship with Rene Gayo, and his family trusts that Gayo will make sure the kid is in good hands in the Buccos organization. But the kid's agent is pushing for top-dollar, rather than Sano's personal interests. Pathetic.

jdub, it is not necessarily the agent's job to get the most money. It is there job to deal with the financial side of the game based upon what the client wants. It may be in the agent's best interest to get the most money, but it's not necessarily his job.

Screw Halladay....

I'd trade Utley for Lince straight up and move Donald to second...

Hell bring back Tad Iguchi for a 3rd stint...

Yeah, but if you're not amicable to clients, clients won't hire you. So you are pretty much dealing with your client's best interests if you're an agent.

Look at Michael Ynoa last year, since there was similar posturization over him as well. The A's weren't the highest bidder (I think Yankees or Rangers was offering slightly higher), but Ynoa signed with the A's due to how well they develop pitchers or something along the lines.

Sano will have the final say, same way Ynoa did last year

"I'd trade Utley for Lince straight up"

This is a joke right?

Why would the Giants ever trade Lincecum for Utley? There is only one player that I would trade TL straight up for, and his name is Albert.

Lincecum will be one of the greatest pitchers of all time.

"This is a joke right?

Why would the Giants ever trade Lincecum for Utley? There is only one player that I would trade TL straight up for, and his name is Albert.

Lincecum will be one of the greatest pitchers of all time.

Posted by: JT | July 17, 2009 at 07:01"

Wow..

If you havent noticed Utley is well on his way to becoming one of the greatest 2nd baseman of all time.

"Wow..

If you havent noticed Utley is well on his way to becoming one of the greatest 2nd baseman of all time."

And?

I would take an all-time elite type pitcher over an all-time elite type second baseman any day. The only way I would trade that c
kind of pitching is for a game-changing hitter like Bonds, Pujols, ARod in his prime, etc. Utley, while a great player, is not game-changing.

Yeah I worded that wrong, what I meant was that it is in the agents best interest to get the most money. But as melonis rex said, Sano has the final say.

"I don't think were going to give up half the organization for one player."

It should be "we're".

Also, "series of post" should be plural - "posts".

Finally, "The Blue Jays have signed their fourth round pick according to Bob Elliott of The Toronto Sun." is missing a comma following the word "pick".

trade sano 4 utly

Utley has put up WAR's of 8.1, 8, 6.4 & 7.4 in his last 4 years. Tim was 7.5 last year and is on his way to a 8 WAR this year. Do you trust a pitcher (with a violent delivery) to keep it up at 25 more than a 30 year 2b? Its pretty freaking close!

Whitesoxfan424-

I agree that it is a team game and that a team has to play well behind a pitcher, however I feel that the pitcher has much more influence on the outcome of the game than a single hitter has.

Theoretically a pitcher can have 27 3 pitch strikeouts and go up and hit a home run at the plate (NL). This would result in a definite win.

However a batter can go up and go 5-5 with 5 home runs and 10 RBI's, play high-light caliber defense, and his team could still conceivably lose the game.

Pitching is just more valuable than hitting.

tdogg-

I'm not a big sabermetric stats guy, and I don't really use the WAR stat because I feel that any and all of these fangraph type statistics are objective. The exact same statistic can be used to prove or disprove an argument by both sides. With that being said I simply watch the players play the game. I've played the game through the minor leagues and I watch it every single day. However if you are into the sabermetric side then more power to ya! As for Lincecums delivery... You seem like a baseball fan so I'm curious if you read the SI article regarding Lincecums delivery, or if you have seen any of the ESPN features on the delivery? You should really check it out if you haven't already done so. Basically, it breaks down his delivery, and shows why it is actually less violent than most other delivery's. Lincecum uses his body and legs more than most pitchers in the game to create a whip like motion, which in turn relieves stress and pressure from his arm. He actually has close to a perfect delivery. His dad (whom is actually a brilliant baseball mind) taught him this delivery young, and taught him the right things to do to take care of his arm. The kid is just flat out amazing.

Wow I should have proof-read my post.

Objective should obviously read "subjective."