Dan Haren Rumors: Friday

The D’Backs have started exchanging names with teams about possible Dan Haren trades and the Tigers, Yankees, Phillies, Cardinals and Twins appear to have varying degrees of interest in the righty. That’s just the abbreviated version of what we heard yesterday, but there’s more. The D’Backs’ asking price? High-quality major league-ready pitching. With that in mind, here are today’s Dan Haren rumors, with more to come:

  • Updating his earlier story, Magruder quotes Hall, the D'Backs CEO, as saying: "There are some other teams involved that have deals of at least equal value out there. I would not categorize the Yankees as a front-runner."
  • In a piece for FOXSportsArizona.com, Jack Magruder notes that the Yankees aren't one of the teams that require Haren's approval. Magruder also suggests a trade with the Yanks could involve New York taking on other players that the D'Backs would like to move, such as Aaron Heilman, Chad Qualls, or Chris Snyder.
  • D'Backs' CEO Derrick Hall tells Piecoro (Twitter link) that there's no clear front-runner for Haren and reiterates "nothing [is] imminent." However, most reports still indicate that the Yanks are the favorite. AOL FanHouse's Frankie Piliere (via Twitter) and Morosi both hear that Ivan Nova could be a key piece in a Haren trade with New York.
  • Expanding on his earlier tweet, Price hears that nothing is imminent between the Yankees and Arizona, but that the D'Backs "seem determined" to move Haren before his next start on Tuesday.
  • According to Rosenthal, the Yankees appear to be the front-runners for Haren now, with the D'Backs telling clubs that they're in "advanced negotiations" with one team. Ed Price of AOL FanHouse adds (via Twitter) that the Cardinals may be out of the Haren sweepstakes.
  • The Yankees are actively talking to the D’Backs about Haren, according to Jayson Stark of ESPN.com. If the Yanks can acquire Haren for prospects, Stark says they are poised to accelerate talks.
  • The Cardinals aim to add an innings-eater this summer, though not necessarily an ace, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports.
  • The Tigers and Twins, who both have interest in Haren, are on his no-trade list, according to Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports. Haren would also have to approve a trade to the Rays or Reds. Bob Nightengale of USA Today first reported that the Twins were on Haren's list. 
  • The D'Backs have told rival teams that they are intent on moving Haren before the deadline, according to Olney (via Twitter).
  • MLB executives tell ESPN.com’s Buster Olney that the D’Backs seem much more willing to deal Haren these days. Some talent evaluators believe the Tigers would have a tough time building an offer for Haren without including pitching prospect Jacob Turner.
  • A D'Backs source tells Nick Piecoro of the Arizona Republic that expectations have shifted and it seems more likely that the D'Backs will trade Haren.


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250 Comments on "Dan Haren Rumors: Friday"


Muggi
5 years 12 days ago

How about we move the “high quality” part to the prospects….Blanton, Singleton, Trevor May for Haren.

C’MON DO IT! please?

zonis
5 years 12 days ago

You’d have to flip Blanton for prospects first, most likely. I doubt the Diamondbacks, trading away an ace, would want to acquire an expensive mid rotation starter in Blanton.

Muggi
5 years 12 days ago

Yeah I meant it completely tongue-in-cheek, no one wants Blanton right now

5 years 12 days ago

Phillies arent moving Singleton.

5 years 12 days ago

As a Phillies fan, I’d rather have him than Oswalt. I want him!

brigr
5 years 12 days ago

I, as a phils fan, would also rather have Haren. What do you think it would take to get him?

5 years 12 days ago

I’m sure the D Backs would start with Dom Brown, but the Phils will never do that.(fingers crossed hoping they won’t) I’m sure a package around Haap, Kendrick, and a low level prospect or two would get it done. Chris Singelton maybe?

oxfrat1665
5 years 12 days ago

If Werth goes out a Type A FA, he could be used in the trade. The draft picks would be helpful with Arizona trying to reload.

brigr
5 years 12 days ago

pretty sure dbacks would never agree to that. they do not need werth as a rental. contending teams do, i.e; the rays.

