Dan Haren Rumors: Friday

The D’Backs have started exchanging names with teams about possible Dan Haren trades and the Tigers, Yankees, Phillies, Cardinals and Twins appear to have varying degrees of interest in the righty. That’s just the abbreviated version of what we heard yesterday, but there’s more. The D’Backs’ asking price? High-quality major league-ready pitching. With that in mind, here are today’s Dan Haren rumors, with more to come:

  • Updating his earlier story, Magruder quotes Hall, the D'Backs CEO, as saying: "There are some other teams involved that have deals of at least equal value out there. I would not categorize the Yankees as a front-runner."
  • In a piece for FOXSportsArizona.com, Jack Magruder notes that the Yankees aren't one of the teams that require Haren's approval. Magruder also suggests a trade with the Yanks could involve New York taking on other players that the D'Backs would like to move, such as Aaron Heilman, Chad Qualls, or Chris Snyder.
  • D'Backs' CEO Derrick Hall tells Piecoro (Twitter link) that there's no clear front-runner for Haren and reiterates "nothing [is] imminent." However, most reports still indicate that the Yanks are the favorite. AOL FanHouse's Frankie Piliere (via Twitter) and Morosi both hear that Ivan Nova could be a key piece in a Haren trade with New York.
  • Expanding on his earlier tweet, Price hears that nothing is imminent between the Yankees and Arizona, but that the D'Backs "seem determined" to move Haren before his next start on Tuesday.
  • According to Rosenthal, the Yankees appear to be the front-runners for Haren now, with the D'Backs telling clubs that they're in "advanced negotiations" with one team. Ed Price of AOL FanHouse adds (via Twitter) that the Cardinals may be out of the Haren sweepstakes.
  • The Yankees are actively talking to the D’Backs about Haren, according to Jayson Stark of ESPN.com. If the Yanks can acquire Haren for prospects, Stark says they are poised to accelerate talks.
  • The Cardinals aim to add an innings-eater this summer, though not necessarily an ace, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports.
  • The Tigers and Twins, who both have interest in Haren, are on his no-trade list, according to Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports. Haren would also have to approve a trade to the Rays or Reds. Bob Nightengale of USA Today first reported that the Twins were on Haren's list. 
  • The D'Backs have told rival teams that they are intent on moving Haren before the deadline, according to Olney (via Twitter).
  • MLB executives tell ESPN.com’s Buster Olney that the D’Backs seem much more willing to deal Haren these days. Some talent evaluators believe the Tigers would have a tough time building an offer for Haren without including pitching prospect Jacob Turner.
  • A D'Backs source tells Nick Piecoro of the Arizona Republic that expectations have shifted and it seems more likely that the D'Backs will trade Haren.


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250 Comments on "Dan Haren Rumors: Friday"


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Muggi
4 years 11 months ago

How about we move the “high quality” part to the prospects….Blanton, Singleton, Trevor May for Haren.

C’MON DO IT! please?

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zonis
4 years 11 months ago

You’d have to flip Blanton for prospects first, most likely. I doubt the Diamondbacks, trading away an ace, would want to acquire an expensive mid rotation starter in Blanton.

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Muggi
4 years 11 months ago

Yeah I meant it completely tongue-in-cheek, no one wants Blanton right now

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4 years 11 months ago

Phillies arent moving Singleton.

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4 years 11 months ago

As a Phillies fan, I’d rather have him than Oswalt. I want him!

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brigr
4 years 11 months ago

I, as a phils fan, would also rather have Haren. What do you think it would take to get him?

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4 years 11 months ago

I’m sure the D Backs would start with Dom Brown, but the Phils will never do that.(fingers crossed hoping they won’t) I’m sure a package around Haap, Kendrick, and a low level prospect or two would get it done. Chris Singelton maybe?

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oxfrat1665
4 years 11 months ago

If Werth goes out a Type A FA, he could be used in the trade. The draft picks would be helpful with Arizona trying to reload.

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brigr
4 years 11 months ago

pretty sure dbacks would never agree to that. they do not need werth as a rental. contending teams do, i.e; the rays.

