Delgado Not A Fit For Blue Jays

WEDNESDAY, 1:54pm: MLB.com's Jordan Bastian writes that a Major League source told him Delgado "doesn't fit into the Blue Jays' plans."  But if you're concerned about Delgado's health, his agent told Bastian the slugger "would have no problems playing first base on an everyday basis."

MONDAY, 6:59pm: AOL Fanhouse's Ed Price tweets, the Mets have seen Carlos Delgado in Puerto Rico twice, and plan to see him once more. Price adds that Delgado "is not moving well". Price adds that the Blue Jays, Delgado's first team, might be a "more likely landing spot."

One would figure Price mentions this because Toronto plays in the American League, giving Delgado a chance to DH, but it isn't so clear where Delgado fits in there. Adam Lind is Toronto's best hitter, and fields like a DH. Lyle Overbay is left-handed, just as Delgado is. Just how much of a role Toronto can offer Delgado is not at all clear.

Where Delgado fits with the Mets is much more obvious- he stands as far likelier to excel as a hitter while playing first base than Daniel Murphy in 2010. If he can't move well enough to play the position, of course, he becomes a glorified pinch hitter for New York.

For his part, Delgado has been hitting in his time with Carolina, putting a .353 average up in 19 plate appearances, including a home run. He only began playing the field on Sunday night, however.


71 Responses to Delgado Not A Fit For Blue Jays Leave a Reply

  1. Jays need to stay far far away.
    We know Gaston wants Lind to DH.
    Overbay seems like is unmoveable.
    Wallace is going to be ready to play 1B soon.
    The potential PR and attendance increase (that will not happen) for a Delgado reunion isn’t worth it. Sorry. Gaston already tried to ruin Snider, don’t need him ruining Wallace too.

    • Do you see Randy Ruiz fitting into the lineup anywhere?

      • Personally, I like Ruiz a lot. He’s proven everything he can in the minors. I know he’s old and what not, but for some reason – Jays management doesn’t care about him at all. Cito Gaston didn’t care for Ruiz (look at how often he pencilled him in the lineup last year). So no I don’t see Ruiz getting much of any playing time. Same goes for Dopirak.

    • Guest 6 years ago

      Gaston “tried to ruin Snider”?

      How old are your, 13? This is the kind of boring, childish junk that gets pedalled at “offtheirmedsjaysfans”. Why not keep it over there, and let the grown ups post here.

      • Poor choice of wording? He didn’t try to ruin him but in effect through his stubborness and ignorance, he nearly did. Platooning the fifth best prospect in all of baseball (at the start of last season) with Jose Bautista is ruining a kid. There were weeks were Snider played 2 games IN A WEEK. So call me medicated if you like, the facts state that Cito hindered Snider’s development. Same goes for the fact that Cito ‘tried to ruin the Jays’ by putting KEVIN MILLAR in the cleanup spot numerous times last year. But please, go on about his two world series rings.

    • Wallace has played 1B in the minors for something like 2 weeks. He will not be ready to play there in the majors soon, and realistically they shouldn’t start his arbitration clock yet anyways.

      • grownice 6 years ago

        i say let him play 1b all season in AAA see how hes doing , and if hes performing well defensively and offensively , i say a september call up is in order. but DO NOT rush him bluejays.

  2. Ferrariman 6 years ago

    does toronto already have a DH? if not, Lind could move to fulltime DH and Delgado can be the 1st baseman.

  3. Are the Mets seriously retarded? Lmao

    • bomberj11 6 years ago

      Did you just figure that out? You must be so proud of yourself.

  4. A) Delgado can’t play first anymore, by the sounds of it.
    B) Overbay is our everyday 1B and can’t be moved apparently.
    C) Brett Wallace is 1B of the future and will be ready by June.

    A+B+C = No!

    • grownice 6 years ago

      wallace will be ready by june? man, whos gonna win the 2010 WS , i wanna place a bet.

  5. wright_is_my_boy 6 years ago

    link to rotoworld.com

    pineiro for 2/15? is it close? i don’t know about this… anyone hear anything??

  6. bomberj11 6 years ago

    Man, if Delgado signs cheap, let’s say $3-4 million, LaRoche is in deep trouble. Excuse me, MORE trouble.

    • BradyAndersonsSideburns 6 years ago

      this would be great for the O’s, I am very happy with the way they have approached the whole first base situation. I wonder if they are still in on Delgado as well or if they have backed off a little seeing that it’s questionable at best as to whether he can handle playing first base full time.

