Odds & Ends: Hamilton, Rangers, Moyer, Wilson

As Alex Rodriguez takes a step closer to the 600-homer club, here are some news items…


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5 years 1 month ago

Nooo! I really want to see a 50 year old play! Julio Franco let me down and I don’t see anyone else making it that far into their career (of course who saw those guys playing as long as they did).I suppose I’ll just have to wait until the players are replaced by biotic zombie robots.

Taskmaster75
5 years 1 month ago

Man, if the Cardinals signed Austin Wilson and Zach Cox, that alone would vault them quite a few spots up the farm system rankings. It’s not a sure thing I know, but the thought is really cool to think about.

Ferrariman
5 years 1 month ago

not to mention sanchez, matias, and miller.

moonraker45
5 years 1 month ago

zack cox is a stud and never should have dropped out of the top 10

magnushanso
5 years 1 month ago

Haugh must not be a mental colossus if he thinks Bobby Jenks and Gordon Beckham are in the same value universe.

moonraker45
5 years 1 month ago

i was thinking the exact same thing.

invader3k
5 years 1 month ago

As far as trading for Prince Fielder (assuming that’s what he was alluding to), I doubt the Brewers would have any interest in Jenks. John Axford has developed into a pretty darn good closer this season, after Hoffman faltered.

5 years 1 month ago

Fielder to Rangers for their excess pitching?

frodo253
5 years 1 month ago

Out of curiosity…could the Phillies acquire Hamilton in exchange for Werth and Dominic Brown?
thoughts…

Yankeeboy11
5 years 1 month ago

There is no way there going to let Hamilton go.

Boz
5 years 1 month ago

my dream is to see Hamilton in pinstripes. i wish this could happen!

5 years 1 month ago

ya because beckhams and jenks trade value is on the same level..

5 years 1 month ago

I think you mean 2006 for Soriano. Washington only had him for the 2006 season.

bluelineswinger
5 years 1 month ago

The article it links to also swings and misses a bit on the compensation picks.

The Nats lost both Alfonso Soriano (Type A to the Cubs) and Jose Guillen (Type B to the Mariners) to free agency. They used pick #31 (Compensation for the higher player, Soirano) on Josh Smoker. They used pick #49 (Compensation for the lower player, Guillen) on Michael Burgess. They used pick #67 (The other compensation for Soriano’s Type A Status… The Cubs’ second round pick) on Jordan Zimmermann. The tone of the article almost certainly would have been a bit different had the author been using Zimmermann (the actual compensation pick from the Cubs) as a reference point rather than Michael Burgess (who was picked higher than Zimmermann, but wasn’t the guy taken with that Type A return).

I still say Rizzo would be foolish not to accept a fair market trade for Dunn if Rizzo feels he can get one before the deadline, as the draft picks would be both risky and likely take a lot longer to develop. They have Ryan Zimmerman under contract through 2013, Stephen Strasburg under club control through 2016, and Bryce Harper under club control six years from the time he reaches the majors. They have to field a contender by the end of Zimmerman’s contract if they want to have any hope of keeping their young stars. The Nats need players who can contribute by 2012/2013 at the latest.

souldrummer
5 years 1 month ago

Amen, but I seem to be saying much of the same things you say elsewhere on the interwebs. Kushner is a knucklehead talk show personality on WJFK and really does not know baseball. FJB’s article on Soriano (http://firejimbowden.blogspot.com/2009/07/learning-all-wrong-lessons-from-soriano.html) does a much better job of stating the trade Dunn pose. I hope that Rizzo is just doing some awkward posturing in preparation for a trade or an extension with his frequent “painful” comments because the lack of a deal means that it would be more “painful” for the Nats if someone calls his bluff and they don’t sign Dunn.

5 years 1 month ago

Yes, I’m sure the Brewers/Nationals want a deal centered around Bobby Jenks for their legitimate lefty bats. I bet they’re just holding out to see if they can get Manny Corpas or Octavio Dotel first…

RedSoxDynasty
5 years 1 month ago

I’m a huge Hamilton fan! I wonder if an Ellsbury, Kelly, Dubrount, and Kalish deal for Hamiton and Salty would work?

hiheat32
5 years 1 month ago

Nope. You are not getting the best outfielder in baseball that easily. Have fun with JD Drew out there.

j6takish
5 years 1 month ago

It seems like Josh LOOOOVES playing for the Rangers, and he seems like the kind of guy who would take a massive pay cut to stick with a club he likes, especially a club who gave him a chance…and he has done nothing but make it look aquiring him was the best baseball related decision ever

HerbertAnchovy
5 years 1 month ago

You really believe that? I’d think like just about everyone else on the planet, sure you’d like to play for a team you love, but you would want to get the most money possible.

