Dan Haren Rumors: Saturday

The Diamondbacks seem determined to move ace Dan Haren before his next start on Tuesday, and it appeared as though the Yankees became the favorite to land the right-hander yesterday. D-Backs' CEO Derrick Hall hedged his bets, saying there was no front-runner, and that other clubs had offers "of at least equal value out there." The Twins, Tigers, Phillies, and Cardinals all continue to maintain interest in Haren as well. 

With all that in mind, here is today's collection of Haren rumors, with more to come…

  • Haren's no-trade list probably won't matter in the way that it has for Roy Oswalt, as Haren wants to have a chance to win, a source told Olney (via Twitter).
  • Haren would prefer to stay in the west, a source told Heyman (via Twitter).  However, the hurler is willing to consider all suitors, which is why talks continue with clubs like Detroit and Minnesota.
  • It is possible that the Phillies will trade Jayson Werth in order to get the prospects necessary to land Haren, according to Jon Paul Morosi and Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports.  Alternatively, the D'Backs could take advantage where the Phillies' farm system is strongest: its lower levels.  Arizona is said to have interest in one single-A player in particular, 18-year-old slugger Jonathan Singleton.
  • The Tigers don't want to give up Jacob Turner for Haren and they are also on Haren's no-trade list, tweets Heyman.  He adds that Ted Lilly is a "possible second choice" for Detroit.
  • There have been no conversations today between the D'Backs and the Yankees, says Olney (via Twitter).
  • Arizona is asking the Tigers for pitchers Jacob Turner and Andrew Oliver, tweets Olney.
  • The Dodgers were actively talking to Arizona about Haren before Josh Byrnes was fired according to FoxSports.com's Ken Rosenthal (Twitter link). They are not a prominent suitor now.
  • ESPN's Buster Olney says the Yankees do not value Haren as much as they did Cliff Lee, and they consider him a risk because of his performance this year (Twitter links). Hence their reluctance to take on Haren's entire contract and deal a boatload of prospects.
  • The Yankees are willing to surrender Nova, pitching prospect Zach McAllister, and two prospects for Haren, but they will not eat money and include Chamberlain in a trade, tweets SI.com's Jon Heyman. McAllister's father works in Arizona's scouting department. In a second tweet, Heyman says the Yanks would be willing to pay all of the money left on Haren's deal, but they balked at taking Chad Qualls and Chris Snyder as well.
  • ESPN's Jayson Stark says the Yankees were "never close" to a deal for a Haren, having rejected a D-Backs' proposal that would have sent Joba Chamberlain, highly regarded pitching prospect Ivan Nova, and two others to Arizona. The Yanks countered with a package built entirely around prospects. Another sticking point is the $33MM left on Haren's contract, which the D-Backs wanted the Yanks to assume in full. New York, like other interested clubs, wanted the quality of the players in the deal to be dependent on how much of Haren's contract Arizona is willing to eat.
  • Sean Brennan, Mark Feinsand, and Roger Rubin of The New York Daily News spoke to a source who indicated that while the Yankees would like to swing a deal for Haren, they won't do so "at all costs."


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198 Comments on "Dan Haren Rumors: Saturday"


bonestock94
5 years 1 month ago

I can’t imagine the Yankees turning down this deal. Joba has become a disposable middle reliever and will probably never be a starter with this team. Nova is a back of the rotation arm. Haren is a #2 on this team under team control through 2012. Very dissapointed, much more than Lee since we’re not giving up nearly as much here.

Sleepykarl
5 years 1 month ago

Are you really giving up on Joba like that? A 2.67 FIP and 3.33 xFIP are not terrible and he is still young with a lot of upside (even as a starter if they were to juggle once more).

bonestock94
5 years 1 month ago

I agree, his peripherals are (shockingly) good in contrast to what we’ve seen. But the Yankees seem to have given up on him starting. If we can get a great starter through 2012 in exchange for Joba centric package, I’ll be thrilled.

5 years 1 month ago

Dan Haren’s gonna do a hell of a job for whoever he lands with. You heard it here first.

bonestock94
5 years 1 month ago

His BABIP is 50 points higher than his career number and his FIP is only 3.92. Even that is higher than his career number. He leads the NL in K’s. He’s a #1 in most clubs.