  7. A Delgado return to Canada would be cool.

    I like what the Jays have done with their offseason so far.

    • rustypriske 6 years ago

      I agree.

      People are looking at this as Delgado vs Lind. I see it as Delgado vs Bautista, because I think that a Lind/Wells/Snider outfield would be fine (though not great).
      SIGN DELGADO (as long as it is no more than2-3mill +incentives.

      • grownice 6 years ago

        ya but as much i agree a lind wells snider outfield would suffice, i dont think jays management feel that way. plus what do we do with ruiz then? i meen what else does this guy gotta do to get a shot! hes cheap! and for all we know could put up delgado like numbers in the dh spot.

  8. Yes. Respective teams were trying to dump Bradley, Lowe and Guillen because they were on some random internet list – not because they were signed to horrific albatross-esque contracts. There are dozens of players who AREN’T on that ‘list’ and haven’t signed yet or took forever to sign too. You’re reading way too much into conspiracy theories there, pal.

  9. im torn on delgado…as much as I love his power….his presence would block Murphy from growing and I still feel that Murph will be much better at the plate and in the field this year.

    • Ike Davis is going to supplant Murphy next year anyways, assuming all goes to plan.

    • Infield Fly 6 years ago

      I respect that you feel that way but honestly, you show more faith in Murph’ than the Mets organization does. As for “growing” I am sure he could do some, but I don’t think he’s the hitting genius so many fans took him for when he first came up, and this wouldn’t be the first time a “promising” player didn’t deliver.

  10. maristmetsfan 6 years ago

    Any chance the Mets sign Laroche to a one year deal seeing as his options are very limited?

    • If the Mets are smart, while they play up the whole “we’re interested in Delgado,” they should secretly being discussing a one or two year deal with LaRoche.

      If Ike Davis is actually ready by 2011, LaRoche can be traded easily since he’ll only have a year left (if the Mets were to hand him a two-year deal).

      Either way, signing Delgado–even for minimal amounts of money–isn’t the best idea due to his poor defense and questionable offense.

  11. maristmetsfan 6 years ago

    I wonder if the mets try to get laroche on a one year deal seeing as he does not have many options left

    • Infield Fly 6 years ago

      And I wonder if LaRoche woke up to that fact yet?!

  12. $1545094 6 years ago

    please Jays no, please say no to Delgado.
    the only reason Delgado would be there is to draw fans, and how many more fans would he bring in for the cost?
    the Jays dont need Delgado. i would have Lind in LF with Ruiz at DH and wouldnt be surprised if Ruiz could have better numbers than Delgado. i really like Ruiz and think he could explode if given full playing time. regardless of his age he has had great numbers in the minors the last 2 seasons. he could pull a Nelson Cruz in 2010.
    i really hope the Jays pass on Delgado.

    • I agree with you. Except Ruiz is three years older than Cruz. Also, it’s obvious that Cito doesn’t want to play Randy. Finally, Delgado won’t draw fans – hell Halladay didn’t bring in more people during his starts.

      • un4gettable 6 years ago

        Yeah he will you can go catch a home run lol

    • I agree with you. Except Ruiz is three years older than Cruz. Also, it’s obvious that Cito doesn’t want to play Randy. Finally, Delgado won’t draw fans – hell Halladay didn’t bring in more people during his starts.

  13. I love reading posts like this, everytime a player goes back to his original team vis a vi ken griffey jr. I feel all nostalgic inside. cmon jays, sign del-got-it!

    • Infield Fly 6 years ago

      Perhaps….except that in baseball even nostalgia costs you money!

      • =) unless you already have a Delgado jersey from his previous playing days in Toronto that you can once again start wearing, almost feels like you’re saving money then, almost.

        • Infield Fly 6 years ago

          Yeah…and then you get to call it a “throw-back!”
          😉

  14. DarthBusey 6 years ago

    When your entire season’s hopes hinge around a 40 year old’s artificial hip, you know you’ve done a bad job constructing your team.

  15. rickyledee 6 years ago

    Did anyone ever sign Jacobs? (the guy we traded to the Marlins for Delgado a few years ago) I would much rather see a guy like him get a shot than Delgado. Sign Jacobs and let him and Murph fight it out in spring training. Whats with Minaya and signing all these senior citizens, I heard Smoltz might be coming also? Unreal

    • Infield Fly 6 years ago

      See my point below. I placed it in the wrong spot.