5 years 1 month ago

I think the Rangers better win the World Series and get them some cash.

Kinda like, black gold. Texas tea.

Not that good but winning is quite profitable sure enough. :)

That may be their best bet in keeping Hamilton.

BattlingRedlegs
5 years 1 month ago

Josh Hamilton will come back to cincy!!

johnsilver
5 years 1 month ago

Is this team owned by Wayne Huizenga? the guy who won a WC back in ’98 with the Fish, then proceeded to dismantle the team because he didn’t want to pay them? then, this team almost certainly won’t get past the NYY for the ALCS even, so no reason to get that far ahead, but the not wanting to pay (or flat out can’t pay in Hick’s case) comes in here.

Nice move getting Lee to maybe win the AL West, bit short sighted though when now you can’t keep your best player after the year and also lose Lee in the bargain isn’t it, plus also gave up Smoak to get Lee? brilliance abounds in Texas these days…

dopefein
5 years 1 month ago

The Marlins won in ’97, and one has to consider the length of time the Rangers have been away from the playoffs to put their moves into perspective. Yes, these are risky moves, but just making the playoffs can rev-up baseball in a place like Arlington.

johnsilver
5 years 1 month ago

Think about that price paid for a potential even playoff spot. traded future slugger in Smoak. Might have to trade best power hitter on the team also and have -0- chance of resigning Lee anyway. Even if can win the division, would seem pretty plain that with the holes created from losing the biggest offensive force can count on next year (with Vlad’s injury history and FA) plus Smoak will probably develop into a productive bat in Seattle.. This just seems like a lose-lose situation, even if they do win the AL West long term.

Hamilton is a FORCE on this (or any) team and his loss would be almost impossible to make up.

hiheat32
5 years 1 month ago

double post

hiheat32
5 years 1 month ago

Considering the Rangers only gave up Smoak and none of their top pitching prospects (see Holland, Scheppers, Perez, etc.) and the fact that they get not one, but two compensation first round picks if Lee signs elsewhere, I’d say the Rangers didn’t lose too much in the Lee trade. And Nolan said that about Hamilton to convince the judge to not delay the auction. The Rangers will be sold on Aug. 4th and whoever the new owner is (Mark Cuban or Greenberg most likely) will have enough money to offer Hamilton arbitration and maybe sign a free agent or two in the offseason. Hamilton is not going anywhere.

super_saxy
5 years 1 month ago

Its a shame about Jamie Moyer. He has been better from ages 40 – 47 than most pitchers are their whole careers.

I really hope it isn’t the end for him. I know its a long shot (he’s 33 away), but I would LOVE to see someone like him get to 300 wins. We may not ever see that again…

withpower
5 years 1 month ago

Eh.. Hamilton is a guy who is going into free agency and arbitration a bit late for a high level hitter. I don’t see any discounts, not massive ones anyway.

Besides.. the last year when he was injured, didn’t he have issues with photos showing up of him at a bar drinking and such? Maybe it’s me, but I’d imagine it’s probably better for someone who had a pretty serious crack/heroin/whatever habit to not drink. And I sure wouldn’t trust that person to drink responsibly when they did drink.

It was probably a one time slip up, since he’s back to absolutely mashing the ball this year.. I’m just saying. I don’t think you could fault either side if a big contract doesn’t get worked out.

dopefein
5 years 1 month ago

Talk of Hamilton taking a discount to stay in Texas is simply misguided. He took a loooonnggg time to make it to the majors, what with his ‘ol crack habit and all, and this is his one shot at financial stablity for his family for the rest of their lives. Hamiliton is going to get as much money as he can when the time comes, and frankly, he is one of the few guys in the Majors I would love to see take a team to the bank — score one for all the down-on-their-luck second-chancers in the world.

What is probably smarting all Cubs fans out there is that they picked up Hamilton in the Rule 5 and GAVE HIM AWAY to Cincy, because they had no space for him in their outfield. Now, that alone should get Jim Hendry fired!

5 years 1 month ago

dopefein, ur an idot

moonraker45
5 years 1 month ago

its funny because the same guy who mentions why he has played himself to be expendable is the one who thinks he could be used to acquire anything useful.

SaveMeJebus
5 years 1 month ago

If the Brewers wanted Jenks for Fielder, Prince would be in the starting lineup for the White Sox tonight.