Muggi
5 years 12 days ago

Yeah Werth would probably bring more value than the two draft picks from a contender anyway, even with his slump.

He’d need to go to the Rays for prospects, then flip those plus a smaller piece or two from the Phils for Haren.

JPB705
5 years 12 days ago

They can’t trade both Happ and Kendrick. Moyer just went out indefinitely, possibly done forever. Trading those two would leave a four man rotation with no viable internal option (please don’t say Worley). I think Happ, Gose, and Singleton (blocked by Howard) is enough to get the D’Backs to at least start listening.

brigr
5 years 12 days ago

or possibly a prospect that the phils get from trading werth (assuming they do so).

JPB705
5 years 12 days ago

Of course that’s a possibility. If they do trade Werth, however, it could just replenish whichever prospects they send to AZ. It would be a net result of zero, but not necessarily a three way deal, if that makes sense.

brigr
5 years 12 days ago

Yeah, don’t really see how they don’t trade Werth. Kinda glad it is his FA year at this point in time since he allows the phils can ultimately get a new starting pitcher without depleting the farm system.

5 years 12 days ago

I hear what you’re saying about both Haap and Kendrick, but to me it seems like his ship has sunk with the Phillies and they’re probably tired of waiting for him to be something useful. Do you think Carpenter would be much worse than Kendrick? I say give him a shot to see what he has.

JPB705
5 years 12 days ago

You’re right. KK will never be more than a serviceable AAA pitcher. I guess Carpenter couldn’t do much worse. All of their promising pitching prospects are in high A ball, so it’ll be a few years before we see them. Tough spot they’re in now that this season played out the exact opposite way from what was expected.

5 years 12 days ago

Yeah, they just fired their hitting coach for lack of offense. If they end up trading Werth for prospects, and don’t get a pitcher, then you know the Phillies are waving the white flag.

On a plus note, if the Phils do make a deal, I heard Baseball America has the Phillies Low Level Minor League players rated the highest in MLB.

Muggi
5 years 12 days ago

Yeah that BA thing was in a blog post a couple days ago…I can’t remember the exact quote, but it was something to the effect of, “no team in baseball has more talent on their A-ball teams than the Phillies.”

BajaPete
5 years 12 days ago

Yup…I heard the same thing about the Low-A prospects. I just wait until Baseball America reveals how many good young players the Phillies have stashed away in Little League and T-Ball!

5 years 12 days ago

From a Baseball America chat today:

Ben (Leland Grove): If you had to pick one team’s farm system as the most impressive overall at present, who would it be and why?

Matthew Eddy: I’m really coming around on the Royals. I liked Moustakas, Hosmer, Myers and Lamb perhaps more than most coming into the year, and they certainly have done nothing to extinguish that flame this year. The Braves and Phillies would also have to be in the discussion, but what separates the Royals is the two elite hitters at the upper levels.

Catztradamus
5 years 12 days ago

Unless they flip Werth to Tampa for Wade Davis. Then you give Happ and kendrick

5 years 12 days ago

I still don’t understand anyone saying that Singleton is blocked by Howard. The kid is only 18 years old and one of the top low-level prospects in the system. The guy that is blocked by howard is matt rizzoti who is raking this year in AA (.347 15hr 56rbi)

dirtydez
5 years 12 days ago

I hope we go for Brown but Happ/KK plus prospects would prob be enough. I heard on the radio here that AZ has big interest in Happ plus this team has been desperate for a quality young lefty for years.

5 years 12 days ago

what do you mean go for brown? lol

5 years 12 days ago

what do you mean go for brown? lol

zonis
5 years 12 days ago

To me, the Haren situation seems like the perfect fit for a 3 way trade, for example, if my Oakland Athletics got into the mix.

The Diamondbacks want Pitching back, preferably near or MLB pitching that is good and under team control for a while. Potential suitors are likely more interested in gaining said pitching rather than giving it away, and perhaps are also better at producing offense than pitching, which would be one reason necessitating Haren’s acquisition. It would make sense if a third team, for example as I said, the A’s, who have a lot of pitching but need offense, to jump into the trade and provide the pitching aspect for the Dbacks, get offensive pieces back, and allow the third team to make away with Haren.