Sophist4
5 years 1 month ago

Totally agree. .344 BAbip is an anomaly as is his HR/FB. This guy is pitching as well as Cliff Lee right now. If he can keep it up the second half, it will be a big story.

malcolmec
5 years 1 month ago

Well his HR/FB ratio will only go up in that Wiffle Ball park the Yankees play in… though I suppose Arizona’s no canyon either.

malcolmec
5 years 1 month ago

Well his HR/FB ratio will only go up in that Wiffle Ball park the Yankees play in… though I suppose Arizona’s no canyon either.

5 years 1 month ago

Thank you. These are the stats I was looking for when I made my post.

Bad luck, and probably disenchanted because he’s playing for the only team not in the Playoff Race in the division.

I repeat: Hell of a job for whoever gets him.

DarthVader87
5 years 1 month ago

I’m thinking the Yankees pull the trigger soon enough. If that’s the actual offer the only thing I think is happening is the Yanks are trying to see if the D-Backs will eat some of the contract. I think he will be in New York by tomorrow if that is indeed the asking price.

verlander
5 years 1 month ago

Not like the Tigers would take Chris Snyder.

Oh, wait . . .

5 years 1 month ago

too bad the mets don’t wanna get in on him….They could use his bat

5 years 1 month ago

If the Yankees do acquire Haren I would think Vasquez would be traded. This would allow them to lock up the rotation and use him as trade bait to fix the bullpen or provide an additional bat. Overall it would be an extremely smart move that would not require their top prospects to be moved. Nova/Mcallister are both solid pitchers but are not top of the rotation guys. Neither will be missed. If a deal could be structured around them with the Yankees eating his salary this would be far better than the Cliff Lee trade. With Hughes going to the bullpen later in the season (or so it would seem) one more reliable bullpen arm and a reliable bat off the bench the Yankees are in good shape.

5 years 1 month ago

The way Joba and Hughes been pitching I say they would move Phil to the bullpen, solving 2 problems, the 8th inning and Hughes’ innings pitch

5 years 1 month ago

If the Yankees get Haren I’ll stop watching baseball.

MB923
5 years 1 month ago

So it’s bad for the Yankees to get Haren, but it was okay for the Phillies to get Lee last year and Halladay this year?

Jonathan Gallo
5 years 1 month ago

I like it because as a Yankee fan, I would be hella pissed to trade Joba.

Jonathan Gallo
5 years 1 month ago

I like it because as a Yankee fan, I would be hella pissed to trade Joba.

malcolmec
5 years 1 month ago

Seriously? I have a feeling Haren will struggle in New York and give up about 5 home runs per start. Kind of like Vazquez or to a lesser extent Burnett. The Yankees love bringing in strikeout pitchers who are homer prone, and then they act like it’s some sort of unexpected coincidence when those guys get bombed. Maybe if they had built a ballpark where the right field fence was actually in the outfield, that wouldn’t happen…

bonestock94
5 years 1 month ago

Haren already pitches in a band box, and Vasquez has done well since his horrible start.

malcolmec
5 years 1 month ago

Yea, he does… and look at his ERA. Would the Yankees really want that?

bonestock94
5 years 1 month ago

Look at his FIP and his BABIP. They both point towards a very inflated ERA.

malcolmec
5 years 1 month ago

Seriously? I have a feeling Haren will struggle in New York and give up about 5 home runs per start. Kind of like Vazquez or to a lesser extent Burnett. The Yankees love bringing in strikeout pitchers who are homer prone, and then they act like it’s some sort of unexpected coincidence when those guys get bombed. Maybe if they had built a ballpark where the right field fence was actually in the outfield, that wouldn’t happen…

HerbertAnchovy
5 years 1 month ago

Why would the D-Backs even want Sloba Chamberlain?

Yanks4l1fe
5 years 1 month ago

I really do not want the Yankees to trade Ivan Nova for Haren. I think Nova will be a solid Major League pitcher when his time comes, which i think is within 2 years.

5 years 1 month ago

Haren is a whole different pitcher than lee, i mean lee has been bounced around from team to team and has still put up awesome numbers. And he was mostly pitching in the American league. If the Yankees were to get Haren now, it would prevent them from signing lee in the offseason. all those yankee haters should be happy the yanks are getting haren instead of lee

verlander
5 years 1 month ago

//all those yankee haters should be happy the yanks are getting haren instead of lee//

What about Haren fans?

And what’s to say the Yanks won’t get Lee even if they get Haren? Can they afford both?

5 years 1 month ago

Its the Yankees, unfortunately for teams that build there rosters the right way, they can afford both.

