Curtis Granderson Becomes Available

So..if true does this mean the Tigers are basically making everyone available?

You'd like to think that, Tim, wouldn't you? Hehe. He'd obviously be a great fit for the Cubbies, but do they realistically have the pieces necessary to acquire him? You also have to try to pawn Bradley off on somebody.

OMG i am getting so excited imagine the Giants picking up Uggla, Granderson from trades and then getting Nick Johnson!!! that would be so great please Sabean those players are amazing and e need a leadoff man or should we stick with BURRIS OR VELEZ!!!!!!!

Granderson would cost MORE than Sanchez.

He is a definite lead off hitter. The Rowand contract is like an anvil!!

I changed my mind first of all: He is owed 25.6m over the next 3 years, and he hit like .133 against lefties this year, just came froma 30 hr season, STrikeouts a lot! 141 times last year, and yea... that does not look good for the future but i am guessing if you want to take a risk sure but if you move him to the NL maybe he would do better!??!?!?!

Not to be biased, but what about the other team in Chicago not wanting to spend $ on Figgins and are reluctant to resign Podsednik? I hear this Granderson guy did pretty good against them too. Coincidently they have an opening in the OF and a need for a lead off hitter.

Only ? is who do they trade

haha Giants fans have been without a major league offense for so long some fans are getting excited about Nick Johnson, Dan Uggla and Curtis Granderson.

I love it!

Granderson is a Sox fan from the south suburbs and belongs on the White Sox. I always thought it was a crime that he played for Detroit. Unfortunately the Tigers would never deal with the White Sox - not to mention the Rios problem.

there is no better fit for the cubs, and they thought the tigers had interest in bradley too, can he be included in the package?

He is a sox fan, my friend went to college with him at UIC, and he enjoys playing at the cell. However, I really don't think the tigers and sox matchup well, not to mention, as southsider said, tigers wouldn't do it.

can to cubs get the trade done without including castro, vitters, cashner, or diamond?

He's grew up in Illinois. This might have the white sox all over it because Even if Kenny Williams say there is no money you never know what hes got planned up his sleeve.

Granderson's contract is extremely affordable. He is making around $8.5MIL per season. Many called last season a down-year for him, but he was still worth $15.2MIL according to fangraphs. I will be disappointed if Curtis is traded, he is many fan's favorite player.

Fire Dombrowski, quick!
The Dumbo that brought us $ 72 million in BAD contracts, is now shopping all the good contracts to keep the bad ones on the books!
And NO, the Tigers don't want Milton Bradley. Not even for free.
For Granderson?
Dodgers- Matt Kemp, George Sherrill, and James McDonald
Angels- Howie Kendrick, Maicer Izturis, and Jose Arredondo
Giants- Pablo Sandoval and Matt Cain
Cubbies? You don't match up.
Yankees- Hughes, Joba, and Cano
Twinkies- Denard Span, JJ Hardy, and Matt Guerrier
or Joe Mauer (we'll throw in Laird!)
Black Sox- Alexei Ramirez, Matt Thornton, and you have to take Magglio back!

Fox
Fontenot
Caridad
Bradley
(one of our many right handed pitchers besides samardzia, cashner, diamond)

It's hard to judge what the Tigers would want for Granderson. Even if they trade him and Jackson, you still can't say that they are rebuilding.

San Francisco would make a lot of sense, as they could offer a package of good arms. They'd have to move Rowand to one of the corners of course.

TD, you're not close on any of those expectations. He'd bring in a nice haul but none as big as those

Its starting to look like Illich ordered a Fire Sale

"Are the Yankees really interested, or does every NY reporter tack their name onto every rumor just because? Over the past few days, I think I've read that the Yankees are interested in every player in the league."
I think they're required to link Yankees to each player, it automatically sells papers or gives you hits on a website.

Can Granderson hit LHP yet?

Granderson for Cano?

Ok, what do you guys think of this proposal for Grandy...

