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Yankees Sign First And Second Rounders


11:40am: Baseball America reports that Murphy signed for $1.25MM. The second rounder, who had committed to playing at Miami, is a catcher with power and good arm strength.

10:41am: The Yankees agreed to sign first rounder Slade Heathcott for $2.2MM, according to Jim Callis of Baseball America. Heathcott, who was a two-way star in high school, will be an outfielder for the Yankees. Callis says Heathcott has "five-tool" potential. ESPN.com and Lane Meyer of NoMaas.org was also right on this signing.

Callis hears that the Yankees signed second rounder J.R. Murphy for an undisclosed amount.


Comments

Sweet, the pick was unprotected so Heathcott had all the leverage.

Isn't that like twice the recommended slot recommendation? Not that the Yankees care but it seems like a lot of scratch for a very late 1st round pick.

I dont know if its above slot but does it even matter with the way teams have been signing their picks? I haven't seen many signings in slot.

i know a guy who coached jr murphy and he said that he signed for 1.25 mil.

Typical Yankees. One pick earlier than Heathcott signed for $1.1MM. Two picks later signed for $972k.

The guy was picked 29th... in order to find someone that made as much as $2.2MM, you'd have to go all the way up to the 8th pick.

Typical.

bjsguess- the Yankees had no choice; this pick was from their unsigned 2008 1st round pick, if they didnt sign Heathcott then they would have lost the pick for good. So the kid had all the leverage, pay him the extra million or lose him and the pick

stellar- you know nothing about the draft process. were you crying when Detriot drafted Porcello 27th and gave him $7,290,000?????????

"The guy was picked 29th... in order to find someone that made as much as $2.2MM, you'd have to go all the way up to the 8th pick."

Or go down to the 3rd round where the Royals gave their pick $2MM. Or the 7th where Boston gave theirs just shy of $1MM. But, yes, the Yankees ruin everything.

"Typical."

Irony.

"Typical Yankees. One pick earlier than Heathcott signed for $1.1MM. Two picks later signed for $972k.

The guy was picked 29th... in order to find someone that made as much as $2.2MM, you'd have to go all the way up to the 8th pick.

Typical."

And David Renfroe signed for $1.4M.

Give me a break - take your ignorance elsewhere, please.

actually the comical thing is a high school athlete actually had the yankees in a bind for once.

"Typical Yankees. One pick earlier than Heathcott signed for $1.1MM. Two picks later signed for $972k.

The guy was picked 29th... in order to find someone that made as much as $2.2MM, you'd have to go all the way up to the 8th pick.
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Wow....is it really that deep, the hatred for all things Yankee? The Yanks signed their 1st rnd pick for double slot, a pick that would've been lost if they failed to sign him, so what?

The Rays signed their 5th rnd for 5x slot and their 3rd rnder for 3x slot. The Sox signed their 3rd rnder for $1.4 mil and the Royals of all people signed their 3rd rnd pick for $2 mil. Where's the outcry for them.

Please stop acting as if the Yanks just committed a mortal sin. EVERY TEAM is signing their picks over slot and in many case 2-5x slot, small markets especially. If that player is important enough for them to sign then so be it. Stop being so unfair.

Talented players always fall deep into the 1st round or even 2nd round. Just because he signed for more than what the players around him doesn't mean he isn't worth the money, plus as some have stated that Heathcott had the yanks by the nuts because either they give him what he wants or they lose him and that pick for good

Seriously I don't like the yankees actually I hate the yankees but it is not their fault. This is the game of the draft.

Red Sox signed Westmoreland last year for 2 million. Pirates spent about 3 million on pick 7 and 8.
It doesnt matter hopefully this guy will just become the typical yankee first round pick

Just for the record - I wasn't complaining about the Yankees pick - just wondering how it compared to the slot recommendations. Seems like that is typically included in the signing posts here and didn't see mention of it in the articles.

While true the kid had leverage since this was an unprotected pick, does that really justify paying twice the recommended slot?

bjguess, the Yanks could have gone the safe route and drafted a guy that would sign for a lot less or they could have drafted a player is worth the money, in the case their gamble paid off and they got a very good OF prospect

Wah Wah Wah, Yankees Yankees Yankees. Boo hoo. Boo hoo.

Why don't some of you Red Sox fans stop picking your nose for one second before making comments.

We're not the team paying Lugo 9 million to play for another team or dropping 100 million on Dice K who can't even pitch.

We're also not the team that broke a long standing international free agent signing rule by signing Tazawaa who looks incredibly hittable by the way.

Go ahead and cry some more about our payroll.

If I were you I'd be crying that my owners jacked up all their prices, are making money hand over fist and are spending less money than ever making a tremendous off those die hard Sawx fans they love so much.

