Rizzo: "Not Trading Dunn"

Nats and Reds matchup. Nats have too many outfielders, and the Reds need a right handed hitting outfielder.

Reds should try to acquire Willingham. I think they should try to add Olsen as well, and solidify the staff with a desperately needed lefty starter.

Im not sure what the Nats want. I think Bailey, Fransisco, Heissey, Cozart and might be enough, but again, i dont know how the Nats rate them. I wouldnt trade Alosno or Stubbs, and trading Fraizer may not be a good idea.

Heisey , cozart , Francisco , and Bailey for Willingham and Olsen . HAHAHA you have to be kidding NO WAY IN HELL . I wouldnt give up Bailey for them combined

Heisey , cozart , Francisco , and Bailey for Willingham and Olsen . HAHAHA you have to be kidding NO WAY IN HELL . I wouldnt give up Bailey for them combined

Posted by: redsfan | July 07, 2009 at 07:29 PM

Well thats by fat an exaggeration. Olsen will def give us 180 innings and decent to good numbers. Bailey and the rest are unknown. Willingham will answer the LF problem for a bit

@icedrake: I don't know, I agree Dunn isn't a major sports personality (Jeter, Pujols ect) but he's still a star player who excites the fans with his power. Last year the Nats top HR hitter had something like 14 HR, Dunn already has 22.

Shoot. Well I guess then he won't be coming to Detroit....
Wishful thinking anyway...

Steveo is right. Dunn was just begging for any team to offer him a contract other than the Nationals.

Dunn has put up beastalicious numbers on a bad team. Everyone was avoiding this guy and it turns out he was the best option. Burrell, Griffey, Anderson and Holliday have all been pretty much duds.

The funny thing is that the nationals do not have a terrible lineup, with Zimmerman Dunn and Nick Johnson they have a pretty decent heart of the order. Their pitching is god awful but their lineup is probably one bat away from being pretty damn good.

Wow, DJ. Yesterday, we already gave you enough and more proof that Hanrahan is not as bad as you make him out to be.

.443 BABIP is a complete fluke. A number that high strongly suggests that the guy is very unlucky and that his defense has let him down quite a lot.

His K/9 is 9.9 and his K/BB is 2.53. The guy has no problem getting people out via the strike out. He's only given up 3 HRs, but he's given up 54 hits in 34.2 IP. That's outrageous. If you've been watching him pitch all year as you like to claim, then you'll know just how awful Washington's defense has been. Balls that should be caught in LF aren't because Dunn is as slow as a rock and the balls drop for XBH. How hard is it to understand that most of Hanrahan's bad stats are not entirely his fault. He's walking less people this year, and he's striking out more than one batter per inning. A guy that can do that but gives up almost 20 more hits than innings pitched is probably getting screwed by his defense. I don't see how that is so hard to understand.

As for trading Dunn, that might be a good idea. He should be a DH.

It's only been 3 games. That's hardly even a reliable sample size. Their defense is much better. He's due for a market correction in a positive way. He could bring his ERA down to the upper 4s and I have a feeling the number of hits he's been giving up will go down.

But I guess like you said yesterday, "agree to disagree." You don't like the guy and you think he's trash, and no amount of proof that he isn't that bad will convince you otherwise. Oh well.

In Rizzo you trust, right?

If the Nationals were to trade Zimmerman and Olsen/Willingham to the Reds, they would most likely ask for Votto and Bailey, plus top prospects.

Lol, if the nats were to trade Willingham, Zimmerman, and WIllingham, the return would be...

JOey Votto, Homer Bailey, Brandon Phillips, bronson Arroyo, the third base line bat boy, the BP thrower, all of the peanut guys, Jay Bruce, and Norris Hopper.

did i miss anyone?