  16. Infield Fly 6 years ago

    No, my friend…as a Mets fan you do NOT want that. Jacobs’ defense is ABOMINABLE. He’s fit to be little more than a DH, which is what the Royals used him as after they acquired him from the Marlins. Then they released him (with a 228/.297/.402 line).

  17. jedicouncil 6 years ago

    I cant believe AA is even thinking about signing Delgado, the Jays have a surplus of 1B/DH types already. It would be a COMPLETE waste of money, may as well burn it or just give it away to the fans who show up at games. What is Delgado going to do except take at bats away from others, he isnt going to get them into the playoffs during their rebuilding years. Total nonsence and shouldnt even be considered again…ever.

  18. Spirit of '69 6 years ago

    If Delgado can field and run it would be worth it for the Mets to bring him back. He can still hit and power from the left side would slot in well among righties Bay, Wright and Francouer. If he really can’t move and is more of a DH then he’d just be taking up a roster spot on the Mets.

  19. Spirit of '69 6 years ago

    If Delgado can field and run it would be worth it for the Mets to bring him back. He can still hit and power from the left side would slot in well among righties Bay, Wright and Francouer. If he really can’t move and is more of a DH then he’d just be taking up a roster spot on the Mets.

  20. bomberj11 6 years ago

    I wanna see Minaya give Delgado like 3 years at $18 million dollars per year. Now that would be funny!

  21. bomberj11 6 years ago

    I wanna see Minaya give Delgado like 3 years at $18 million dollars per year. Now that would be funny!

  22. I heard Jason Phillips and his BC (Birth Control) glasses is ready to step in to play first for us once again :). In all seriousness, give Daniel Murphy another shot. I think he has the potential to be a great 1st baseman for us.

    • GOLSF 6 years ago

      I don’t understand what people see in Daniel Murphy. He made 10 errors at 1B in only 101 games. His slugging average was around .430 and OBA barely over .300. He does not have RBI power that a division contender should seek from a first baseman.

      What leads people to believe Daniel Murphy will ever evolve into a starting caliber 1B for the Mets?

      • I don’t understand it either. Last year they spoke of the guy like he was an establish good player.

        • GOLSF 6 years ago

          Ike Davis looks to have potential to evolve into a Mark Grace-like 1B. He’s at least one year away. With all due respect to Murphy and his team leading 12 (!) HRs, Omar Minaya must locate either a power hitting right handed platoon partner for Murphy, or, better yet, a full time starter nearing the end of their career and willing to take a one year deal.

          This is not optional. The Mets cannot afford to have such poor defense and power out of the 1b spot if they seek to contend in 2010.

  23. I heard Jason Phillips and his BC (Birth Control) glasses is ready to step in to play first for us once again :). In all seriousness, give Daniel Murphy another shot. I think he has the potential to be a great 1st baseman for us.

  24. AkronHammer 6 years ago

    he has to go to the mets…who else will take him?

  25. AkronHammer 6 years ago

    he has to go to the mets…who else will take him?

  26. gs01 6 years ago

    I’m glad the Jays aren’t interested in Delgado, that’s the last thing this team needs is a busted up old veteran to take away at bats from Lind, Dopirak, Wallace and Ruiz. Ruiz is tearing it up in winter ball batting .344 with 7 home runs in 26 games, if he could only cut down on his k rate he’d be all set.

  27. gs01 6 years ago

    I’m glad the Jays aren’t interested in Delgado, that’s the last thing this team needs is a busted up old veteran to take away at bats from Lind, Dopirak, Wallace and Ruiz. Ruiz is tearing it up in winter ball batting .344 with 7 home runs in 26 games, if he could only cut down on his k rate he’d be all set.

  28. ravens9111 6 years ago

    If healthy, Delgado will prove everyone wrong. He hit 38 HR’s before his injury. The only other year he failed to hit 30+ HR’s in his career was ’07 where he still hit 24 HR’s. From ’97 to ’09 he has been injured once in his career where he missed significant time. During that time he only missed hitting 30+ HR’s two of those years. He is definitely a risk, but I think the chances of him coming back to his previous form are pretty good. If the O’s sign him, and expect they will, that short right field fence will do him some good. I hope the Mets pass on him and overpay for LaRoche. Go get him Mets fans. You are always good at spending the money and getting nowhere.

