Zduriencik Looking For Offense

On Saturday, Jason Churchill of Prospect Insider looked at a bunch of potentially players who could help the Mariners' anemic offense.  Ms GM Jack Zduriencik talked to the AP about the situation yesterday:

"I've made a tremendous amount of phone calls. I continue to make phone calls. I've made several phone calls in the last three or four days.  But it's like hunting season. It's not hunting season right now. Nobody's selling."

White Sox GM Kenny Williams said something similar to Joe Cowley of the Chicago Sun-Times:

"I don't think anyone is really prepared to make any deals.  And any interest expressed in any players out there who are impact guys has been done for quite some time. There really isn't much substance to anything at this stage of the season. Another 30 games, and you'll start to see talk pick up."

It's true that we shouldn't expect many big trades in May.  I'm not sure why the Orioles and Royals wouldn't be willing to sell, but maybe they'd prefer to let the market develop. 

The Mariners might be able to improve the offense by replacing Ken Griffey Jr.  His .527 OPS is among the worst in baseball, but he's only had 63 plate appearances.  Zduriencik says Griffey still has some time to find his way out of the slump:  "You wait and see. You hope he gets on track.  It's early.  If he continues [to struggle] we will have to have some discussions with that."


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81 Comments on "Zduriencik Looking For Offense"


bigpat
5 years 2 months ago

It’s such an awkward situation with Griffey. He wasn’t very good last season, but they probably felt obligated to sign him since he didn’t want to retire yet, and now they feel like they have to play him even though he’s a terrible player. I think they need to just let him go, I’m sure he’ll understand.

Maybe they would trade for Paul Konerko, he could inject some pop into that lineup.

$1526717
5 years 2 months ago

“I’m not sure why the Orioles and Royals wouldn’t be willing to sell, but maybe they’d prefer to let the market develop. ”

It’s probably more an issue of no one wants crap, especially with some decent FA still available sitting at home.

j6takish
5 years 2 months ago

Billy Butler would fetch a nice haul, he’s only 23 though so it’s not like the Royals could get a ton of “young talent” for him

monroe_says
monroe_says
5 years 2 months ago

Griffey still has two more bobblehead nights to go … meanwhile, Mike Sweeney has none.

MadisonMariner
5 years 2 months ago

Exactly, monroe. :)

After the news of the last few days–the DFA/release of Byrnes and the addition of Langerhans and Wilson, and the release of Orta to make room for Langerhans on the 40-man roster–it was like there was a pink elephant in the room. That is to say, when was the MOST obvious move going to be made–that of DFA’ing/relesing Mike Sweeney, who doesn’t even have the fan appeal that Griffey has?

At this point, I’d take Sweeney’s outright release, along with the acquisition of a full-time DH such as Jack Cust, and the relegation of Griffey to occasional pinch hitter, keeping him around for now because of the fan appeal and upcoming bobble head promotions. It would be tacky to release him before then.

But this should be his(Griffey’s) final season in a Mariner uniform, unless he comes up with a way to make himself 10 years younger before the beginning of next season. 😉

5 years 2 months ago

Kila Ka’aihue makes all sorts of sense if the M’s are willing to dump Griffey/Sweeney and go with the Hawaiian at DH full time.
The Royals obviously want nothing to do with him, it could probably just be a “prospect swap.”

Koby2
5 years 2 months ago

If the Royals don’t want to use him, like they’ve shown so far in his career, then they ought to let him play somewhere else, since he’s not good enough to play with the major league team, apparently.

crunchy1
5 years 2 months ago

This is an intriguing idea. The Royals already have Butler, Hosmer, and possibly Moustakas as guys who are first basemen. There is only so much they can rotate around to DH and corner OF spots. Kila is also sabermetrically-friendly with his high walk rate and good power numbers — which should be attractive to Jack Z. Dayton Moore, on the other hand, is a sucker for toolsy, but raw players. I’m sure they could find a suitable swap where both guys end up happy- maybe Kila for Halman? In terms of how they value players, the Mariners could get Kila cheap, and if it doesn’t work out they can go after a more established player when they become available. Personally, despite the saber-friendly stats, I have my doubts on Kila and have concerns that his slow bat may make him a AAAA player — but it’s definitely worth a shot. And we all know that for Kila, that shot isn’t coming in KC.

