Braves Not Likely To Sign Damon

Don't expect Johnny Damon to end up in Atlanta unless his asking price drops significantly. MLB.com's Mark Bowman hears that the club isn't likely to pursue Damon unless they can sign him for $1-2MM. One of Bowman's sources says "it would take a miracle" for the Braves to sign the left fielder.

The Tigers have some interest in Damon, and the Yankees could re-engage the Scott Boras client if the market continues to weaken Damon's negotiating position.


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56 Comments on "Braves Not Likely To Sign Damon"


Torgos_Executive_Powder
5 years 7 months ago

Would trading Melky Cabrera count as a miracle? Of course it would.

bbxxj
5 years 7 months ago

I don’t really get the Melky hate. He is a very good fourth outfielder and thats what he will be. He can play all three positions and he is a switchhitter so he can spell any of our starters (Diaz, McLouth, Heyward) against both LHP and RHP. 3.1M (2.6 actually) isn’t a steal but its not like we are paying him 16M or something.

csg
5 years 7 months ago

the problem is banking on Heyward to being able to handle RF already. The kid has maybe 150 AB’s against pitchers above A level ball. By signing Damon to something around $5 mil does expand the budget a bit, but it will save them plenty in the long run with Heyward. He needs to stay down until june, which would leave Melky as an everyday player until June. I dont like that idea. Sign Damon and platoon Melky/Diaz till Heyward shows he’s ready

BravoBrado
5 years 7 months ago

Melky is average. Just like the rest of the Braves outfield. They need someone that will add some offense or they will be as fun to watch as c-span. Let’s just hope Glaus has a whole year in him.

bbxxj
5 years 7 months ago

Again, Melky is not a starter. He is a fourth outfielder. What is the big deal?

If you listened to any of the interviews with Wren after the trade he kept saying things like ‘he gives us alot of versatility’ ‘he can play all over the off’ ‘he gives us options’ which is just nice GM speak for he is going to be a super-backup.

csg
5 years 7 months ago

I understand Melky has value because he can play all the OF. You missed my point. If Melky is the 4th OF’r that means they are banking on Heyward being ready, which is a bad plan IMO. Sign Damon and leave Melky as the 4th OF/platoon with Diaz. Bring up Heyward and trade someone in June. Paying more now and saving $$ in the long term should be the goal

5 years 7 months ago

Probably would have made more sense to ask for prospects instead of Melky, then sign Damon with the remaining cash.

Quacktastic_Duck
5 years 7 months ago

HORRAY!!! I was in a panic that they would sign old-noodlearm. Hope this pans out.

BravoBrado
5 years 7 months ago

Because there are so many times in a season where a game is determined by a left fielder having a great arm. I’ll take his offense contribution over Werth’s arm any day.

kch_76
5 years 7 months ago

Even if we would have gotten prospest instead of Melky that would have only given us 3-mil more to play with meaning Damon would have to sign for 4-5 mill vis the 10 mil he was reported to be asking. I dont know if even then that would have been enough to get Damon.

dickylarue
5 years 7 months ago

This is pretty sad. Damon is a good hitter and while his arm is poor, he can make some plays in the OF.

Obviously, Boras pissed off the wrong people with Damon’s asking price.

Still, this guy played a big role in helping the Yankees win a championship. His heads up double steal is one of the smartest plays in World Series lore. He’s also the type of guy you want up at bat in a crucial situation. He can make a pitcher work until he makes a mistake.

Some team is going to sign him and get the same kind of payoff that the Angels got from Abreu who also was treated like he should be put on the scrap heap by the rest of baseball.

I guess it seems if the Yankees don’t want you, the rest of the league really doesn’t want you.

I like Damon. I’ve watched him play a ton and the account of his demise is overblown. He’s not the speedy CF he was, but he’s still a cut above most of the OF’ers in the game.

bbxxj
5 years 7 months ago

Good, Good, Good

We actually need a good defense supporting our elite starting staff. Heyward is a plus to plus-plus defender in right, McLouth is average in center, and Diaz/Cabrera would be plus defensive combo in left. There is no need to add Damon in there.