RBomb2844
5 years 1 month ago

I don’t get all of the Yankee haters. I am a Royals fan and if anyone should be ticked off about all of the money they have it is me, being in one of the smallest markets there is, but you know what? That is the game. If the Yankees have the money/prospects to acquire Haren now and Lee in the offseason they should do it because any other team would. You cannot get mad at NY for doing what is best for there team. They have a huge fan base that expects them to win and if it was all about money they would win every single year (and while close, they don’t). Besides, Boston, Chicago, etc, also have huge payrolls and no one complains. Also, you cannot pay guys to play well together. It is more than just money. And, if money was no option for them they would have resigned Damon and Matsui last year at what they wanted but they didn’t, and told Damon to take a hike.

5 years 1 month ago

If the D-Back pick a portion of his salary I don’t see how the Yanks don’t sign Lee

Guest
5 years 1 month ago

With Pettitte possibly retiring and Vazquez hitting Free Agency, I would not be so sure.

RBIBaseball
5 years 1 month ago

Oh and your forgetting another important Yankee coming off the books: Kei Igawa. Its the last year of his contract. So between the three of them that’s roughly 30 million coming off the books at the end of this year. Haren I think makes 12 million next year? So 18 million, that’s plenty to get Cliff Lee. Also they may save a couple million hear or there when they re-work Jeter and Rivera’s contract. Plus Posada comes off the books next year so does Swisher. I think they keep Swisher, fans love him.

MB923
5 years 1 month ago

Don’t forget more than likely Jeter and Rivera will not be making more than what they make now ($22 mil and $15 mil I believe)

RBIBaseball
5 years 1 month ago

Oh yeah I know, that I think Jeter will probably get something around 18 million and Rivera probably around 12 million. But Rivera can have his 15 million he’s worth every penny. So that’s an extra 6 million there. I think Lee won’t get anything more that 18 million a year for 6 years, given he’s older, and I’ve heard that he wanted a 6 year deal.

RBIBaseball
5 years 1 month ago

Oh yeah I know, that I think Jeter will probably get something around 18 million and Rivera probably around 12 million. But Rivera can have his 15 million he’s worth every penny. So that’s an extra 6 million there. I think Lee won’t get anything more that 18 million a year for 6 years, given he’s older, and I’ve heard that he wanted a 6 year deal.

MB923
5 years 1 month ago

Sorry RBIBaseball, I meant to reply to GreinkeTheGreat, not you.

Muggi
5 years 1 month ago

Not that it really matters, since it’s the Yankees…but Lee is nt going to settle for $18m. Multiple sources reported Lee is looking for a deal comparable to CC, so it’s going to be 6-7yrs for at least 21-23m per

Sleepykarl
5 years 1 month ago

Looking and getting are two different things. Cc was 28, Lee will be 33.

Just_MLB
5 years 1 month ago

it would be a nice story if Jeter/Posada/Rivera all played for the league minimum to win one for the Boss…

lol
ok i just laughed at myself too

malcolmec
5 years 1 month ago

I think most of us are just instinctively unhappy whenever the Yankees get anyone…

Yankeeboy11
5 years 1 month ago

I don’t see how thats going to stop them from getting Lee. Pettitte is most likely going to retire this season and there not re-signing Vazquez so that leaves them with CC/AJ/Hughes and Haren if they got him. They would need 1 more pitcher.

Mauerneau
5 years 1 month ago

You think getting Haren would stop the Yankees from trying to get Lee? HA! Why, when they could just move Burnett and his 16.5 million dollar contract into a middle relief role??

melonis_rex
5 years 1 month ago

I will laugh when there’s 300MM worth of Yankees pitchers on the DL or pitching like scrubs. AJ Burnett is getting the ball rolling, I see.

5 years 1 month ago

I’d like to see the d-back try and get Montero back in a deal for Haren. They could move Jesus to 1B and deal Laroche to the Giants who are looking at a left handed bat anyways.

A top tier prospect in Montero and perhaps a midlevel pitching prospect for Laroche would be a good haul for the D-backs. They could probably get the Yanks to throw in a midlevel pitching guy as well.

bj82
5 years 1 month ago

Montero? not happening, I would be very surprise

bj82
5 years 1 month ago

Montero? not happening, I would be very surprise

Potrzeba
5 years 1 month ago

Joba, AAA prospect, hughes for Dan, plus money.