crunchy1
5 years 2 months ago

This is an intriguing idea. The Royals already have Butler, Hosmer, and possibly Moustakas as guys who are first basemen. There is only so much they can rotate around to DH and corner OF spots. Kila is also sabermetrically-friendly with his high walk rate and good power numbers — which should be attractive to Jack Z. Dayton Moore, on the other hand, is a sucker for toolsy, but raw players. I’m sure they could find a suitable swap where both guys end up happy- maybe Kila for Halman? In terms of how they value players, the Mariners could get Kila cheap, and if it doesn’t work out they can go after a more established player when they become available. Personally, despite the saber-friendly stats, I have my doubts on Kila and have concerns that his slow bat may make him a AAAA player — but it’s definitely worth a shot. And we all know that for Kila, that shot isn’t coming in KC.

P.Fronts
5 years 2 months ago

But, but I thought ignoring offense while overvaluing defense was supposed to revolutionize the game.

raffish
5 years 2 months ago

lame

P.Fronts
5 years 2 months ago

But, but I thought ignoring offense while overvaluing minimal defense upgrades was going to revolutionize the game.

MadisonMariner
5 years 2 months ago

Lame for the 2nd time. :p

diehardmets
5 years 2 months ago

Ty Wiggington might be a good fit. Maybe Brian Roberts, but that would be a much larger package. Luke Scott could also work.

5 years 2 months ago

I like Wiggington, too. A RH DH bat that can hit would be wonderful, and it’s not like he’d cost a ton.

Muggi
5 years 2 months ago

HMMM….a return of Raul Ibanez?

Hehe I kid, probably too much money and not hitting enough to interest Jack Z right now, but it would solve SOO many problems for the Phillies. Brown probably SHOULD have more time in the minors, but he’s doing well so far – .349/.411/.651 8-2B 3-HR 8-BB 14-K at AA Reading.

Ibanez has a no-trade, but he always said he loved Seattle…and losing Ibanez for next year ($12.1m), even if they had to eat almost all his money for this season and got little to nothing in return, would give them a puncher’s chance at resigning Werth.

Devern Hansack
5 years 2 months ago

The Mariners can have Bill Hall back…

Please?

AisoRed
5 years 2 months ago

Bill Hall sucks. I’m glad we no longer have to put up with him in Milwaukee…

mattlock3
5 years 2 months ago

No.

boy9988
5 years 2 months ago

What about Tejada out of Baltimore and Dunn out of Washington? The Mariners don’t have much in the way of talent, but what they do have is money. They can absorb larger contracts to compensate for the lack of talent and both guys are free agents at the end of the year.

51bob2
5 years 2 months ago

What? Are you serious? Not much in the way of talent? Let me guess your team resides in the AL East.

boy9988
5 years 2 months ago

??? Seattle’s farm system really doesn’t have much talent. Most of it is in the low minors which isn’t worth all that much in trades because of how flaky those kinds of prospects are. Seattle cant empty out what is left of the cupboard without severely hurting the long term success of the franchise.

51bob2
5 years 2 months ago

Ok, for one, I have not or would not ever advocate “emptying the cupboard”. So, would you like me to prove you wrong in terms of pitching prospects at the AA level(Mauricio Robles, Michael Pineda, Nick Hill, Josh Fields). . . .or maybe you would like to hear about AAA/MLB starting pitching (Luke French, Garrett Olson, Jason Vargas, Ian Snell), perhaps you want to talk position players who are sitting around at AA/AAA (Michael Saunders, Mike Carp, Greg Halman, Alex Liddi, Carlos Triunfel, Carlos Peguero). Anyhow, you are insane to say that the M’s don’t have much talent down through the farm. Next time you think about making an assinine, stereotypical, AL East remark about a team, please do your self the favor to STOP, RESEARCH, THINK, and finally most importantly REALIZE THAT YOU ARE PROBABLY WRONG!

I by no means advocate pulling a Bavasiesque dump of prospects for a rental, but Big Z DOES have the means to pull off any trade he so desires.

