Odds & Ends: Kearns, Lowell, Dye, Strasburg

Links for Tuesday, as Hanley Ramirez digs himself into an even bigger hole after last night's jog


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53 Comments on "Odds & Ends: Kearns, Lowell, Dye, Strasburg"


aap212
5 years 3 months ago

So many responsibilities he had as GM, but Steve Phillips still found time to diddle interns. Man among boys he is.

5 years 3 months ago

The Tigers could use Lowell’s bat in that RBI rich 6th spot so that teams stop pitching around Cabrera and Boesch to get to Inge:

Tigers could have this lineup:

Ajax .828
Damon .794
Ordonez .884
Cabrera .930
Boesch 1.101
Lowell .810
Guillen .805
Laird .666
Everett .644

Here’s what the Tigers have now:

Ajax .828
Damon .794
Ordonez .884
Cabrera .930
Boesch 1.101
Inge .667
Laird .666
Sizemore .586
Everett .644

robhussle
5 years 3 months ago

I wish Hanley understood how good he would be if he just showed up to the park and put in as much work as a normal player. He has so many tools and so little heart.

BoSoxSam
5 years 3 months ago

I agree with Lowell, he doesn’t have a role there. It’s nice to have that right-handed bat to balance off Ortiz’s struggles against lefties, but as Ortiz starts to heat up, the more he’ll be playing against lefties again. Plus, Lowell is clearly unhappy with the lack of rhythm he’s dealing with, by only coming in to pinch-hit or to start against nasty lefties. And he’s an old guy taking up a roster slot that could be better used. Plus they’re paying him 12 mil, although that’s unlikely to change much even if he left. If I were the Red Sox, I’d talk candidly to Lowell about all this, and discuss trading him. If there is really not a single trade partner available, they need to considering DFA or releasing (or whatever makes more sense here; I’m not too learned on the logistics of things like this). They need the flexibility that roster slot gives them, and now with Ortiz hitting again you don’t have the argument of needing the second DH.

johnsilver
5 years 3 months ago

That flexibility spot would serve 2 things. 1st, would allow them to unload Billy Hall as well. have a feeling this will not happen until Boston gets closer to Jed Lowrie making his appearance and that could be quite some time, or they make a move for another decent utility guy who can play the middle infield positions. Willie Bloomquist would be REAL NICE at this point, if they could move Lowell to a team needing a little P/T offensive support and eat most of his salary.

BoSoxSam
5 years 3 months ago

Very true. Didn’t think of the Bill Hall angle; that would be great, he’s been extremely frustrating to watch.

ReverendBlack
5 years 3 months ago

Jed Lowrie is on track to become a free agent by like 2022 at this point.

5 years 3 months ago

I’d guess the Twins as the most likely landing spot for Mike Lowell. Twins have a lefty heavy lineup which Lowell would add balance to and 3B is really their main position where they need to upgrade offensively.

Plus, Lowell is a Yankee (.890 OPS career against) and White Sox (.926 career) killer.

Taskmaster75
5 years 3 months ago

Agent Jonathan Maurer? That’s a hell of a name to have in the baseball industry.

sacu
5 years 3 months ago

I don’t get it?

sacu
5 years 3 months ago

Sorry. That wasn’t meant to be a question but rather a statement.

Taskmaster75
5 years 3 months ago

Maurer sounds like Mauer, as in Joe Mauer, and his name is Jonathon. Funny to me anyway.

Some_guy_with_something_to_say
5 years 3 months ago

Nobody seems to have pointed out to Verducci the fact that Leake threw 161 innings last year and Strasburg only threw 128. The rule of 30 inning increases tells us that Leake is ready to throw 190 innings this year, and Strasburg should be held to 160. So it makes sense that the Nats want to make those innings last.

Some_guy_with_something_to_say
5 years 3 months ago

I wrote that not even remembering that I was talking about the Verducci effect!

5 years 3 months ago

Oh, Dusty, whose career will you ruin next?

5 years 3 months ago

50 bucks says Leake’s arm gets blown out by September.

5 years 3 months ago

I got 50 on August.

5 years 3 months ago

Well, someone is a gambler!

TwinsVet
5 years 3 months ago

A playoff contender? Dye’s list of demands keeps growing:

1. No less than $5m.
2. Everyday player.
3. No DH – everyday OF.
4. Play for a contender.

Enjoy your couch.

ReverendBlack
5 years 3 months ago

I can see him on it right now, playstation controller in hand, editing up his player attributes on MLB 10 The Show and forcing a contender to give him 3 years 45M with a player option.

hawkny1
5 years 3 months ago

Read somewhere that Red Sox’s Epstein & White Sox Willams talking …..

