Six Teams Considering Chien-Ming Wang

THURSDAY, 7:45pm: Nero says that Wang is reconsidering his plan not to return from shoulder surgery until a couple months into the season, writes Jayson Stark of ESPN.  Nero says that "four or five teams" are pursuing Wang more aggressively than expected and therefore, his client could sign before Spring Training if he receives the right offer.

Stark mentions the Mets, Dodgers, and Cardinals as potential destinations for the 29-year-old hurler.

MONDAY, 5:32pm: Ken Rosenthal catches up with Chien-Ming Wang's agent, Alan Nero, who reports that a half-dozen teams are currently reviewing Wang's medical records.

Wang is training with an eye on throwing off a mound within a week or two, Nero added.

“We’re anticipating a major-league offer with a substantial guarantee and substantial upside,” Nero said.

The way that works out, timing-wise, Wang should be throwing off a mound right as the teams licking their wounds from losing out on Ben Sheets are ready to take notice.

The two are hardly similar pitchers, however. While Sheets gets more fly balls than ground balls and has a healthy strikeout rate, Wang is quite dependent on his infield defense.

So for those who miss out on Sheets, better check to see if Luis Castillo or Michael Young is playing for your team before going after Wang. If so, you might want to save your money.


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98 Comments on "Six Teams Considering Chien-Ming Wang"


InTheKZone
5 years 7 months ago

I hope the Cardinals are in.

Andy_B
5 years 7 months ago

All reports have said they are interested, time will tell if they are interested enough to offer the right amount of money to get him. Larussa wants a utility guy like Flip Lopez while Mo wants an arm, we’ll see who will win.

Ferrariman
5 years 7 months ago

why not both lol? kiko calero for 3MM and floppy for 4MM, both 1 year deals with club options. Thats the 7MM we had left to spend and the team is set.

Andy_B
5 years 7 months ago

I prefer Smoltz and Floppy myself, that would make for a pretty good offseason really.

i miss brendan ryan's mustache
5 years 7 months ago

For the money left i think grabbing Floppy, and Wang would be the way to go. That would be a nice happy ending to the offseason

Fendergtar
5 years 7 months ago

Cardinals fans love Floppy/Wang

Go Yankees!

i miss brendan ryan's mustache
5 years 7 months ago

Floppy.. wang.. happy ending.. that was the joke.

U yankee fans are quick

Guest
5 years 7 months ago

I feel like I have read that exact comment before.

PujolsHollidayWestbrook
5 years 7 months ago

Agreed. Think Duncan knows any Thai?

Guest
5 years 7 months ago

Mo already said if they sign anyone else it will be on the offensive side. Doubt that was a decoy.

glukupikron
5 years 7 months ago

The rest are considering Posey.

cubsfan555
5 years 7 months ago

They like Pujols, why wouldn’t they like Wang?

NYYANKEES
5 years 7 months ago

Mets, Cardinals, Dodgers most likley are 3 of them

5 years 7 months ago

Castillo or not, Wang is a better bet than 2/5, and maybe 4/5, of the Mets’ rotation. I’d certainly love to see them sign him.

5 years 7 months ago

Definitely. While Castillo is a poor fielder, it’s not like the Yankees were some elite defense when Wang was playing. A-Rod, Giambi, Cano, and pre-“I should improve my range” Jeter? If Wang is healthy and pitching like before, the plays should be easy enough that even a junky defense can get them.

Though personally, I am not convinced that Wang has recovered and I am not sure if I even believe he will recover.

mick07
5 years 7 months ago

Jim M…….Amazing comment…….Cano is oft mentioned as the slickest of all young 2nd basemen in the majors. A-Rod and Jeter, just winners and all-stars every year. Who is better at what they do? Jeez…….Also, Giambi is gone. Wanna talk about Tex?

bcimmet
5 years 7 months ago

Cano: slick player, makes lots of bone-headed choices.
A-Rod: All-Star, yes. Stellar defense at 3rd base? No way.
Jeter: Until this past season, his play at shortstop left a lot to be desired.
Giambi: We’re talking about when Wang was a valuable part of the Yankees rotation. That was in 2007 and 2008 — when Giambi was the New York first baseman, and Teixeira was playing for Texas/Atlanta/Anaheim.