Kitfisto007
5 years 12 days ago

Oakland does have an impressive array of ML ready pitchers like Mazarro, Outman, and Gonzalez. I would be surprised if Oakland got involved, bit it would fit.

zonis
5 years 12 days ago

I gave Oakland as an example because they are the team I follow, and thus know that they have a lot of pitching depth (and a major Offensive need), but any third team that fulfills that requirement could be used.

Can anyone else think of a team that has pitching depth that they’d like to convert to offense? After all, this is the perfect opportunity for such, since Prospect for Prospect trades are so rare (which is what made the Garza trade so surprising at the time).

The Marlins perhaps? The Giants? Mariners?

Taskmaster75
5 years 12 days ago

The Giants could probably use Werth atm, so they would be a logical choice.

nick1538
5 years 12 days ago

I remember that Beane was high on Danny Valencia and wanted him for Orlando Cabrera. Perhaps a 3-way deal with MN/Oak/AZ? Arizona gets pitching from Oakland and Minnesota, Oakland gets Valencia and some other prospects from MN and MN gets Haren. Could it work?

kevintbach
5 years 12 days ago

i think that could work. the Twinkie fans up here would like it.

zonis
5 years 12 days ago

Its possible. Its also possible that the deal with Valencia may also be expanded to include Kouzmanoff in that case, since the Twins would presumably need a 3B as well (or am I far behind on the 3B/Twins situation).

nick1538
5 years 12 days ago

No, I think you are on the right track with that idea… Maybe include someone like Ben Revere?

Something like: Valencia and Revere to Oakland, Outman and Slowey to Arizona, Kouzmanoff and Haren to Minnesota

5 years 12 days ago

We’re giving up Valencia, Revere, and Slowey for Haren and Kouzmanoff?? I think Oakland runs away with this deal.

DetroitTigersGeek
5 years 12 days ago

“Some talent evaluators believe the Tigers would have a tough time building an offer for Haren without including pitching prospect Jacob Turner.”
Duh… These guys get paid for doing this…?
Anyway, the Tigers farm system is virtually barren of “top tier” prospects. Since the D’Backs are looking for premium talent, the Tigers would have to give up premium talent (duh). Jacob Turner, being one of the few “premium talent” players in their system would be a start. If the Tigers do deal for Haren (doubtful), it would be a major coup if Turner or Porcello (not both, so… it might not get done) are NOT in the deal.
Seriously, do you think DD is going to go up to the D’Backs GM and say, “Hey, so, no Turner or Porcello, but, hey! you can have Furbush! and Villarreal! No? What do you mean you don’t want a #3 starter and a reliever? That’s some of the best talent we got after Turner and Porcello. Darn.”

RestoreTheRoar
5 years 12 days ago

One or the other..but no way DD will give up both Rick AND Jacob. They both have ace-caliber potential, and the Tigers made it clear this past off season they are looking to contend this year AND the next several…hence why they paid Cabrera and Verlander craploads of cash for several years.

Like the Redwings, Illitch builds the team to contend every year. They wont empty their pitching pockets just to score a guy for the 2nd half.

verlander
5 years 12 days ago

//They wont empty their pitching pockets just to score a guy for the 2nd half.//

Not even if that guy has two more years, plus an option?

verlander
5 years 12 days ago

I could see both Turner and Porcello leaving if they also got Drew from Arizona. But that seems unlikely.

Also, Leyland would think it’s horses**t.

gamaize
5 years 12 days ago

doubt Porcello gets moved. He is under control for less money more years than Haren. Porcello has the talent to match Haren’s success in the MLB.