Martinez, Cameron and Hermidia for Pierzinski and Rios…

5 years 3 months ago

thanks for the laugh.

hawkny1
5 years 3 months ago

Your welcome.

Now get control of yourself….  This is one that I especially like..

The two Japanese pitchers, Dice-K and Okajima to Seattle for Cliff Lee.  Then, promote Dustin Richardson. The Mariners are Japanese owned and Lee wants out of Seattle after 2010.

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5 years 3 months ago

Can I hire you for my next party as our comedian for the night?

(Note that I am and was aware you were joking all along. I’m not ridiculing you =p)

hawkny1
5 years 3 months ago

You are pretty funny yourself…..maybe we should do a standup?

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Guest
5 years 3 months ago

“Especially when you consider he is on the Marlins, the team who rebuilt after a World Series. I mean, I don’t think I would take it 100% serious if I were him either”

Sounds like a nice work ethic.

johnsilver
5 years 3 months ago

Oh…

Fish announcers today were all over him for that latest outburst, they usually don’t get involved and polish over his transgressions a TON, but supposedly, 23 players NOT on Hanley’s side in this…

aap212
5 years 3 months ago

Well played, sir.

johnsilver
5 years 3 months ago

Lowell is wanting to get into SOME games, not be anyone’s regular 3B/1B, probably even expecting to be a regular DH. take a gander at the pathetic performances of what some teams are fielding this year in the NL, AL for reserve corner IF, even starting DH’s if you might in the AL and you would see his point.

pretty much any other team and Lowell would be getting far more AB’s than he is, but with Youkillis and beltre, both hitting exceptionally well and the team unfortunately sticking with ortiz even against LH pitchers, Lowell has been robbed of most chances.

Taskmaster75
5 years 3 months ago

Well, he’s struggling for playing time on a team that, at this point, doesn’t look primed for the playoffs. Why not ask for a release and sign for a playoff team?

0bsessions
5 years 3 months ago

If an employer is content to coast by rather than excel, why should the employee behave any differently?

That said, if Hanley is so miserable that he’s going to dog it, signing an extension was the last thing he ever should have done. The Marlins front office hasn’t shown any signs of giving a crap since about December of 2003.

0bsessions
5 years 3 months ago

“unfortunately sticking with ortiz even against LH pitchers, Lowell has been robbed of most chances. ”

You do realize Ortiz has a 1.009 OPS on the last month, right? Lowell’s riding the pine because Ortiz is extremely hot lately.

Taskmaster75
5 years 3 months ago

Dusty Baker strikes again!

johnsilver
5 years 3 months ago

Oh yes, watch Boston’s games as well (along with the marlins) and have seen ortiz bat get some life back into it, but if an injury does come into play at 1B,3B, or DH position, having a Lowell with some solid AB’s will be worth far more than one who is sitting every day of the week would it not? At least until he is may be moved later on during the season.

BoSoxSam
5 years 3 months ago

I agree. (had a dissenting comment earlier, but realized I misread your comment :P)

Just_MLB
5 years 3 months ago

ummm…what makes u think the mets wouldnt ?

vtadave
5 years 3 months ago

Just curious what percent Cody Ross and Josh Johnson give?

lakersdodgersyankees4life
5 years 3 months ago

the point is who will make these guys work if he doesnt? He is the leader, the catalyst, the star of that team. If the guys, especially the younger ones, see him BS plays, then they feel like it is OK and they BS them as well. Then you have a talented young team that is lazy and wont win crap. The fact that his excuse is ‘why should I do it when no one else does’ should show you he is wrong. He is the star and should be the captain, not the follower..

ReverendBlack
5 years 3 months ago

“Well, when the rest of your team from the other players to ownership don’t give 100%, why should you? It’s not like he’s going to get paid more if he starts to hustle 120%.”

Probably they just want him to give 100 instead of 75. He’s getting a little bit of money for his troubles it I think.

Just_MLB
5 years 3 months ago

o u mean the guy that traded 4 pieces of garbage for Johan Santana ?

Just_MLB
5 years 3 months ago

..in all seriousness, i dont see the mets making this move unless they agree to sign Lee to a 3 year 60 mil deal, with a 1 year 20 mil team option
.
Perez makes 12 mil in 2011, his contract goes away the next year. so i could see them backloading it, something like 10-25, 25.

by then beltran, k-rod, perez, castillo are off the books.

lee is signed from age 32-35.