Sleepykarl
5 years 1 month ago

That has less chance than a Ramiro Pena for Haren straight up.

tucrazie
5 years 1 month ago

You have a valid point, if they do pick up a portion of the tab on Haren, they might still try to get Lee but are not necessarily have to. And that will help them a lot in negotiations. And if they do get Lee and Haren the rotation would be incredible for the Yankees. Sabathia Haren Lee Burnett and Pettitte/Hughes if Pettitte retires and if he doesnt I say they put Hughes in the Pen.

tucrazie
5 years 1 month ago

The only reason I put Haren in front of Lee is to split up the left and right arms. So you go Left right Left right and whomever is the fifth starter is going to be left/right

YanksFanSince78
5 years 1 month ago

Plain and simply put, Joba was rushed. He still has the talent to be a good starter or an excellent closer. He just needs a little more time. Seems like the D’backs feel so as well. Everyone called IPK a waste. A AAAA prospect at best and he’s doing ok for them. Fans and non-baseball people are too quick to dismiss a player. History is peppered with starters/closers who had great stuff but struggled to fufill their potential in their first 3 seasons and then took off. It’s also peppered with those who never filled their potential at all. We’ll see who’s right but to dismiss Joba as a failure is a joke and very short sighted.

If the Yanks can get this deal done with Nova, McAllister and two other prospects while taking on Haren’s entire salary then so be it. If they have to take on Snyder and Qualls as well, then who cares? Qualls has about $1.7 mil left on this years contract and is a FA at the end of the year. His numbers have consistantly sucked this year but he still throws a fastball and power sinker in the 92-94 mph range. Maybe working with Eiland can halp turn him around. If not, then release him. Is there really a big deal between assuming $33 mil in salary vs $35 mil? As for Snyder, a DH/C rotation of Posada, Snyder and Cervelli isn’t an awful thing to have. Also, worse comes to worse a 29 yo C who has 15-20 hr power and the ability to draw walks and hold a decent OBP isn’t exactly a difficult commodity to flip. He’s only owed $5.75 mil in 2011 and $6.75 mil option for 2012 w/ a $750k buyout. Even w/ signifigantly less ab’s than his counterparts (only 193 at bats) he ranks 8th among all C’s in HRS w/ 10, 9th in OBP for all C’s w/ at least 150 ab’s and 9th in walks. If they can’t use him then I’m sure we can easily flip him to a team in need of a power hitting C w/ plate discipline. Detroit (over Avila of Laird) and White Sox (over Pierzynski and Castro) could use an offensive upgrade at C. Either way, using or moving SNyder wouldn’t be a problem.

If the deal, is in fact, Nova, McAllister and two other prospects (not named Betances, Romine, Brackman or Banuelos) for Haren, Qualls and Snyder and we pay all the money then let’s take this pig to the market and get this deal done!

RBIBaseball
5 years 1 month ago

I think Phelps should be on that untouchable list, since he’s really good.

YanksFanSince78
5 years 1 month ago

I’m a fan just as you are so please don’t take what I say personally. Phelps’ numbers and his rapid movement reminds me a lot of IPK. IPK’s fastball topped out around 90 mph where as Phelps is around 92 touching 94 on occasion. Both guys seem like smart, control oreintated pitchers who know how to pitch and maximize their stuff. People crucified IPK and made him out to be AAA fodder because, after maybe 200 IP in the minors, he didn’t come up to the majors and win 20 games. I hate to lable prospects untouchable based on stats alone. No one is untouchable. Phelps can be the real deal and I would love to keep him but we should all be a little more comfortable with what Haren can do vs a guy with no mlb experience.

YanksFanSince78
5 years 1 month ago

I’m a fan just as you are so please don’t take what I say personally. Phelps’ numbers and his rapid movement reminds me a lot of IPK. IPK’s fastball topped out around 90 mph where as Phelps is around 92 touching 94 on occasion. Both guys seem like smart, control oreintated pitchers who know how to pitch and maximize their stuff. People crucified IPK and made him out to be AAA fodder because, after maybe 200 IP in the minors, he didn’t come up to the majors and win 20 games. I hate to lable prospects untouchable based on stats alone. No one is untouchable. Phelps can be the real deal and I would love to keep him but we should all be a little more comfortable with what Haren can do vs a guy with no mlb experience.

RBIBaseball
5 years 1 month ago

I didn’t take anything personally, I agree with you. Also the reason why Kennedy was crucified was because after that start he made against the angels, where he got rocked and said that he gave it his best. Wrong answer to tell New York fans. Also, I believe he couldn’t handle the pressures of New York.

bj82
5 years 1 month ago

Yanks are not taking Qualls and Snyder and paying Haren’s full salary.