I’m not opposed to trading Turner but I don’t see the Tigers being able to match what other teams can offer.

verlander
5 years 12 days ago

Guess moving Porcello depends on whether or not the Tigers think three or so years of Haren is worth more/less than five years of Porcello.

mnrunleft
5 years 12 days ago

My hope the Twins can find a 3rd team to send Wilson Ramos to and then the Twins could send out a package of something like Slowey, Ramos (too a 3rd team that sends more pitching to Arizona) and then maybe even another highly regarded prospect Ben Revere as a package to get Haren.

davidmp2
5 years 12 days ago

The Reds have a wide range of young pitchers. Volquez, Cueto, Leake, Bailey, Maloney, Klinker, LeCure, Wood, et al. With Harang and Arroyo possibly gone at the end of the year, there’s some financial room for Haren (though Votto, Bruce, Cueto, Phillips, and Volquez all do raises).

InLeylandWeTrust
5 years 12 days ago

I would really like to see the tigers make a move on haren for a few reasons. one of them being, how often will our team feature a legitamte MVP candidate (Cabrera), TWO ROY candidates (Boesch, AJAX), a closer having a more dominant year than mariano rivera (valverde), and a frontline starter in verlander? As poorly as we have played since the break we sit only 2 GB…at this point my only untouchable is rick porcello. a rotation of verlander, haren, scherzer, and porcello at the first 4 slots is pretty tempting. if the tigers managed to squeak into the postseason, their pitching would give them a real shot to advance against any team. not to mention haren is not just a rental pitcher, and his price should drop a bit due to his poor season by his standards. time to pull the trigger DD

nick1538
5 years 12 days ago

You could make the same argument for the Twins…

I would really like to see the Twins make a move on Haren for a few reasons. One of them being that our team features 2 ACTUAL MVPs (Morneau and mauer) one of which could repeat (Morneau), a breakout season from a former #1 pick (Young), a starter having a more dominant year than CC Sabathia (Liriano), and a frontline starter in Pavano? As poorly as we have played since the break we sit only 2 GB…at this point my only untouchable is Kyle Gibson. A rotation of Liriano, Haren, Pavano, and Baker at the first 4 slots is pretty tempting. If the Twins managed to squeak into the postseason, their pitching would give them a real shot to advance against any team, not to mention Haren is not just a rental pitcher. Time to pull the trigger Bill Smith!

InLeylandWeTrust
5 years 12 days ago

ok cool? too bad the twins are showing minimal interest due to them being on harens no-trade list. im saying this for the tigers because they have a real shot at getting him, obviously he makes the twins much better also, no need to reply like a jacka** about it.

nick1538
5 years 12 days ago

That was a legitimate reply actually…

The no trade list could be waived, they are showing interest.

verlander
5 years 12 days ago

Now, where is a White Sox fan to make this ‘fight’ interesting?

nick1538
5 years 12 days ago

They are looking for a bat (Dunn or Fielder) not pitching

verlander
5 years 12 days ago

Darn.

InLeylandWeTrust
5 years 12 days ago

care to back that up with a link? i saw on here that they showed minimal interest, and obviously the list can be waived, but from the blogs and tweets, it says the yanks, tigers, phillies, and cards are the main teams involved. im sure every team has some degree of interest and are inquiring on him, but do you have anything else besides pure speculation?

InLeylandWeTrust
5 years 12 days ago

haha nvm, il eat my words on that one. as soon as i refresh the page it says the twins and tigers are both interested but on his ‘list’.

nick1538
5 years 12 days ago

I think either team would have to guarantee his option year. Also, let’s be honest, this is all speculation…

verlander
5 years 12 days ago

He also indicated a willingness to waive the no trade clause for the “right situation”. What that means, who knows?

InLeylandWeTrust
5 years 12 days ago

very true. who knows what any of this stuff really means. all it does is get fans all hyped up and coming up with reasons why THEIR team is the perfect fit.

Jason Klinger
5 years 12 days ago

As a Phillies fan, I prefer Haren to Oswalt. Haren is younger and will cost you less (let’s assume Oswalt only accepts a trade to the Phillies if they pick up his option).

