O's, Padres Swap Salazar and Meredith

Wait, he's a first basemen?

Now i'm sure this makes no sense...

I know Dave was being sarcastic. But a singles machine with "some" power would already make him one of our best players...

Our team batting average is like .230

Seems like a good addition to the Padres. Isn't this his fourth club in the last couple of years?

I seriously doubt we gave you anything much better then maybe a Josh Banks...

If it's Josh Banks, do not get to excited. He is not even league average at Petco Park.

NM...Amy Brattain of mlb.com just confirmed: it's Meredith for Salazar, straight up
http://bit.ly/uOWo1

LoL I'm suprised the Padres got an MLB level player for Cla. The Padres should have moved him after the 2007 season when he was at his peak value.

Salazar sounds like a Mark Sweeney kind of guy so I think this is a great move.

One option...
But i doubt they'll use it.

I guess this means the end for Baez and/or Sherrill. We'll see how this plays out!

The Orioles I think got a better return, if Meredith can survive in the AL East. Wasn't Salazar recently DFA'd? If so, the Padres might have been able to get him at a cheaper price if no other team wanted him.

"This still makes no sense to me from a Padres stand point..."

Same here. Fish, NYY, Anaheim, TB all contenders and need a middle guy for 6-7th inning and Merideth went dirt cheap it looks like. Why none of those teams wanted him, or got involved it seems is really weird.

Bad trade. They should have traded another reliever to Baltimore. Cla meredith is a main part of their bullpen. I would understand this if the Orioles were a contender.

Nevermind, see it happened earlier.

O's fans get ready for a pitcher who will get pounded by the NL East. Batters are hitting .324 against him this year, and he has allowed 45% of his inherited runners to score. In late May it was as high as 71%. Ever since we got him in 2006 he has never been the same. He will probably be decent for a month because the hitters will never have seen him, but after that he will get hit hard.

I do wish the padres got a little more for him because he is only 25. Who knows...maybe all he needs is a new team to get him back to his old ways. For O's fans I hope he does...

This is an awful, awful deal for the Padres. They could get much more for Meredith.

FU Towers. This really isn't good for the teams that have relievers to deal that aren't going to be stupid about it. Unless Meredith is hurt or something.

I want to say Sherrill is leaving Baltimore very, very soon.

I say the Orioles should trade Huff, Sherill and Lou Montanez to Toronto for Roy Halladay.

I say the Orioles should trade Huff, Sherill and Lou Montanez to Toronto for Roy Halladay.

Posted by: Oriolesfan9 | July 19, 2009 at 07:25 PM

You're kidding, right? That is a HORRIBLE deal for the Blue Jays. They want 3 or 4 top prospects. You gave them an expensive power hitter, a mediocre reliever, and a meh prospect. That is nowhere near the packages that the Phillies, Cardinals, Angels, White Sox, and Brewers will offer.

Bad trade for the padares

soxfan,

It was a joke...the Orioles don't need Halladay in the first place. We have 3 unbelievable starters in AAA that will dominate the AL East next year and 2011...Listen out for names like Matuz, Tillman, Arrieta and such...

and give them a long look.

Sorry mental shorthand

"We have 3 unbelievable starters in AAA that will dominate the AL East next year and 2011...Listen out for names like Matuz, Tillman, Arrieta and such..."

Orioles better hope they have help on the way, or else they will be fighting to get out of the cellar for another decade plus.

oops, went off topic

a 25-year-old groundball middle-reliever that has some success traded for a waiver-wire pickup.

bodes well for the new era in padreland, doesn't it?

what's next? peavy for sean marcum!
a-gon for casey kotchman!

not to mention, what do the padres need a pinch-hitter for? to make the score 8-2?

You just lost credibility. Salazar is not a singles machine. The one part of his game that is not questioned is the bat. He has power. In fact he just about only hits extrabases.

He doesn't quite have a true position defensively. He does well enough. He can field pretty well, but for a 1B type he isn't the prototypical size for the position and his range is average. He was a terror at AAA and became a great pinch-hitter for the Os this season. He provided a couple late inning gamewinning extrabase hits.

memo to all newbies posting on this site:
when making jokes like huff, sherril and montanez for halladay, please add an exclamation mark because as much as i enjoy his site the sense-of-humour quotient* is often lacking

example:
"huff, sherrill, montanez ... what, no melvin mora?!"

*(that would be SOHQ to any sabremeticulous types)

Posted by: crash | July 19, 2009 at 08:05 PM

Note to "crash"

When trying to impress peers on a MLB forum, try a little harder. Oh and im not a "newbie". Thanks for your pile of words, grammatical errors in a run on sentence. GO O's!!

"i'm not completely mad about this trade but they should have commanded more."