  29. jdkladsjl 6 years ago

    I could see Delgado going to a low budget team or teams trying to make some type of noise. O’s, Royals, etc. If not i think its time to hang up the cleats

  30. I can’t tell if you’re being facetious or not; you do realize that that list was complete and utter nonsense yet? It was fabricated, completely. Most of the people on that list probably did take HGH or steroids, etc etc but you’re pretty naive if you think that these players aren’t getting signed right away because of some gobbidygook list. I think Delgado has more to do with the fact that you know.. he can’t really play anymore.

  31. bomberj11 6 years ago

    So I guess Roy Halladay is a user too? The Blue Jays were publicly trying to dump him.

  32. MeTsOwNyOu 6 years ago

    Murphy is nothing special at all. Why people are so in love with this guy amazes me. He should be a utility IF/OF and just give guys rest when needed. Ike Davis will be up in 2011, so getting a guy that will give us a good offensive year at first just for 2010 will be ideal, and I don’t think Murphy is that guy. BTW, Delgado may not have great range as a 1B but he has a hell of a pick up that has saved a bunch of errors over the last few years.====>Look across town and how Tex helped out Jeter

  33. Infield Fly 6 years ago

    What you say about Murphy is fine as far as it goes. The problem is that the Mets don’t just need a competent 1B who can make contact. They need power (Beltrán & Francouer notwithstanding), and Murphy just won’t provide much of that. He doesn’t fit the profile, and that’s not likely to change.

  34. Infield Fly 6 years ago

    I hear that – and I feel the same about “Mikie.” I just can’t cheerlead for the guy any more. A Mets fan favorite? Definitely, but is he a hero deserving of reward? “Heck” no!
    Sorry Mikie…but you did it to yourself.

  35. Infield Fly 6 years ago

    Trying to remember – wasn’t Murph moved to the 2-hole last season and he was OK but not especially effective, or it wasn’t the greatest place for him so they moved him back down?

    About power, I get what you’re saying, but if the Mets’ rotation doesn’t shape up effectively (i.e.: “no bona fide #2 starter”), they’re probably going to need more power to compensate for what they’re not getting from the rotation (they sure could have used that last year). If that’s the case they’re going to look for that production from a position that usually provides it (1B) and they probably aren’t going to want to wait for it to “grow.” It’s one thing to have a player as a “project” because you anticipate what he will mean to the team in the future. However, Ike Davis is on the way and he’s the real prize the team is focused on. So I suspect the Mets will not want to put but so much effort to develop a guy who would be basically expendable at the end of the year (although it would be wise so they could trade him high).

    As for the 3 players you mentioned, Beltrán will of course mash, but I wonder how long he stays healthy? With Wright, although it’s reasonable (and easy) to expect more power from him than last season, it is still unknown how he will perform at home and that makes it harder to ‘rely’ on him. As for Reyes…there is nothing to ‘rely’ on there either. For now he is also an unknown – even to himself – as he has said. Who knows if his game will be quite the same as it was before he was hurt? And although he was good for close to 20 HR’s before…hey, that may have changed too, and not for the better (crossing my fingers on that). This is something that will only be revealed with time. So given the uncertainties…why not some “power insurance?”

  36. Infield Fly 6 years ago

    Trying to remember – wasn’t Murph moved to the 2-hole last season and he was OK but not especially effective, or it wasn’t the greatest place for him so they moved him back down?

    About power, I get what you’re saying, but if the Mets’ rotation doesn’t shape up effectively (i.e.: “no bona fide #2 starter”), they’re probably going to need more power to compensate for what they’re not getting from the rotation (they sure could have used that last year). If that’s the case they’re going to look for that production from a position that usually provides it (1B) and they probably aren’t going to want to wait for it to “grow.” It’s one thing to have a player as a “project” because you anticipate what he will mean to the team in the future. However, Ike Davis is on the way and he’s the real prize the team is focused on. So I suspect the Mets will not want to put but so much effort to develop a guy who would be basically expendable at the end of the year (although it would be wise so they could trade him high).

    As for the 3 players you mentioned, Beltrán will of course mash, but I wonder how long he stays healthy? With Wright, although it’s reasonable (and easy) to expect more power from him than last season, it is still unknown how he will perform at home and that makes it harder to ‘rely’ on him. As for Reyes…there is nothing to ‘rely’ on there either. For now he is also an unknown – even to himself – as he has said. Who knows if his game will be quite the same as it was before he was hurt? And although he was good for close to 20 HR’s before…hey, that may have changed too, and not for the better (crossing my fingers on that). This is something that will only be revealed with time. So given the uncertainties…why not some “power insurance?”