Haren has about $3.5 million due in the rest of 2010 and $12.75 million in 2011 and 2012 (total of $29 million)

Oswalt has about $7 million due for the rest of 2010 and $16 million in 2011 and 2010 (total of $39 million)

Jason Klinger
5 years 12 days ago

The stats, just for fun:Dan Haren 86-70 (.551 winning%) / 3.71 ERA / 1.20 WHIPTurns 30 in SeptemberRoy Oswalt 143-81 (.638 winning%) / 3.22 ERA / 1.19 WHIPTurns 33 in August

5 years 12 days ago

I dont see the Phillies giving up any of their top 5 prospects in the minors. I think a deal on the table could be…

JA Happ
Trevor May or JC Ramirez
Anthony Gose
Harold Garcia / Matt Rizzoti

thats runner up ROY and 3 top 10 prospects.

5 years 12 days ago

“The D’Backs’ asking price? High-quality major league-ready pitching.”
If I had this on my team why would I trade it for Haren?

verlander
5 years 12 days ago

//Some talent evaluators believe the Tigers would have a tough time building an offer for Haren without including pitching prospect Jacob Turner.//

No way.

ToledoFan
5 years 12 days ago

Yes way. For two reasons

1) Turner is still at LEAST 1 year away from being ready. He’s going to be very good in all likelihood but still that is one or two years down the road you HOPE Turner will turn into the level of pitcher Haren is NOW.

2) The Tigers have a bunch of money coming off the books next year. If they get Haren and after Verlander’s raise is taken care of, assuming they dont resign Bondo, Inge, Laird, Miner, Seay, Damon, that leaves around 37 Million dollars per year to work with. They can use than money to bring in at least 2 quality bats and a 3rd so so with good gloves to take care of SS, C, and 3B. The Tigers time to make a serious run is NOW. DD has a great record of finding pitching gems in the draft so you get Haren for Turner and you enjoy 2-3 years of Verlander, Haren, Scherzer, Porcello while you reload your farm with hard throwers. By that time even if you haven’t gotten good arms you can flip one of the big arms for quality pitching.

Tigers offer
Turner (1-2 years ML ready)
Galarraga (ML ready)
Weinhardt (ML ready)

verlander
5 years 12 days ago

No Oliver or Furbush?

Looks like they’d have to get him to waive his no trade clause to come to Detroit anyway. Maybe Max Scherzer could appeal to him.

InLeylandWeTrust
5 years 12 days ago

i cant see how galarraga has any trade value especially for a guy like haren. more like as verlander stated, furbish or oliver to replace him, if not both…

verlander
5 years 12 days ago

Also my comment was meant to be sarcastic.

Catztradamus
5 years 12 days ago

Phils will ship Happ or Kendrick, and the rest of the package will be built around whether they want to give up more prospects and kendrick, or less prospects and happ.

I think scott Mathieson or Drew Carpenter could be involved, too.

jmarino
5 years 12 days ago

Gut feeling that we’re going to have a lot of “drama” all the way until 3 PM on July 31st.

logicx24
5 years 12 days ago

I’m a Yankee fan speaking here, and I was just wondering why the Yankees want Haren? He does not have very good numbers this year, and Andy Pettite will be coming back soon. If we do acquire him, then we have 6 starters for 5 slots, and all of them (except maybe Burnett right now) will be deserving. The Yankees need relief pitching and an upgrade to their bench, not another starter.

Yanks28in15
5 years 12 days ago

It’s pretty simple: Yanks need a starter and to fortify the pen. Hughes is on an innings limit this year but is a lights out set-up man. Haren fills in for Andy until he returns…then Phil goes to the pen and Haren takes that spot in the rotation.

RBIBaseball
5 years 12 days ago

Umm, next year. Pettitte is most likely going to retire and Pettitte will be out for 4-5 weeks. Vazquez is not resigning. So next years rotation is CC, Burnett, Lee, Haren, and Hughes. Plus I think Haren has been trying way too hard the past few years, since the D’backs give him no run support. Which is why he pitches so many innings, he wants to win and give his team a chance. If he comes to the Yanks, he can relax, because he has an offense behind him.

Paradise17
5 years 12 days ago

As a Dbacks fan, I would love the following, I think DET and Philly are the ones who will get him:

DET- A package with Drew for Porcello, Furbush, Oliver, Weinhardt and maybe a low prospect. We have Ciraciao at SS ready, and you have a big need. AZ gets 3 guys to fill in the rotation with Parker and Enright for the future and gets a hard throwing arm in the pen.