1. Austin jackson
2. Mark Melancon
3. PTBNL
4. PTBNL
5. $8 million in contract relief.

I think the tigers would jump on that. They get a long time replacement for grandy in Jackson, get a bullpen arm they badly need in Melancon and get $8 mil that they can't afford off the book. The two PTBNL won't be signifcant, really just add on's to sweeten an already good deal.

Tigerdogs has to be kidding. Cain, Kemp, Sandoval, Span and Cano are all better than Granderson.

@Mickey Mac

i would think the tigers would want one of the 20 catching prospects the yankees have.

I smell a blockbuster. Granderson and Edwin Jackson in the same trade. Who wouldnt be in on that? I'm just wondering what it would take to get both.

granderson for cano is plenty

I am smelling a bradley for Granderson trade. :)

Sorry had to say it

Granderson + Jackson
for
Joba, Montero, AJax, and Melancon

johan na they are going to pawn off one of their overpaid pitchers with each trade.

Something like Granderson/Bonderman to the Cubs for whatever. Then Jackson/Willis to the Brewers for whatever else.

Neither trade will bring much back but both might be worth it.

I really doubt Granderson gets dealt. He's one of the few players on that team worth the money he is owed, no reason they should deal him right now, unless the haul is really good (though the ones TigerDog posted are ludicrous, homer alert!)

Would DeJesus, Callaspo, and a minor league pitcher (say Mellville) be enough/too much?

RickJames - but Damon's agent is Boras and he is already hinting at 3-4 yr contract - NYY will run from that. Trade for Granderson and sign MAtsui as FT DH - Matsui is a beast in Yankee Stadium!

As a Cubs fan, why does it seem like every Cub fan thinks Sam Fuld and Mike Fontenot are the keys to a trade. They're throw-ins at best.

That being said, the Cubs should definitely make a play for Granderson. Dave Dombrowski is a good GM and I have to believe he's looking for major league ready players and possibly a prospect for Granderson. The question is what's a guy who hit .250 and makes almost $9 million worth in a trade. I would think a trade centered around Sean Marshall or Jeff Samardzija (if he's willing to waive the NTC) and Jake Fox with a prospect thrown in (for all those thinking Vitters, Cashner, Castro - not going to happen). It would probably be a mid-level prospect.

Perhaps if the Cubs took Granderson and helped rid the Tigers of either Bonderman's or Willis' salary, the Cubs could send back Bradley and maybe some cash. Don't know if that fits in the Cubs budget though.

I don't know if the Cubs have what it takes to get Granderson. The Yankees can at least offer Melky and either Joba or Phil Hughes and that may be enough to get Granderson.

TD, I had to laugh when I saw you asking for Matt Kemp from the Dodgers for Granderson... Why would the Dodgers do that? Kemp is a younger better version of Granderson! As a Cub fan I also think that Jim Hendry has to be all over this. But as a Cub fan we normally go after one player all off season and don't get him (i.e. Brian Roberts and Jake Peavy).

anyone who brought up him going to the cubs with bradley involved is a complete moron and needs to be shot. im a sox fan, and i would love for this guy to be on the team, but we have rios, and i dont see them trading to the sox, because they are a division rival. the royals arent a rival, more like a joke.

back to the cubs, why would they take on bradley? i wanna say hes owed 21 mil, and granderson 25? itd almost be a wash. if they could put a deal with fuld, fox, and some prospects maybe.

get him out of the AL cent! unless hes coming home to the southside

Trade for Granderson, Sign Holliday for 5 years(34 when contract runs out.

Jeter
Granderson (CF)
Teix
Rodriguez
Holliday (LF)
Cano
Matsui(DH)
Posada
Swisher(RF)

Thats Dynasty-esque.

Make it happen Cash.

"How bout EJax, Granderson and Willis for A Jackson, Hughes, Montero and Melancon?"

I wouldn't touch that with a 10ft pole.

If this is true, Wren has already called the Tigers about it now.

keep willis and yanks can keep hughes now thats a deal

Granderson could be a great fit for numerous teams. I certainly wouldn't want to see the Cubs give up Starlin Castro for him through, Castro should be their everyday shortstop in 2011, hopefully with Theriot moving over to second.