Also, I want to leave the door open for our plus-plus centerfielder (Schafer) to come up and reclaim center, with McLouth moving to left, after he proves that he is healthy in a few months of AAA. Damon would pretty much block that from happening.

RiverKKiller999
5 years 7 months ago

Well damn ,make up ya’lls mind.1 day you say they make an offer to Damon,That turns out to be a joke.Then you say the Braves are pursueing Damon..Another joke and now ya’ll say the Braves aren’t likely to sign Damon.JOKE! Knew they were just pulling out damn chains…oh well.

kch_76
5 years 7 months ago

I agree the last thing that I think they should do is block Heyward or Schaefer. It will be easy to dump Cabrera when and if Schaefer shows that he is ready. An OF of McLouth Schaefer and Heyward would be sick fast and not much would hit the green. Not to mention that wouldnt be too shabby for a hitting OF either.

5 years 7 months ago

Asking Damon to take a $1-$2MM contract is kind of a slap in the face. He’s not worth what he thought he was worth at the start of the offseason but he’s worth more than that. A deal like Adam Laroche just signed seems fair to me.

5 years 7 months ago

Seems like Damon is really running out of options. The Tigers could be his only suitor unless he can reestablish contact with the Yankees.

It’s hard to understand why nobody wants him. Its makes sense to be cautious about his age. The market seems to be trending toward cheaper and shorter term contracts for players who aren’t in the prime of their career or top tier talent.

goldenglove002
5 years 7 months ago

well it’s possible that the source could be talking about singing Damon for something like 5 million and trading Cabrera and his 3 million=2 million. Probably not, but it seems odd that the Braves would even consider this as a deal Damon would accept. someone else would jump at the opportunity to have him that low.

NL_East_Rivalry
5 years 7 months ago

Someone else… like the Tigers?

HansonAce
5 years 7 months ago

Good that Damon is NOT a option but maybe now they could get Eric Byrnes once he gets released for 1M

goldenglove002
5 years 7 months ago

why sign Byrnes? He doesn’t make the team any better. A reason for signing Damon would be to improve the team. Byrnes is worse than Cabrera, and would just crowd the OF if added

TimotheusATL
5 years 7 months ago

Whoever picks up Byrnes if he is indeed released will likely only end up paying the major league minimum. Unfortunately, $400k for a scrap heaper like Byrnes would suit Liberty twofold — pay your LF the league minimum WHILE keeping J-Hey in the minors.

Sigh. I want real owners again.

BravoBrado
5 years 7 months ago

Eric Byrnes sucks. Obviously you didn’t watch the Yankees play last year. Damon can still hit and has some speed left. Did you even bother watching the World Series?

csg
5 years 7 months ago

Byrnes is awful

shitshow
5 years 7 months ago

what a joke… 1-2million? Are u serious? Damon wont get 30mil/yrs but i can see a 2yr 15/mil deal going down.

jester1996
5 years 7 months ago

Hey bbxxj. Did you really call Diaz a “plus” fielder. Not to mention you called the Gold Glove winning McClouth “average” in CF. WOW!

bbxxj
5 years 7 months ago

Yes I did, but just to clarify I said a Diaz/Melky combo would be a plus in LF.

Diaz has a career +6.2 UZR/150 in LF with a +2.9 UZR/150 last year in LF. He is a below average RFer because his arm isn’t good enough for RF but it is plenty good for LF and his range is well above average. Now I woudn’t call that ‘plus’ but I would call it above average. However when you start giving a former CFer in Melky playing time in LF the group as a whole becomes a plus defensive unit.

McLouth did win GG in CF, yes I know that. I also know he is a career -7.1 UZR/150 in CF but he did post a +4.7 UZR/150 last year. While he does have a fantastic glove (ie he can make alot of tough catches which earned him his GG) and he gets good reads off the bat, he doesn’t have the pure range or arm to be a plus defensive CFer. His glovework, reads, and medocre CF range/arm would make him a plus-plus defensive LFer but not a CFer. Schafer has the laser guided cannon of an arm and elite range to be a true plus-plus CFer.

PS: Using the ‘Reply’ button is easier.

5 years 7 months ago

Wow Damon is really getting fisted by how the market is shaping out. He better hope the Tigers really want him or else he’s gonna have to crawl back the yankees and take the original offer or LESS if he wants a decent paying job.