Phily- Haren for Happ, Mathieson, Aumont, and Mayberry Jr. AZ gets a starter, 2 bullpen arms and a LF who can platoon with Parra who can bomb at Chase Field. Problem is Philly’s pitchers are not that young.

Tough one…but I dont think MIN, NYY, or STL match up with us at all. Cincy may if they have interest becuase of their young arms like Bailey, Wood, etc that could go, but I dont see that happening.

I hope

Paradise17
5 years 12 days ago

Qualls, Heilman, LaRoche, and Kelly Johnson and maybe Chris Snyder may all get dealt soon, so alot of major league ready or close to talent will be on the way. Look for AZ to get alot of arms for the pen in these trade. Position players are talented and locked in. We have Brandon Allen to take over 1B and Ciracio at SS and Abreau at 2B, Dbax need arms in the pen in the worst way.

Yanks28in15
5 years 12 days ago

So, the Phils are to give up FOUR young players AND eat 30+ MILL in salary for a pitcher with a high 4’s ERA in the NL??? LOL!!! You are GROSSLY overvaluing Haren here dude….and also the fact that ARZ wants to dump his salary.

5 years 12 days ago

Honestly the players after Happ in this deal are very average.

Yanks28in15
5 years 12 days ago

I’m not a Phils fan, but I do hear Aumont has a cannon. However, ARZ has very little leverage here and the other execs know this. This is a last place place team in sell now mode…with a pitcher having a horrible year and being owed a ton of money. They will either get a few good prospects and rid themselves of all of his financial obligation or send Haren with a Brinks truck to get a better package. Not going to get top prospects AND have the other team eat all of the money. At least, not from a smart GM. (but since we’re talking about Amaro…..??)

5 years 12 days ago

I agree with you on the people on here over valuing Haren right now for the prospects being dealt after Happ or Kendrick. A small market team freeing themselves of that money gives them a lot less leverage. If they can pull 4 players for Haren then they should be doing it. But I think the Phillies would do the deal proposed here.

Muggi
5 years 12 days ago

Aumont has ridiculous natural movement on his 94-98 sinking FB and a power 12-6 curve that’s BRUTAL, but he’s got major problems with control. It’s down the middle, or in the dugout. It’s not completely his fault…the M’s changed his arm slot to make him a power reliever, then the Phils changed him back to make him a starter again. He’s only 20 though, and it LOOKS like he’s starting to figure it out again. K’d 13 in 6ip last week, guys hitting under .200 off him.Mathieson’s a 95+ flamethrower…but he’s 25 and this is his first season back from his SECOND Tommy John. He’s dominated AAA as closer.Mayberry Jr. is a Pedro Cerano, decent defensive LF though. He’s like 26? I think.Happ is..well, you know who Happ is probably.Only Aumont would be in the Phils’ Top 10; probably in the 8-10 area.

Disqus has an issue with linking…but trust me. take two seconds and Google ” a brief look at Phillippe Aumont” It’s him facing Wright and Chipper at the WBC…the movement is frightening. You can see why he has control issues!

Paradise17
5 years 12 days ago

YOUNG? Phillies prospects are older that is why it would take all of them.

InLeylandWeTrust
5 years 12 days ago

as a tiger fan, i do not want to see us trade for drew, or any shortstop for that matter. to me that would be making a trade just for the sake of trading. in worth and santiago, we have 2 good defensive shortstops with the ability to hit for around .270 with decent speed on the basepaths. i dont see how it is necessary to give up even more prospects when we have 2 serviceable guys who can get the job done. all i want is haren.

rbeezy
5 years 12 days ago

If Dbacks insist on Porcello it won’t happen, I can see Turner & Oliver plus a couple B’s but Detroits rotation needs Porcello in it and he needs to perform. Gman and Bondo aren’t getting it done and one of them needs to go. If Porcello has another shaky start they need to look at standing pat or selling.