"who is worth the money"

bjsguess: I don't think the Yanks offered 2x post because they wouldn't receive a 2011 replacement pick at all. I think they signed him 2x slot because they felt he was worth, just as every other team has done with the pics they felt were worthy of the money. Slade had a full football scholarship to LSU so he had other options. I don't see why other posters are making such a big deal. They're are a couple of guys drafted AFTER the 1st rnd that were given more or close to $2 mil already.

"It doesnt matter hopefully this guy will just become the typical yankee first round pick"

Posted by: theJonathan | August 17, 2009 at 11:39 AM


I have absolutely no idea what this means. Explain yourself.

The Yankees have signed J.R. Murphy, and BA’s Aaron Fitt has confirmed that his bonus is $1.25 million. That’s the highest bonus in the second round this year, and more than double MLB’s $477,900 guideline for his draft slot (No. 76).
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I'd be really shocked if no other player in the 2nd rnd signs for at least $1.2 mil. Can Murphy's 2nd rnd bonus really be considered a "record setting amount" if guys in the 3rd rnd have signed for a lot more?

I have absolutely no idea what this means. Explain yourself.

Posted by: Chris | August 17, 2009 at 11:49 AM
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I guess he's trying to say that the Yanks don't have a lot of success with their 1st rnd picks. Of course he wants to ignore Phil Hughes (2005) and Joba and IPK (2006). Whatever....

YanksFanSince78- well its not like IPK is a success story. It doesnt matter though, let them talk.

Actually Stupid, Joba was not a 1st round pick. IPK is a success since he is on the DL for the next 8 months recovering from an aneurysm in his arm and Phil Hughes is really a success in his small sample size of relief appearances for the last 2 months?

The real people we are talking about are Brien Taylor, C.J. Henry, Andrew Brackman, John Ford Griffin, David Parrish, David Wailing...do you really want me to keep going?

Yanksfansince78 I am really ashamed of this post for you. Usually you have well thought ones.

Now if u want to chat about their International Free Agent signings they had Montero, and Hernandez in the minors. Sanchez will be good and Wang was a success. Learn more about your team if u have been a fan for 30 years.

"The real people we are talking about are Brien Taylor, C.J. Henry, Andrew Brackman, John Ford Griffin, David Parrish, David Wailing...do you really want me to keep going?"

All team has failures.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/draft/history/_/team/bos

How many of those are successful 1st round picks for Boston?

zack, as a yankees fan i'm gunna say you probably shouldnt have posted that because there are a bunch of good players on that list and now you are probably gunna get ripped apart.

"Actually Stupid, Joba was not a 1st round pick."

Actually, the supplemental round is round 1a or round 1s (depending on your source) so Joba (a supplemental pick in 2006) is indeed a former 1st round pick.

This link will back me/us up: http://www.baseball-reference.com/draft/?year_ID=2006&round=1

So lets stop calling other people stupid when we're the one who is wrong, ok? Great.

"zack, as a yankees fan i'm gunna say you probably shouldnt have posted that because there are a bunch of good players on that list and now you are probably gunna get ripped apart."

a bunch? i count 4 since 1980

A) I'm not going to dispute that the Yanks have a history of poor draft selections.

B) Since, 2005 I think they've done a much better job.

2004: Philip Hughes, perhaps well on his way to becoming a good/great mlb pitcher.

2005: CJ Henry, a complete bust.

2006: IPK, I hope people aren't so dumb as to judge a 24 yr old who has only pitched 13 mlb games after being rushed to the majors 1 year after being drafted. People seem to forget that IPK blew thru A/AA/AAA/mlb and then was handed a starter spot all in 1 year. His career 1 1/2 year minor league record of 248 IP with a 1.96 ERA and 273 ko with 77 walks and a .096 whip suggests that the Yanks have a talented pitcher who's mlb career has yet to be determined. The fact that his injury wasn't a bone/muscle/ligament problem leads me to think he will be back in AAA next year.

Joba- IS a 1st rnd pick, who just like IPK was rushed to the majors. You already know what he's doing and I think we can expect more.

2007- Andrew Brackman. First year back from TJ surgery is always the toughest. @ 6 '10 he's struggling with his control/mechanics. Even so he's still pitched 94 IP w/ 94 KO to go along with his 77 walks. Hopefully, he can get his mechanics together. A 6'10 guy with a 98 mph FB and a good curve is still a prospect.

2008: Gerrit Cole- Went to Stanford.

-Jeremy Bleich a 22 yr old lefty SP currently @ AA, combined stats of 130 IP, 99 ko, 48 walks, and a 4.16 ERA. He's struggling so far in AA (5.36 ERA) so we have to see if he can turn it around. Still too early to call him a bust.

If you're calling Andrew Brackman a bust already, I'm calling you a bust as a poster.

I don't know, but to be fair the Red Sox have done better in the first round than the Yankees during this decade..

The Yankees have drafted Phil Hughes, Joba Chamberlain and Ian Kennedy, and we'll see what happens with Brackman, Bleich and now Heathcott.