Bernaldo
5 years 3 months ago

The “four pieces of garbage” you refer were four of the Mets Top Ten prospects at the time. And, the Twins are quite happy with Deolis Guerra progress. They traded one of those pieces of “garbage” (Kevin Mulvey) for Jon Rauch and that trade has worked out wonderfully. They used another piece of “garbage” (Carlos Gomez) to secure JJ Hardy who has given them excellent SS play all season.

The Mets stumbled into that trade because Santana used his no trade clause to force a deal either to New York or Boston which tied the Twins hands, not because that was the deal they wanted to make.

5 years 3 months ago

With Dusty Baker there, that’s a pretty big hope.

Some_guy_with_something_to_say
5 years 3 months ago

No kidding… Dusty will wear him out no matter how you count it.

Total Batters faced should be a good proxy for pitches thrown (unless you want to add up his pitch counts from college)… no reason to think that his pitches per batter would be substantially higher in the majors. You’re right that total pitches makes more sense, but there’s no research on what increase threshold a pitcher can take in terms of total pitches. There’s a body of research on IP. So, whether you want to look at TBF or pitches thrown, you need to convert into major league IP equivalent to tell you how many he can handle this year.

Yankees420
5 years 3 months ago

Technically not a simile since “like” or “as” isn’t used, but still awesome.

ReverendBlack
5 years 3 months ago

“If an employer is content to coast by rather than excel, why should the employee behave any differently?”

I’m surprised you can’t find an answer for this. But it should be clear anyway that he doesn’t HAVE to hustle. It should also be clear that if he doesn’t, he’s going to get a ton of crap for it.

The guy isn’t paid for performance. He’s on salary. Exertion is part of the game he’s salaried to play.

ReverendBlack
5 years 3 months ago

Who cares.

ReverendBlack
5 years 3 months ago

Yeah. I have to think if they were winning games, Mike wouldn’t be bitching.

ReverendBlack
5 years 3 months ago

Innings and batters faced are approximations of pitches thrown. But all teams have numbers of total pitches thrown available to them, so you’d have to think if they found that count on its own more useful than one of the other approximations, they’d be using it.

ReverendBlack
5 years 3 months ago

“I just feel that people are blowing things way out of proportion on this play.”

I won’t dispute this; the media eats it up. But as far as his stats and improvement, I think you’re setting the bar low if you’re not expecting a player to improve year-over-year. If I’m a GM, I offer a contract with that expectation. If I’m a player, and I expect to try to improve my weaknesses too. So I don’t think he gets extra credit for having done just that. But he does get regular credit.

By the same logic, he doesn’t get extra credit for hustling after balls. He gets regular credit, because that’s how the game he’s paid to play works. And when he doesn’t hustle, he gets criticism. Maybe too much, yes. But criticism IS due imo.

ReverendBlack
5 years 3 months ago

Yeah, that’s a really tough decision, especially for a team that is by no means a sure thing to remain in contention year after year. What you risk in pushing a young kid is a loss of performance in the future. But if you’re future isn’t a future in contention, the cost of that potential loss in performance is less … so maybe you’re tempted to push him.

Big market, every-year teams can afford to protect young arms because they can be sure the production they’re preserving for the next year or three will be meaningful.

A trade for another good arm makes sense at first glance, but only if they can afford to keep a guy like Lee around without being hamstrung by his salary going forward.

ReverendBlack
5 years 3 months ago

I suspect a lot of the guff he’s getting is because of the way he responded to the original criticism (benching). Had he kept quiet, it may have gone away. But I agree that if that’s the case, people should be questioning his mouth and not his work ethic.

He was thought to have attitude & motivation problems when he was a young prospect with the Red Sox. Those pretty much all disappeared, until now (not that I think he actually has either).

Just_MLB
5 years 3 months ago

so exactly why did the twins place mulvey twice in 2009 ?
the fact that u landed jon rauch who was also on waivers from arizona doesnt turn mulvey into anything more than what he is.

same goes for jj hardy and carlos gomez…jj is hitting .250 with 3 runs. last year ( when he was on waivers and benched ) he hit .229 and 11 hr’s….im sure his defense has been fine…carlos gomez was hitting a Ruthian .220 for you last year….lets face it…u traded garbage for garbage in both deals and so far u havent come up on the short end of the stick…lets not confuse that with actually believing mulvey/gomez/humber ( who was the top met pitching prospect in that deal ) are/were any good.

deollis guerra is the ONLY one that might really give u some good long term return.

when u consider Doc Halliday had the Jays in the same situation as Santana did the Twins, the Jays got a MUCH better return for Doc than the Twins did for Johan.