ToledoFan
5 years 12 days ago

Galarraga has options plus he could be a candidate along with Crosby, (Oliver, Furbush) to take over Bondermans spot in the rotation next year since It will be highly unlikly the Tigers would resign him. That being said, if the Tigers aquire Haren, don’t be surprised to see Bonderman’s name on the trade block if there is time left before the deadline.

ToledoFan
5 years 12 days ago

So Detroit would get Drew and Haren for
Porcello
Furbush
Oliver
Weinhart
and say Fien?

Throw in a low level LH prospect from Arizona system and its tempting but that is giving up 2 LH good arms. I would still like to deal Turner over Porcello simply becuase The Tigers need to win starting now. I would be harder for them to wait for Turner to come along in 2012 while they are signing players in the offseason to win next year.

rbeezy
5 years 12 days ago

It makes no sense that they include Porcello if they want to Win now. With Scherzer , Porcello , Verlander & Haren it makes them the favourite for the central. If it happens Oliver & Turner are the center peice. You don’t do this deal unless you know it will give you your best shot at the post season.

Tigerfan93
5 years 12 days ago

Switch Turner for Porcello and you have yourself a deal mister.

Tigerfan93
5 years 12 days ago

Switch Turner for Porcello and you have yourself a deal mister.

section417
5 years 12 days ago

I see the Yankees have been mentioned but with no possible trade scenarios. Possibly Mccallister, nova, melancon and adams gets the deal done?

5 years 12 days ago

I should have stressed “fairly close to mlb ready.” most likely translating to a early/mid 2012 callup, depending on that spring. obviously he’s being stretched out as a starter right now so there’s some bumps in the road and some time needed for him to learn how to be a starter. but yes if you’re talking about making him a back end of the bullpen guy, then he is much closer to being able to contribute in the bigs.

5 years 12 days ago

I look at Haren as a true 1-2 starter in the league, regardless of his below-average stats this year. Would you try to be competitive on this DBacks squad? Obviously his attitude towards this team is reflected in his stats. However, I’m not sure I like Arizona limiting themselves to a pitching only return. Why not acquire the best possible prospects and sign pitching next year. For instance, if the Twins want Haren, Aaron Hicks should be part of the deal. Hicks, a reliever and a prospect. Fair. Yankees want Haren, Montero and a similar package. Every team I’ve heard linked has a solid prospect list that would improve Arizona. Don’t tell me they wouldn’t prefer having an outfield of Upton/Young/Hicks as opposed to Parra/Gilliespe out there.

dirtydez
5 years 12 days ago

Haren getting dealt is 90% imo. Pitching in front of a terrible defense and the worst bullpen in major league history (literally) makes his decision pretty easy. Not that 10 mil isn’t enough to motivate a pitcher but i wouldn’t be surprised if he isn’t demanding a trade to an actual MLB team. He’s pitched his arse off for us eating innings and raking at the plate. He’s our best player and has been for 3 years but the breakup is inevitable.

Not looking forward to dealing an ace w/ an interim GM. Snakes want nothing to do with Boras clients (Drew) and i wouldn’t be surprised to see him moved with Haren. Tigers and Phillies seem like the most realistic fit because Haren pitching for a team playing meaningful games would elavate both sides. I like Happ/Oliver but i’m a sucker for lefties. Hall’s thought process is getting at least 1 ML ready arm to appease the fans but we know this team isn’t contending anytime soon so it’s realistic that all parts will be prospects (which i’m fine with).

Tigers keeping Porcello could be enough to throw in both Oliver/Turner/Furbush if Drew is added. Those 3 could be ready w/ Parker in 2011. Abreu could fill in at SS until Ciriaco is ready.

Tigerfan93
5 years 12 days ago

Wow! A rare, rational thought from somebody on trade speculation. I am impressed. The only thing is, even with Drew included, I see Detroit being a little reluctant to give up Jacob Turner.

InLeylandWeTrust
5 years 12 days ago

seriously? the tigers are most likely going to have to give turner if they are serious about getting haren. but haren AND drew? turner is gauranteed to be in there. as would be turner and furbish.

InLeylandWeTrust
5 years 12 days ago

oliver and furbish**

verlander
5 years 12 days ago

I think the Tigers would trade Turner for Haren.