5 years 7 months ago

In 2007, which was Wang’s best year, Cano, Giambi and ARod put together passable defense (Jeter was abysmal). That said, they are all below-average defenders (UZR doesn’t think much of Tex either, putting him at around average).

mick07
5 years 7 months ago

J.D.
 The problem I have with your posting is, it is not 2007. Jeter had a poor season. Big deal. This is 2010, and overall, Jeter is being touted as the second best shortstop of all time. That would be second only to the great Honus Wagner. I am a Yankee fan, and I do try to remain as objective as possible, but, to go back to 2007 to dog Jeter is wrong. Who, in your opinion, has a better infield than that of the Yankees? A-Rod, Jeter, Cano, and Tex look pretty good to us. See ya…….
Mick

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5 years 7 months ago

Jeter and A-Rod are perennial all-stars, yes, but their defense in recent years was less than exciting. Cano is a meh fielder forced to learn 2B on the job, his position coming up was 3B. Wang hasn’t pitched since Tex came in.

BaseballFan0707
5 years 7 months ago

Agreed. Pay no attention to Mick07, as he has not done his homework. Cano has only had one season where his range was above average (and every other season he was below average.) A-Rod has been up and down defensively (outside of last year, which was mostly due to the hip, if he was having a “bad” year offensively, he let it affect his defense as well.). I need not say anything about Jeter, as we all know that this past season he was finally good on defense. Teix does not need to be mentioned, as he wasn’t around when Wang was his old self. Though, just to mention him, he was average this year, more or less, but that could improve.

The thing about Wang is that he didn’t need a stellar infield defense. He just needed guys that could field a simple ground ball, as he was getting really routine GB outs with his hard 95mph+ sinker. The problem is, he lost about 5mph off of his fastball/sinker, which makes it a lot easier to take the ball down the line and up the middle. His mechanics are all out of whack, and it isn’t as simple as just recovering from injury for him.

Infield Fly
5 years 7 months ago

“for those who miss out on Sheets, better check to see if Luis Castillo or Michael Young is playing for your team before going after Wang. If so, you might want to save your money”So now Castillo is the equivalent of Mike Jacobs – at 2B? Let’s not overdo it there…although yeah, with any luck, Omar & the Wilpons will reconsider and bring in the O-Dawg.

5 years 7 months ago

Castillo has little-to-no range at 2B. Yes, at one point in his career he was a top defensive 2B, but those days are long gone.

Infield Fly
5 years 7 months ago

Yeah, I wouldn’t debate that (one of the reasons why, if scouting reports about Delgado’s defense are accurate, the Mets should not dream of re-signing him. Castillo would not be able to compensate for him – a point I made on another thread). I guess my thing is that beggars can’t be choosers, so at this point the Mets may well have to sign the likes of Wang, and take their chances with Castillo (since they seem to insist on it) or bite the bullet and look at the short-term 2B options available in the O-Dawg (who admittedly is not what he was either, but not quite Castillo), or Felipe López.

Damian0
5 years 7 months ago

I know it was a joke, but you know.. the rangers have a pretty good defensive infield. Andrus/Kinsler were among the best middle infield combinations in the league, Davis is solid (UZR is useless for 1b people), and Young was playing a pretty good 3b by the end of his first season there.

Utley4God
5 years 7 months ago

what do you think he means by substantial base?

grant77
5 years 7 months ago

4 million?

Utley4God
5 years 7 months ago

weird.. he made 5 mil last year and had (i assume) negative value. the richest team in baseball non-tendered him to avoid paying him between 5-6 mil but the agent thinks he’ll get a substantial base and substantial upside? what am i missing..

i miss brendan ryan's mustache
5 years 7 months ago

If Wang gets a base of 5-6mil this year, some team is really getting the shaft.

jrollpatrol08
5 years 7 months ago

great point…i was thinkin that earlier in the offseason when the yanks non-tendered wang. i thought LA would be the 1st to jump on it, since they are definitely a contender but had a quiet offseason, as far as new acquisitions. kinda thought the yanks would just wait to see what wang gets offered, and then come in and double it…like what the do with all their grossly overpaid players

5 years 7 months ago

I think that the mariners would be a great fit for wang

Byd
5 years 7 months ago

I agree. He’s the kind of #3 guy they need.

metsfan08
5 years 7 months ago

castillo isnt great defensively but he is not horrible, so he shouldnt stop the mets from signing wang. also wang may prefer to stay in NY because he already lives there so the mets have a pretty good chance on getting him.