YanksFanSince78
5 years 1 month ago

And you say so why? Again, Qualls is a FA at the end of the year and is only owed about $1.7 mil this year. What’s the difference between assuming a total of $33 mil vs $35 mil? And keep in mind that’s spread out over a couple of years. Yanks may lose Pettite to retirement next year and can let Vazquez walk if they want. If Haren returns to form then at $13 mil he’s a steal. Synder is a commodity, as is Joba. If the Yanks can come out of this deal with Haren, Snyder and KEEP Joba then they have done a good job for themselves, if for no other reason than seeing them as possible pieces for a trade in the offseason. Quall’s salary would have zero effect on us and Snyder can be moved easily if needed. A power hitting 29 year old C with a good OBP owed $12 mil over the next 2 years is not hard to trade.

bj82
5 years 1 month ago

I say so because it was reported yesterday that the Yanks didn’t want to take Qualls or Snyder. Also if the Yanks are going to give up top pitching prospects AZ should pick up some of the money.

YanksFanSince78
5 years 1 month ago

Well it’s quite clear that the hold up in the deal is the Dbacks want Joba and the Yanks to take on either or both of Qualls and Snyder. If the Yanks can come to a compromise of keeping Joba and taking on to easily absorbable and/or moveable contracts then which seems to make the most sense? Ding, ding, ding. Keep Joba, assume Qualls 2010 balance of about $1.7 mil and keep or flip Snyder for other needs. Nova and Phelps are good pitching prospects but neither has been seen as a #1 or #2 caliber pitcher. That could change but for now Haren is a #1 or #2 on most staffs and is controled for 2 more or 3 more years.

YanksFanSince78
5 years 1 month ago

Well it’s quite clear that the hold up in the deal is the Dbacks want Joba and the Yanks to take on either or both of Qualls and Snyder. If the Yanks can come to a compromise of keeping Joba and taking on to easily absorbable and/or moveable contracts then which seems to make the most sense? Ding, ding, ding. Keep Joba, assume Qualls 2010 balance of about $1.7 mil and keep or flip Snyder for other needs. Nova and Phelps are good pitching prospects but neither has been seen as a #1 or #2 caliber pitcher. That could change but for now Haren is a #1 or #2 on most staffs and is controled for 2 more or 3 more years.

bj82
5 years 1 month ago

I say so because it was reported yesterday that the Yanks didn’t want to take Qualls or Snyder. Also if the Yanks are going to give up top pitching prospects AZ should pick up some of the money.

bj82
5 years 1 month ago

Yanks are not taking Qualls and Snyder and paying Haren’s full salary.

bonestock94
5 years 1 month ago

It’s not that the knowledgeable fans have given up on Joba, it’s just that it seems like the Yankees have.

YanksFanSince78
5 years 1 month ago

Plain and simply put, Joba was rushed. He still has the talent to be a good starter or an excellent closer. He just needs a little more time. Seems like the D’backs feel so as well. Everyone called IPK a waste. A AAAA prospect at best and he’s doing ok for them. Fans and non-baseball people are too quick to dismiss a player. History is peppered with starters/closers who had great stuff but struggled to fufill their potential in their first 3 seasons and then took off. It’s also peppered with those who never filled their potential at all. We’ll see who’s right but to dismiss Joba as a failure is a joke and very short sighted.

If the Yanks can get this deal done with Nova, McAllister and two other prospects while taking on Haren’s entire salary then so be it. If they have to take on Snyder and Qualls as well, then who cares? Qualls has about $1.7 mil left on this years contract and is a FA at the end of the year. His numbers have consistantly sucked this year but he still throws a fastball and power sinker in the 92-94 mph range. Maybe working with Eiland can halp turn him around. If not, then release him. Is there really a big deal between assuming $33 mil in salary vs $35 mil? As for Snyder, a DH/C rotation of Posada, Snyder and Cervelli isn’t an awful thing to have. Also, worse comes to worse a 29 yo C who has 15-20 hr power and the ability to draw walks and hold a decent OBP isn’t exactly a difficult commodity to flip. He’s only owed $5.75 mil in 2011 and $6.75 mil option for 2012 w/ a $750k buyout. Even w/ signifigantly less ab’s than his counterparts (only 193 at bats) he ranks 8th among all C’s in HRS w/ 10, 9th in OBP for all C’s w/ at least 150 ab’s and 9th in walks. If they can’t use him then I’m sure we can easily flip him to a team in need of a power hitting C w/ plate discipline. Detroit (over Avila of Laird) and White Sox (over Pierzynski and Castro) could use an offensive upgrade at C. Either way, using or moving SNyder wouldn’t be a problem.