  37. Infield Fly 6 years ago

    (Metsville: this point should follow the point below, but I guess I pressed the wrong “reply” button).

    On the other hand, I get it that when you like a player, you can find all kinds of reasons for the organization to like him as much as you do, and want him to be there as much as you do. Nothing wrong with that. That’s just a fan being a fan. It’s what we do. However, we can’t expect management to think like we do….and in some ways (not all!) that’s a good thing.

  38. Infield Fly 6 years ago

    (Metsville: this point should follow the point below, but I guess I pressed the wrong “reply” button).

    On the other hand, I get it that when you like a player, you can find all kinds of reasons for the organization to like him as much as you do, and want him to be there as much as you do. Nothing wrong with that. That’s just a fan being a fan. It’s what we do. However, we can’t expect management to think like we do….and in some ways (not all!) that’s a good thing.

  39. Infield Fly 6 years ago

    I know what you mean about Bay but since Mets sluggers are far from “bullet-proof,” more is better (huy, not trying to sound like ESPN here!).

    It’s hazy but if I recall right, Jerry put Murph in the 2-hole for several days, where he was OK. I think the concensus after that was that Murph’s bat would be best used where he didn’t have to give himself up for the baserunner (particularly since practically nobody else was hitting). Someone like Castillo would be better suited to that.

    I don’t know where to start with Jerry any more than I do with the front office & ownership. Jerry talks a good game but does not get the results. The Wilpons & Omar have done some good things, but in other ways I just…don’t get them. In whatever case, what I really want from now is to find the way to put the farm system on track – and if they don’t have enough expertise at hand, that is what consultants are for.

  40. Infield Fly 6 years ago

    Well that was the idea of putting Murph there, yes. It just didn’t work out. I don’t know what the chances are that they would repeat that experiment.Although I can’t argue with the seats I’ve had, I pretty much represent the exact kind of feedback the Mets would prefer to disregard because I’m not a fan of the new park. I gave it time so I could get used to it because I actually like change, but in the end, I’m indifferent at best, and somewhat enraged at worst. And when I get txts from friends who say they’re at the game but they can’t see most of LF…it sucks the “sportsmanship” out of me, and I just want to smack the Wilpons!

  41. Infield Fly 6 years ago

    That’s where some of my friends were that were complaining. I sat in that area once or twice and actually one of those times the seating arrangement completely blocked my view of one of Murphy’s most hideous misplays. I guess I should be grateful.

  42. cmat91 6 years ago

    .288 .350 .405

    Murphys numbers last year hitting second. not too shabby…

  43. Infield Fly 6 years ago

    Ha ha ha! Good one!Well, maybe you’re doing the right thing – and if enough fans do the same you’ll be able to practically pick your seats next year – should you care to. Hitting ’em in the wallet might be the only language ownership understands!

  44. metsman 6 years ago

    It’s funny the last few home games I went to this year they randomly pulled my friends and I out of line and gave us seats smack dab behined home plate in the first few rows with all the players wives and girlfriends; I imagine it was to make the stands look fuller on TV, but it appears the Wilpons were feeling the shame a while ago. The field endorsement deal is pretty piss poor timing with the bank bailouts, and then the ugly dominos pizza patches on the uniforms, but I’m trying not let ruin my appreciation for the team. I think Degado Murphy platoon is an oppurtunity not a problem, it gives you a range of talent in an important position, and gives Murphy more time to develope his bat and glove (which was getting much sharper) with a power option a substitution away.

  45. this may sound crazy but i think having murphy at the 2 and castillo at the 8 spot may be the best thing for the team. if arizona falls out of contention…u can use ike davis as trade bait for webb or seattle for lee

  46. Infield Fly 6 years ago

    I get the appeal of getting some more Cy Young “mojo” in the house but trading Ike Davis would create a hole (1B) to fill another as he is expected to be the Mets 1B of the future – and soon. Besides, dealing away the future for the sake of short term goals is the very strategy the Mets employed for so long most of the talent has been sucked out of the farm system. That’s another reason why I suspect they would be wiser to wait until next offseason to sign the kind of class arm you’re talking about. Maybe some starters will be gone by then but others will want to test the market, and it’s a much better crop in 2011.

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