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Muggi
4 years 11 months ago

Yeah Werth would probably bring more value than the two draft picks from a contender anyway, even with his slump.

He’d need to go to the Rays for prospects, then flip those plus a smaller piece or two from the Phils for Haren.

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JPB705
4 years 11 months ago

They can’t trade both Happ and Kendrick. Moyer just went out indefinitely, possibly done forever. Trading those two would leave a four man rotation with no viable internal option (please don’t say Worley). I think Happ, Gose, and Singleton (blocked by Howard) is enough to get the D’Backs to at least start listening.

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brigr
4 years 11 months ago

or possibly a prospect that the phils get from trading werth (assuming they do so).

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JPB705
4 years 11 months ago

Of course that’s a possibility. If they do trade Werth, however, it could just replenish whichever prospects they send to AZ. It would be a net result of zero, but not necessarily a three way deal, if that makes sense.

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brigr
4 years 11 months ago

Yeah, don’t really see how they don’t trade Werth. Kinda glad it is his FA year at this point in time since he allows the phils can ultimately get a new starting pitcher without depleting the farm system.

Guest
4 years 11 months ago

I hear what you’re saying about both Haap and Kendrick, but to me it seems like his ship has sunk with the Phillies and they’re probably tired of waiting for him to be something useful. Do you think Carpenter would be much worse than Kendrick? I say give him a shot to see what he has.

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JPB705
4 years 11 months ago

You’re right. KK will never be more than a serviceable AAA pitcher. I guess Carpenter couldn’t do much worse. All of their promising pitching prospects are in high A ball, so it’ll be a few years before we see them. Tough spot they’re in now that this season played out the exact opposite way from what was expected.

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4 years 11 months ago

Yeah, they just fired their hitting coach for lack of offense. If they end up trading Werth for prospects, and don’t get a pitcher, then you know the Phillies are waving the white flag.

On a plus note, if the Phils do make a deal, I heard Baseball America has the Phillies Low Level Minor League players rated the highest in MLB.

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Muggi
4 years 11 months ago

Yeah that BA thing was in a blog post a couple days ago…I can’t remember the exact quote, but it was something to the effect of, “no team in baseball has more talent on their A-ball teams than the Phillies.”

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BajaPete
4 years 11 months ago

Yup…I heard the same thing about the Low-A prospects. I just wait until Baseball America reveals how many good young players the Phillies have stashed away in Little League and T-Ball!

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4 years 11 months ago

From a Baseball America chat today:

Ben (Leland Grove): If you had to pick one team’s farm system as the most impressive overall at present, who would it be and why?

Matthew Eddy: I’m really coming around on the Royals. I liked Moustakas, Hosmer, Myers and Lamb perhaps more than most coming into the year, and they certainly have done nothing to extinguish that flame this year. The Braves and Phillies would also have to be in the discussion, but what separates the Royals is the two elite hitters at the upper levels.

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Catztradamus
4 years 11 months ago

Unless they flip Werth to Tampa for Wade Davis. Then you give Happ and kendrick

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4 years 11 months ago

I still don’t understand anyone saying that Singleton is blocked by Howard. The kid is only 18 years old and one of the top low-level prospects in the system. The guy that is blocked by howard is matt rizzoti who is raking this year in AA (.347 15hr 56rbi)

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dirtydez
4 years 11 months ago

I hope we go for Brown but Happ/KK plus prospects would prob be enough. I heard on the radio here that AZ has big interest in Happ plus this team has been desperate for a quality young lefty for years.

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4 years 11 months ago

what do you mean go for brown? lol

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4 years 11 months ago

what do you mean go for brown? lol

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zonis
4 years 11 months ago

To me, the Haren situation seems like the perfect fit for a 3 way trade, for example, if my Oakland Athletics got into the mix.

The Diamondbacks want Pitching back, preferably near or MLB pitching that is good and under team control for a while. Potential suitors are likely more interested in gaining said pitching rather than giving it away, and perhaps are also better at producing offense than pitching, which would be one reason necessitating Haren’s acquisition. It would make sense if a third team, for example as I said, the A’s, who have a lot of pitching but need offense, to jump into the trade and provide the pitching aspect for the Dbacks, get offensive pieces back, and allow the third team to make away with Haren.