"Granderson who is already declining. Hendry will pass on that deal."

Granderson certainly hasn't repeated his 2007 performance, but he's hardly declining, he's still an elite center fielder.

Dodgers- Matt Kemp, George Sherrill, and James McDonald
Angels- Howie Kendrick, Maicer Izturis, and Jose Arredondo
Giants- Pablo Sandoval and Matt Cain
Cubbies? You don't match up.
Yankees- Hughes, Joba, and Cano
Twinkies- Denard Span, JJ Hardy, and Matt Guerrier
or Joe Mauer (we'll throw in Laird!)
Black Sox- Alexei Ramirez, Matt Thornton, and you have to take Magglio back!

Posted by: Tigerdog | November 11, 2009 at 02:15 PM "

What the HELL? Give up Kemp whos already better in all facets of the game.. Give up a closer and a Starting pitcher?
LMAO

Pablo and Cain? Dude you are on drugs.. I have a few friends who live in Michigan and they do a lot of LSD.. maybe its a state wide problem..

.265-.270 on Fox, sorry for the typo.

Hendry wouldn't trade Vitters for Peavy - he's certainly not trading him for Granderson. Castro's not going anywhere either. The Cubs are extremely high on him as their future SS...which can only mean that he will probably suck and they will hold on to him for way too long much like their other recent top hitting prospects until he has absolutely no trade value.

Fire Dombrowski, quick!
The Dumbo that brought us $ 72 million in BAD contracts, is now shopping all the good contracts to keep the bad ones on the books!
And NO, the Tigers don't want Milton Bradley. Not even for free.
For Granderson?
Dodgers- Matt Kemp, George Sherrill, and James McDonald
Angels- Howie Kendrick, Maicer Izturis, and Jose Arredondo
Giants- Pablo Sandoval and Matt Cain
Cubbies? You don't match up.
Yankees- Hughes, Joba, and Cano
Twinkies- Denard Span, JJ Hardy, and Matt Guerrier
or Joe Mauer (we'll throw in Laird!)
Black Sox- Alexei Ramirez, Matt Thornton, and you have to take Magglio back!

Posted by: Tigerdog | November 11, 2009 at 02:15 PM

Pure idiocy. Kemp is already a better player than Granderson. Terrible trade idea.

I like Grandys game and I thought about possible trade scenarios yesterday. However, I have difficulty evaluating his worth.

a) He's not a good leadoff hitter. Period! Last year could be looked at as a down year but regardless of that, he has a .344 lifetime OBP, has averaged about 135 ko per season over the last 4 years and, despite having good speed, isn't an "elite" base stealing threat. Defensively, he has good enough speed to run down flies in the gap but too often I've seen him misread balls that either drop in front of him because he took a step backwards before going forward or vice versa. Power wise, you have to ask yourself is he a "true" legit power hitter or was this a flukish kind of year for him? Despite a career high in AB this year his numbers have basically regressed in almost every category over the last 3 years, except for HRS and a small increase (8+) in SB from last year.

All that being said, he is absolutely an improvement over Cabrera or Gardner. However, I think some of you are wayyyyy over estimating the return the Tigers should ask for him. Plain and simple, there's no way the Yanks would trade Cano + anyone else. I'm not even sure I would trade Cano straight up for Granderson. Part of the reason has to do with my belief that Cano may be on the upswing whereas Grandy might be on the decline. Another reason is because we simply don't have another 2B ready to step in. Would the Yanks minus Cano but plus Grandy really be that much of a better team? Debatable.

I'm not even sure the Yanks and Tigers really match up well in terms of needs vs position of strength. Assuming that the Tigers want more than prospects, I don't see a match. The Tigers can drop off $65 mil in salary next year and I think they can compete right now. So if they are not in a rebuilding mode then wouldn't they be better served getting mlb talent already in the majors? Yanks COULD dangle a package of Joba OR Hughes plus 1 of Ajax, Montero or ????, but that doesn't seem to help the Tigers in a major way for 2010.

Cubs get: Granderson & Bonderman

Tigers get: Marshall, Cashner, Fox, Fontenot.