If the deal, is in fact, Nova, McAllister and two other prospects (not named Betances, Romine, Brackman or Banuelos) for Haren, Qualls and Snyder and we pay all the money then let’s take this pig to the market and get this deal done!

YanksFanSince78
5 years 1 month ago

Also, as to Javier Vazquez. Someone suggested that he be traded if Haren is acquired. Why? The sole reason why the Yanks are pursuing Haren and tried to trade for Lee is because our rotation had some questions. Sabathia is solid, Hughes has innings limitations he’s going to be facing late August, Pettite is on the DL for another 3-4 weeks and AJ has struggled. Vazquez on the other hand has been solid of late. If anything I think the Yanks would allow Pettite as much time as needed to get healthy and go with a rotation of CC, Haren, AJ, Vazquez and Hughes throughout the month of August. Figure Hughes would probably be around 150 IP by the time Pettite is suppose to be ready. If that’s the case then they might decide to send Hughes to the pen and maybe resume the 8th inning role if they haven’t found and obvious guy for the role and try to keep his innings total around 180 IP for the year. Then if they make the playoffs they can go w/ a rotation of CC, Haren, Pettite and either AJ or Vazquez as the 4th starter and the other as the long man, especially if Aceves isn’t back yet.

5 years 1 month ago

Everyone, Yankees included should really just go after a guy like Brett Myers if Arizona is treating Haren likes hes Roy Halladay.

5 years 1 month ago

Everyone, Yankees included should really just go after a guy like Brett Myers if Arizona is treating Haren likes hes Roy Halladay.

BoomDizzle
5 years 1 month ago

Of course the Yankees don’t want to give up Chamberlain. In their mind the entire league is their farm system and you are just supposed to give up players at minimal cost to help their team. The Yankees and Red Sox make me ill.

YanksFanSince78
5 years 1 month ago

Comments like this are idiotic. No team, ever just conceeds to giving up young assets. All of them, regardless of the eventual outcome, try to get the most while giving up the least. Please stop making it sound as if the Yanks and Sox are the only teams that think that way. If other teams didn’t think that way as well then the trading of stars would be much easier than it actually is.

5 years 1 month ago

Haren leads the majors with 161 hits allowed and is second in home runs with 23 allowed….. thats saying something

TradeYouk
5 years 1 month ago

That he’s been unlucky? That he pitches a lot of innings? That he pitches in a hitters park?

Roy Halladay is second in the league in hits allowed. DFA him.

Yankees009
5 years 1 month ago

Umm… Opponents hit .285 against Haren this year.

Halladay has thrown 21 more innings and allowed 12 fewer hits than Haren for a .244 BAA.

Haren has also allowed 23 home runs this year to Halladay’s 13, so when he gives up the hits they do a lot more damage.

TradeYouk
5 years 1 month ago

Haha, I was being facetious, I wouldn’t say Haren, even when his numbers reflect his ability, is better than Halladay. The point was that hits allowed isn’t the best stat to use when saying a pitcher isn’t any good. Obviously Haren hasn’t had as good as year this year as he has the past few years, but a lot of it has to do with bad luck. His peripherals have been great, but fly balls are leaving the park at a higher rate than league average or Haren’s career average, and more balls are falling in for hits than league average or Haren’s career average. Saying Haren has the most hits and HRs allowed and therefor is a bad pitcher or not worth $12.5 million the next 2 seasons leaves a lot out of the analysis.

Haren has given up 13 of his HRs at Chase Field and 5 in Coors, both parks inflate Home Run numbers according to park factors.

5 years 1 month ago

unlucky? Hes been getting hit hard for an entire calender year now. In the NL West… good luck in the AL east.

TradeYouk
5 years 1 month ago

He has a BABIP of .350. League average is .300 and his career average is .304. I would say he’s been pretty unlucky.

Batters are hitting the same amount of line drives off of him as last season, with a 2.2% increase in fly balls (and in turn a 2.2% decrease in ground balls). Chances are that the fly ball numbers and Home Runs will come down closer to his career mark and you will see an improvement from Haren.

TradeYouk
5 years 1 month ago

That he’s been unlucky? That he pitches a lot of innings? That he pitches in a hitters park?

Roy Halladay is second in the league in hits allowed. DFA him.