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Kitfisto007
4 years 11 months ago

Oakland does have an impressive array of ML ready pitchers like Mazarro, Outman, and Gonzalez. I would be surprised if Oakland got involved, bit it would fit.

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zonis
4 years 11 months ago

I gave Oakland as an example because they are the team I follow, and thus know that they have a lot of pitching depth (and a major Offensive need), but any third team that fulfills that requirement could be used.

Can anyone else think of a team that has pitching depth that they’d like to convert to offense? After all, this is the perfect opportunity for such, since Prospect for Prospect trades are so rare (which is what made the Garza trade so surprising at the time).

The Marlins perhaps? The Giants? Mariners?

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Taskmaster75
4 years 11 months ago

The Giants could probably use Werth atm, so they would be a logical choice.

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nick1538
4 years 11 months ago

I remember that Beane was high on Danny Valencia and wanted him for Orlando Cabrera. Perhaps a 3-way deal with MN/Oak/AZ? Arizona gets pitching from Oakland and Minnesota, Oakland gets Valencia and some other prospects from MN and MN gets Haren. Could it work?

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kevintbach
4 years 11 months ago

i think that could work. the Twinkie fans up here would like it.

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zonis
4 years 11 months ago

Its possible. Its also possible that the deal with Valencia may also be expanded to include Kouzmanoff in that case, since the Twins would presumably need a 3B as well (or am I far behind on the 3B/Twins situation).

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nick1538
4 years 11 months ago

No, I think you are on the right track with that idea… Maybe include someone like Ben Revere?

Something like: Valencia and Revere to Oakland, Outman and Slowey to Arizona, Kouzmanoff and Haren to Minnesota

Guest
4 years 11 months ago

We’re giving up Valencia, Revere, and Slowey for Haren and Kouzmanoff?? I think Oakland runs away with this deal.

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DetroitTigersGeek
4 years 11 months ago

“Some talent evaluators believe the Tigers would have a tough time building an offer for Haren without including pitching prospect Jacob Turner.”
Duh… These guys get paid for doing this…?
Anyway, the Tigers farm system is virtually barren of “top tier” prospects. Since the D’Backs are looking for premium talent, the Tigers would have to give up premium talent (duh). Jacob Turner, being one of the few “premium talent” players in their system would be a start. If the Tigers do deal for Haren (doubtful), it would be a major coup if Turner or Porcello (not both, so… it might not get done) are NOT in the deal.
Seriously, do you think DD is going to go up to the D’Backs GM and say, “Hey, so, no Turner or Porcello, but, hey! you can have Furbush! and Villarreal! No? What do you mean you don’t want a #3 starter and a reliever? That’s some of the best talent we got after Turner and Porcello. Darn.”

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RestoreTheRoar
4 years 11 months ago

One or the other..but no way DD will give up both Rick AND Jacob. They both have ace-caliber potential, and the Tigers made it clear this past off season they are looking to contend this year AND the next several…hence why they paid Cabrera and Verlander craploads of cash for several years.

Like the Redwings, Illitch builds the team to contend every year. They wont empty their pitching pockets just to score a guy for the 2nd half.

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verlander
4 years 11 months ago

//They wont empty their pitching pockets just to score a guy for the 2nd half.//

Not even if that guy has two more years, plus an option?

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verlander
4 years 11 months ago

I could see both Turner and Porcello leaving if they also got Drew from Arizona. But that seems unlikely.

Also, Leyland would think it’s horses**t.

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gamaize
4 years 11 months ago

doubt Porcello gets moved. He is under control for less money more years than Haren. Porcello has the talent to match Haren’s success in the MLB.

I’m not opposed to trading Turner but I don’t see the Tigers being able to match what other teams can offer.

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verlander
4 years 11 months ago

Guess moving Porcello depends on whether or not the Tigers think three or so years of Haren is worth more/less than five years of Porcello.