** Det has no 2b option, they dump salary, and pick up a potential closer in a year or two with Cashner.

Cubs Line-up:

1. Theriot - SS
2. Granderson - CF
3. Lee - 1B
4. Ramirez - 3B
5. Soriano - LF
6. Soto - C
7. Fukudome - RF
8. Baker - 2B

Rotation:

1. Lilly
2. Zambrano
3. Dempster
4. Wells
5. Bonderman/Gorz

YF, I wouldnt do Cano for Granderson straight up.

As for hughes, the yankees probably would need to sweeten it a bit but I wouldn't want to anyway. AJax is about a year away and melky plays a decent enough CF. I want the yanks to try and replace damons offensive output via FA and wait out austin

(For Grandy and EJax)

To Det:
AJax, Melancon, Gardner, Cervelli

(For Halladay and Wells)

To Tor:
Montero, Melky, Brackman, Horne,

Posted by: mike | November 11, 2009 at 03:40 PM
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You really could've kept that one in your pocket. Get ready for the response...wait for it....wait for it....BOMM (goes the dynamite).

If the Tigers trade Granderson and the fans perceive its a salary dump, attendance will plummet. The Tigers drew 3 million to Comerica in 2007, nearly that in 2008, more than 2.5 million in 2009, despite an economic depression in Detroit that shows no signs of abating.

Granderson isn't without flaws. He can't hit lefties and he strikes out. As he matures he is becoming a platoon power hitter who also happens to be a stellar center fielder. The Tigers hate to sit him against lefties because they have no comparable outfielder, few teams do.

Comerica's outfield is vast. If you put a below average center fielder out there, the opposition would spend the 2010 season turning outs into singles, singles into doubles, doubles into triples. The 2009 team overachieved primarily because of upgraded defense.

Granderson is a prince of a guy, the most popular Tiger player in Detroit since Al Kaline. Some fans would be mad if he were traded even up for Joe Mauer. If he is traded for what looks like salary relief, when he is earning his pay despite his faults, fans will desert the Tigers en masse.

Mike Ilitch has never been a penny pinching owner, either of the Tigers or the Red Wings. He pays top dollar for Miguel Cabrera and will try his best to keep Justin Verlander, the best Tiger pitcher maybe ever. He wouldn't cut Magglio despite a looming option and a career threatening slump. He is paying Carlos Guillen basically for past services rendered. He failed to predict the injuries to Bonderman, Willis and Nate Robertson, and is saddled with terrible contracts as a result.

Dumping E Jackson would be a vote of no confidence in his seemingly achy shoulder. Dumping Granderson, very different story.

I'll be very surprised if this happens.

I would like to see something like Samardzija, Bradley, Wellington Castillo, and Fox or Fontenot for Granderson and Bonderman might get it done.

pmc765, you hit the nail right on the head. Grandy might not be the best CF, but he is basically the face of the franchise.

And sure the Bondo, Robertson, Willis and Magglio deals seem like lemons now, but you have to consider that Bonderman and Robertson were having career years AND stellar post-season results when those contracts were negotiated. The Tigers just got really unlucky that they became injury prone. Also, Magglio put up career numbers and won the 2007 batting title. Willis was just a bad deal in general...

I'm in agreeance with most people and just say that the Tigers keep their cheap stars, do what they can in 2010, and look forward to 2011. There isn't a lot of off-season action for the Tigers to look forward to.

On a more positive note, a lot of prospects/minor leaguers really proved their worth down the stretch. Ryan Raburn seemed to be the ONLY Tiger who could produce hits in clutch situations..his fielding wasn't stellar, but I think more playing time would do him some good.

Also, Eddie Bonine doesn't get nearly enough credit. He didn't win very many games as a Tiger, but I attribute that to poor run support. He had a perfect game into the 6th inning in a MUST win game against the White Sox. He ended up only giving up one hit, which unfortunately ended up being a two-run homer, but with the kind of line up the Tigers had, there was no excuse to lose that game 2-0 especially when the pitcher throws a one hitter..