Cla has a 3.86 ERA and 1.468 WHIP the last three years pitching in PETCO against the NL-West. Good enough for a whopping 101 ERA+. You really think they could have gotten more?

Salazar might not be anything special, but he does provide some serious pop off the bench and pretty nice versatility. If I was a Padre fan, I would be happy to have someone on the bench like this to provide the kids some relief. The fact it only cost an average at best reliever means it wasnt much surrendered for a guy who can be useful.

Yeh, lftyg33, I am just stunned the Os were able to trade Salazar. I was expecting a DFA. The fact that they got a guy who can pitch some, get groundballs in Camden Yards, is the right age for the Orioles, and comes from Richmond VA is even more creative. That's certainly more useful right now than Salazr was, not that Salazar was bad by any means.

Salazar won a couple games for the Os singlehandedly, the most prominent one was the walkoff HR he hit against the Red Sox (I think?).

I understand that he is a "class act" and a "nice bench player"

But what does that do for a team in rebuild mode? We're supposed to be getting younger not older...

Padres get: a 31 year old player with great offensive upside but no discernable defensive position. Is adequate but average at best at 1B/3B/OF, can play SS/2B in a pinch. If he were 27 instead of 31, he'd have been the O's starting 1B next season. Better off in the NL where his bat and versatility can be of best use.

Orioles give up: a useful bench guy on a team that never pinch hits or platoons who is too old to be part of the rebuilding process. His best position is 1B, and the team has a potential star playing 1B at AAA.

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Orioles get: a young groundball reliever who had great success a few years ago but whose stock has slipped. He keeps the ball in the park, something Orioles pitchers have had problems with, and has only given up 4 XBH the entire season. He throws lots of GBs, and the O's have an above average defense behind him, especially Isturis and Roberts up the middle. Relievers' effectiveness tends to cycle anyway, and the O's gamble that a change of scenery and a new pitching coach can help him regain his command.

Padres give up: a reliever who has declined every year since his stellar rookie season. His OBA is well over .300, and he has allowed 9 of 20 inherited runners to score (45%).

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I'm an Orioles fan, but I try to be reasonably intelligent about things. When fans of both teams are upset that they didn't get enough for what they traded away, I'm thinking that's a sign the trade was fairly even. From the O's perspective, Salazar was about 24 hours away from being DFA'd, so to be able to get a serviceable reliever for him is a good thing, and therefore I'm happy. Yes, I think we could have gotten more for him, but that's the fanboy in me talking. I do think it also makes it easier to trade Baez. I don't think it has much of a bearing on whether or not Sherrill gets traded, because with him being effective, inexpensive, and under team control for another year there is no reason to move him unless the right deal comes along.

I still say we're not meeting a need. A right handed bench player isnt really something we needed...

But maybe we're going to trade Kouzmanoff or drop Edgar Gonzalez and it'll make more sense.

oriolesfan09
my bad
apparently you're in the lack of humour dept.
curious since 'huff, etc. for halladay' was quite funny
BTW, does that include the signing rights to albert belle?

Ok, so you claim to be an adult running around calling people "newbies" or "tweens" or whatever and making those ridiculous name changes when they dont agree with you on a baseball discussion site? And you and your friends think that is funny? If you say so...

PS, what is up with the typing as if you are straight from the William Shatner School of Prose? Something else you and your friends somehow find funny?

He is headed for the DL. But he still takes up a spot on the 40 man roster that way.

And he is garbage. No way would he be here if he didnt happen to be Adrians brother.

This is a good move by the O's. They get a young reliever who has had success at the major league level, although his career stats are headed in the wrong direction. As much as O's fans like Salazar, and it is undeniable that the man has proven that he can absolutely rake in part time duty, it remains to be seen if he could handle playing full time. Let's be honest here, there is a reason he was playing in the minors at the age of 31. He's more or less a man without a position, he's a perfect fit for the NL where his abilities as a pinch hitter are better suited. The fact that the O's received anything at all for a guy who was going to be DFA'd in a matter of hours is pretty good. The question is will they send Meredith to AAA or do they send Mickolio, who has had success in the majors so far, back down.

Love this trade for the O's. Salazar is fine, but limited upside and aging out of the O's plans. Meredith is a young RP with some upside, particularly at Camden Yards. Not a key piece, but one of those solid incremental moves that make sense for a rebuilding team.

Oriolesfan9: Don't forget Bergesen! He should have made the ML roster out of spring training. Nice, and shocking, to have two ROY candidates on the O's, neither of whom are named Wieters!

Sorry for the stream of replies.

TB: I think they send Mickolio down. He's still plenty young, and better to give him a taste and keep him hungry than risk an implosion.

It's all about options. Who has options left and who does not.