5 years 2 months ago

but but but the mariners had the best offseason of any team and are going to make the world series!!!! /bandwagonm’sfans

raffish
5 years 2 months ago

it’s not like the AL West is running away from them.

bustercherrie
5 years 2 months ago

It is people like you that irritate me to no end on the comment sections. Because, if your team isn’t discussed it is the end of the world. So what, they had a good off season, who cares. It’s nice for once to see other teams making moves and trying to compete, god forbid anyone other than NYY, BOS or any of the large markets try to do anything.

boy9988
5 years 2 months ago

The sad thing is, Seattle has lost about 6 games because of their offense and they are still only 2.5 games out. I would put this pitching staff against any offense in the AL, but there isn’t a pitching staff outside of Baltimore that is bad enough to allow the M’s to score.

boy9988
5 years 2 months ago

The sad thing is, Seattle has lost about 6 games because of their offense and they are still only 2.5 games out. I would put this pitching staff against any offense in the AL, but there isn’t a pitching staff outside of Baltimore that is bad enough to allow the M’s to score.

5 years 2 months ago

I said it in the off season when they were done, they were going to need more offense.

JD
5 years 2 months ago

M’s could literally use an offensive upgrade at almost every single position.

I figure the M’s will go for rebound guys on short term deals and bad teams looking to sell already. So guys like Austin Kearns, Ty Wigginton and Jose Guillen are three guys I could the Mariners going after. Kearns in particular seems to make a lot of sense for the Mariners.

Not sure how much longer that leash on Griffey is going to be. They already cut loose on Byrnes, and Griffey sadly enough hasn’t been a whole lot better.

davidchu
5 years 2 months ago

common jays, sell the mariners on the benefits of vernon wells.

HoneyNutIchiro
5 years 2 months ago

love to see the M’s make a run at Josh Willingam. A good, solid RH bat that could be our leftfielder & give Kotchmann a day or two off a week.

I know the Nats are off to a decent start but I can’t imagine would be too high for a 30+ year old guy like him.

SpringtownRoyal
5 years 2 months ago

I know a guy with an 800 OPS, that also plays great in the field, but he is not your “prototypical” big bat…David DeJesus. Put him in Left, and Seattle’s defense and offense get better. All we ask for is either League, Lowe, White, or Kelly, plus a mid level prospect.

51bob2
5 years 2 months ago

I would say you have a deal. You can have White, and I am sure we can work something out on the mid level prospect! I would love to see DeJesus in Safeco.

mattlock3
5 years 2 months ago

You can have White for DeJesus ANY DAY. I’d love to see the Mariners screw the Royals in a trade like that, yet again :)

melonis_rex
5 years 2 months ago

One of League, Lowe, White, or Kelley? Yeah, that’s absurdly, absurdly dumb for the Royals. But then, I wouldn’t put it beyond Dayton Moore.

Shackleford Rusty
5 years 2 months ago

I don’t see the Natinals extending Dunn, so I think he’ll be high on Big Z’s wish list. The man was born to be a DH and has more than enough power to jack balls out of Safeco…

deadspy3
5 years 2 months ago

I wouldn’t mind the Mets selling high on Francouer for a pitcher

TwinsVet
5 years 2 months ago

Sheffield or Dye as immediate upgrades? Certainly they can’t do worse than Griffey…

It is interesting to see these “Pitching and defense!” teams like Chicago, Seattle, and Boston pay so dearly for neglecting offense…

raffish
5 years 2 months ago

It’s not neglecting offense, it’s A. not having it to begin with, and B. not wanting to overpay for it. For the M’s, improving the offense is a process that will probably take a few years.

TwinsVet
5 years 2 months ago

I’d argue offense was not overpaid this off-season, and in fact defense was grossly overpaid.

Look no further than Bay’s relatively small $60m deal, presumably because of shoddy defense; Thome’s $2m bargain, presumably because of zero defensive value; and the lack of interest in defensively-challenged but offensively decent bats in Dye and Shef.

omavricko
5 years 2 months ago

I’ve said Mike Lowell since beggining of the season. Lowell can play 1B, 3B, and DH. Put him at DH and occasionally cover for !B and 3B. Why not go for Adam Dunn. I think people forgets that he hits 40 hrs every god damn year. He is a offensive beast. Except for the K’s.