The Red Sox have drafted Jacoby Ellsbury, Daniel Bard, Matt Murton, Clay Buchholz, Jed Lowrie, Michael Bowden, David Murphy, Phil Dumatrait, Craig Hansen, and Nick Hagadone, and Casey Kelly is currently one of the best pitching prospects in the game.

I could care less about either team, they're both stacked all the time so what the hell is the point of complaining, but to argue that the Yankees have drafted better than the Red Sox just seems to be really, really dumb as far as I can tell.

I don't remembering anyone even comparing the first round drafts of the Yankees vs. Red Sox. I quickly read back through and didn't see anything. So it seems really really dumb to call something really really dumb that didn't even really really happen.

Oh. 1 dude asked a question about boston. I guess that counts, but not really. move along now, nothing to see here :)

My bad, Cole went to UCLA. Don't want to be called a bad Yankee fan for that mistake.


Also, again I was not disputing the facts the Yanks have had a history of poor drafts in the 1st round, but since Cashman took over the draft it's been extremely productive.

Since 2004 the Yanks have drafted and promoted Hughes (04), Joba (06), David Robertson (06), Brett Gardner (05) and still have Austin Jackson (05 @ AAA), Mark Melancon (06 @ AAA/mlb), Austin Romine (07 @ A+), Dellin Betances (06 @ A+), Zach McAllister (06 @ AA), Brackman (07 @ A)and many others from the 07 and 08 drafts to look forward to.

what happened to papelboner and red sox dynasty? If only there was something called internet accountability.

what happened to papelboner and red sox dynasty? If only there was something called internet accountability.

scribbs: Any board with a Yanks or Sox topic is bound to be reduced to crap. The Sox have done an excellent job of drafting. All teams are going to have some busts. However, I just have to chuckle that the this was all brought on because a poster wanted to make a big deal about the Yanks signing Slade to 2x the slot recomendation. Selig's "recomendations" are arbitrary, stupid and is being completely discarded by each and every team. How does one compare a 1st rnd college bound pick being given 2x slot when they're are guys drafted in later rounds getting 3-5x slot? A HS pick will almost always have more leverage than a college kid, especially college seniors.

In fact, history will show that the Yanks almost always are NOT among the thop 5 when it comes to $$$$ commited to the draft.

YanksFan ...

Assuming your comment was directed to me - I didn't make a big deal out of it. I simply asked - I wasn't sure what the slot money was for the Yanks. But since you bring it up ...

There are plenty of HS kids that are sitting on full rides to the school of their choice. They didn't all sign for twice over slot. The Angels, just a few picks above the Yanks, signed both of their 1st round picks (HS outfielders) for a combined amount that is equivalent to what the Yanks paid for Heathcott. Both kids had to be convinced to walk away from their scholarships. They both have similar talent and rankings going into the draft.

To argue that the Yanks didn't overpay is absurd. They absolutely paid way too much given what equivalent talent (not draft positions) were being signed for.

Also, what makes this signing stand out isn't the 2x's over slot. You're right - plenty of teams have gone above that in the later rounds. The more interesting number is the total dollars - well over $1m over slot. For a team to pay 3x's over slot to a guy that was set to earn $150k isn't as dramatic as paying 2x's over slot on a guy that should have signed for $1m.

All that said, I don't have a problem with the Yankees overpaying. Power to them. I was just really surprised. And for the record, I have been surprised with many of the signings that have been way over slot. It isn't just the Yankees that are spending wildly. The entire system has swung too far in favor of prospects. People need to remember that most of this talent will never sniff the big leagues.

Actually, bjsguess the poster I was refering to was "stellar".

Typical Yankees. One pick earlier than Heathcott signed for $1.1MM. Two picks later signed for $972k. The guy was picked 29th... in order to find someone that made as much as $2.2MM, you'd have to go all the way up to the 8th pick.

Typical.

Posted by: stellar | August 17, 2009 at 11:07 AM
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I agree that the level of overpaying is relative to the dollars but still....my point is that Slade being offered 2x over slot still isn't as dramatic as the Royals signing their 3rd rnd pick for $2 mil. Regardless of how you cut it, a 1st rounder is probably more deserving of 2x slot versus a 10th rnder getting 8x slot. The money might not be more but the money is still dramatically more than what the stupid recomendation is anyway.

Where's theJonathan? I want to see him post "I was wrong".

YFS78
I agree completely. The comments on the Royals one is "good signing" and such and has like 4 comments. Now that the Yankees spend the 2x overslot on a late first rounder, all the people chime in saying they are ruining baseball and there is 40 comments. Just showing that no matter what the stripes do, people will complain.

"Where's theJonathan? I want to see him post "I was wrong"."

What are you talking about? You should know that trolls like him don't come back after they are proven wrong...

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