Ferrariman
5 years 7 months ago

i think the mets HAVE to sign wang if they miss out on sheets if they want any chance at the WC or division.

Utley4God
5 years 7 months ago

but michael young won a gold glove……. oh right..

grant77
5 years 7 months ago

Agents always want more than their client is worth it seems. He’s probably asking for 4-5 mil that can go up to 8 or something, but I’d be surprised if he gets much more than 2.

TomJay
5 years 7 months ago

really? nobody is going to laugh at the headline. You all must love you some Wang!

i miss brendan ryan's mustache
5 years 7 months ago

LOVE the title.. Lol

nelson_c
5 years 7 months ago

How can this headline not be mocked yet? I know the phrasing is intentional. I also heard A-Rod and Piazza are considering Wang. I don’t believe the rumor that Eldric did, though, just a ploy to sell her story.

Utley4God
5 years 7 months ago

I would’ve preferred “6 teams interested in Wang”

i miss brendan ryan's mustache
5 years 7 months ago

I reaaaaally hope the giants are one of the teams. A “San Fransico looking at Wang” headline would make my day.

5 years 7 months ago

Or…

– “SF having trouble landing Wang”

– “Wang pleased by Met’s offer”

– “Wang’s demands hard to meet”

– “Jeter reunited with Wang”

cdubs
5 years 7 months ago

Not quite sure what to make of the Young/Castillo reference. If you’re saying they are bad at fielding ground balls, I can name a dozen worse, at each position. As far as Wang is concerned, he’d be #1 on my list. If he’s healthy, he’d be like life, death and/or taxes- a guaranteed thing. Ditto with Brandon Webb next year.

HoneyNutIchiro
5 years 7 months ago

The M’s have a catcher on the roster named Rob Johnson. Maybe he could be Wang’s personal catcher.

Wang to Johnson has a nice ring to it…

srm07
5 years 7 months ago

With a backup named Moore.

Moore, Johnson for Wang!

5 years 7 months ago

i wonder if the Philllies are interested, I know they spoke with his and Ben Sheets’ agent but i doubt they would go after them, the 5th starter will probably be Kenderick or Moyer if he doesnt retire and become the bullpen coach

ejr
5 years 7 months ago

Moyer’s status will determine a lot. He wasn’t as bad as he seemed last year (at home he was atrocious; on the road he was strong — or vice versa. I forget.). I think the Phillies would rather give Kendrick one last shot rather than sign Wang, even if Wang is a ground-ball machine.

jrollpatrol08
5 years 7 months ago

yea the phils 5th spot is a toss-up. moyer is owed money, so he will pitch in some capacity, but he may not be ready for start of season. so, kendrick may begin, when its not SOOOOO crucial to have those games won, just as his sort of trial and error period, again. if he does well, maybe he stays and moyer stays as the long-man bullpen guy. but it would be nice to see what wang can bring in. even though he wont be ready for opening day, a cheap investment here i think will pay out in the future. seriously, the guys only been around 5 seasons (partial seasons) he has plenty of time to bounce back and be a dominant pitcher again. if the price is right i say go for it

jshap219
5 years 7 months ago

I don’t think the Cardinals are going to sign another utility bat aside from maybe Jim Edmonds. If the Cardinals do get serious with Wang, we need to make sure that we have enough left to get at least 1 more reliever. Our main priority should be to find a solid reliever to help Franklin.

michealscott
5 years 7 months ago

Are these teams seriously considering Wang, or are they simply feeling Wang out to see how much money he wants…to gauge their own interest? If you can get Wang for pennies on the dollar, then that’s a decision that should be thought long and hard about. Some GM’s may want to take on Wang just to experiment, to kinda see what happens and if they like it or not, but others may have had their eyes on Wang all offseason.

rollinphillies
5 years 7 months ago

next headline: Amaro grabs Wang

jhawk90
5 years 7 months ago

I’m sure the Twins would take a long, hard look at Wang and see if there’s an opening he fits into.

/too easy

$1529282
5 years 7 months ago

For as much as the Twins are rumored to be looking for low-cost rotation options, I’m surprised they’re not linked to Chien-Ming. He’s an extreme ground ball pitcher, and considering our infield will consist of Punto, Hardy, Morneau, and likely a free agent infielder with a decent glove (Crede? Lopez?), our infield is likely to be very strong defensively.

Definitely prefer him to a bum like Washburn…