BravoBrado
5 years 7 months ago

I think that the FO could come up with the money for Damon if they trade away cabrera and drop some dead weight such as JoJo Reyes, Schafer, Diory Hernandez. If they want it to happen they can make it happen.

bbxxj
5 years 7 months ago

I’m not sure how Schafer qualifies as dead weight? I mean I don’t even think Pujols could hit fastballs with a broken wrist. If he can get healthy, and I see no reason why he can’t, he is still our CF of the future.

All of those guys make the minimum anyways so I’m not sure how droping them would help anything.

BravoBrado
5 years 7 months ago

Eric Byrnes was just DFA’ed. Let’s hope that Wren doesn’t sign another crappy outfielder.

Macfan1
5 years 7 months ago

There are some factors at work here when teams look at Damon for next season. He will be 36 going on 37 by the end of next seasonHis splits at Yankee Stadium vs Away were polar opposites in the power areaHome – .279 AVG, .382 OBP, .533 SLG, .915 OPS, 17 HR, 18 2BAway – .284 AVG, .349 OBP, .446 SLG, .795 OPS, 7 HR, 18 2BHe had 12 SB last season, lowest total for his career in a full seasonHis defensive numbers are below league average, Arm (-4.2 runs below average), Range (-3.7 runs below average), his UZR is -9.2 below average and -12.1/150 gamesTeams see these factors and combine them and realize that his greatest offensive effectiveness may be in a lineup surrounded by Jeter, Tex and Arod and in Yankee Stadium where RF suits his style of hitting. This is not to say Damon is not a good offensive player, but maybe teams just don’t see the value of him outside of that environment he had last season and when combined with his defensive weaknesses are weary about what they may actually get over an entire season in their respective parks and lineups.

Remember in signing Damon a team is signing a strictly offensive player here and that is where his value has to be determined removed from Yankee Stadium, as well as the lineup he was in.

Even if Damon comes back to New York next season I don’t expect him to put up the numbers he had last season.

hrbomber1113
5 years 7 months ago

Don’t look into the 12 SBs. He wasn’t caught all season and since he was hitting in front of Teixeira, he left the hole for him and wasn’t asked to run since Teixeira could easily drive him in from 1st. Jeter’s SBs jumped to 30 since he was hitting leadoff. Damon has definitely not lost a step on the base paths. He could steal 25-35 with a high percentage next seson if he leads off for a new team.

csg
5 years 7 months ago

Are Wren and Boras playing games against each other? Boras throws out the tigers name trying to get Wren to budge, in return Wren says Ill offer $1-2 max?

NL_East_Rivalry
5 years 7 months ago

Now Tigers have taken themselves out. Maybe Wren bumps his offer, maybe Damon signs with New York.

Satch10
5 years 7 months ago

Ok

I love the Braves I always have and always will. I pretty much like everything Frank Wren has done in his short career as GM but you are telling me we are so cheap we cant offer Damon 5 mil with an option trade melky for a prospect and pretty spend an extra 2 mil than we are right now. The tigers say they have no interest and apparently no one else does either so make him an offer and he has 2 sign it

Bravesfan4L
5 years 7 months ago

I agree 2 MM is an absolute joke. I would be perfectly happy to have Damon lead off for us next season for 4-6 MM.. Go with a Damon, McLouth, Heyward OF and use Diaz to spell them. Trade Melky and keep Schafer in AAA until September. If he shows he can cut down on his K’s, he can replace Damon as our lead off hitter next season.

Satch10
5 years 7 months ago

I wasn’t saying offer him 2 MM offer 5 MM and trade melky who is making 3 MM n our budget only goes up 2 MM

tmenerey
5 years 7 months ago

why not trade diaz instead and keep melky. diaz is making $2mil+ and might net a prospect (which is all you would get for melky) and then we can keep the versitle Melky to be able to play all 3 spots

tmenerey
5 years 7 months ago

why not trade diaz instead and keep melky. diaz is making $2mil+ and might net a prospect (which is all you would get for melky) and then we can keep the versitle Melky to be able to play all 3 spots