Manny Ramirez Likes Farrell, Blue Jays

Manny Ramirez would like to play for the Blue Jays under new manager John Farrell, the slugger told ESPN's Enrique Rojas (story in Spanish).  Ramirez and Farrell crossed paths on the Red Sox, of course.  Manny added that he had hernia surgery two weeks ago and was never 100% during the season.  He feels like he has a lot of baseball left and can stay healthy as a designated hitter.

Ramirez, 38, hit .298/.409/.460 in 320 plate appearances for the Dodgers and White Sox this year.  That's a down year by his standards, but it's also the best OBP of any free agent.  Manny said he's liked the Blue Jays since they had great Dominican players in the 80s.  To make room for Ramirez at DH, the Jays would have to use Adam Lind at first base.


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pastlives
4 years 10 months ago

oh man i’d love to see this

4 years 10 months ago

The circus coming to Toronto?

4 years 10 months ago

Sign at your own risk

4 years 10 months ago

Can someone post Manny’s stats at Rogers Centre? I’m pretty sure they are crazy good. Nevertheless, Manny is pretty much done. But isn’t it weird that he basically came out and picked Toronto specifically?

– Edit: Take back what I said.. didn’t realize he put up those numbers in 2010.

pastlives
4 years 10 months ago

I find that toronto fans love to pretend that they’re scouts…you don’t think it’s a little presumptuous to write him off as ‘done’ after the triple slash he put up last year? what are you going off, a 69 AB ‘slump’ with the white sox that he played through hurt, and still managed a .420 OBP?

TheBunk
4 years 10 months ago

Agreed, would love Manny on a one year deal.

TheodoreRoosevelt
4 years 10 months ago

Me too.

Too many armchair GMs who won’t be satisfied until the Jays are fielding a team full of 18 year old prospects, with 15 year olds at AAA. The team can never be too young!

Watching Manny would be a lot of fun, he’d undoubtedly be a productive hitter, and he’d put the “hope” in the “faint hope” of a shot at the playoffs.

moonraker45
4 years 10 months ago

toronto fans, or all fans?

4 years 10 months ago

no, he’s stated publicly that he was a Jays fan growing up because of Tony Fernandez, and they were one of the first teams to come up when Boston wanted trade him. I’m not surprised in the least bit.

Encarnacion's Parrot
4 years 10 months ago

.291/.379/.561/.940 with 27HR in 96 games in the Rogers Center/SkyDome. Not bad.

boxcar8
4 years 10 months ago

That’s ok I GUESS…

$1529282
4 years 10 months ago

I wonder how many 38-year-olds wish they’d posted an .869 OPS and a .382 wOBA in their final seasons and they were “done…”

pastlives
4 years 10 months ago

this could be a decent lineup-

2b – hudson
ss – escobar
dh – manny
rf – bautista
cf – wells
1b – lind
3b-hill
lf- snider
c- arencibia

molina/johnny mac/fred lewis/________ on the bench

4 years 10 months ago

Hudson?

4 years 10 months ago

I don’t see any reason why they’d move Hill over to 3B just yet, barring some major roster shakeup.

pastlives
4 years 10 months ago

meh just throwing a quick, kinda lazy thought, I’d imagine AA would explore every trade possibility before signing hudson and moving hill to 3rd..hed probably consider calling up Emaus before he signed Hudson, too.

4 years 10 months ago

Brad Emaus at 3B does not make the Jays a contender in teh AL EAST..

moonraker45
4 years 10 months ago

if he plays good defense and gets on base he’d be a fine 9 hitter.

4 years 10 months ago

That lineup isn’t all that better than this year’s version. I think it’s pretty obvious that Lind isn’t a full-time player (look at his lefties splits this year) or at the very least – a full-time first baseman. His defense there is atricious and Cito/Jays didn’t give him a chance to see if he could settle there.

4 years 10 months ago

haha funny how quickly ppl forget… lind not an everyday player, yea OK.

at 27 you can learn to hit lefties. he even stated himself that poor preparation in the offseason was partly to blame for his terrible year, he said he got complacent. lind is still the best all round hitter on this team, dont let one bad year cloud your assessment.

4 years 10 months ago

Travis Snider will be the best all round hitter on this team but okay. Again, you can’t take away how bad his splits were this year against lefties. They were HORRENDOUS.

4 years 10 months ago

not at all, he was brutal. but lind is the least of this teams worries at the present, and the good news is that his contract is very reasonable even if he fails to regain his form of last year. i do not doubt that he will post similar numbers to 2009 in the years to come.

personally i see travis snider as a jose bautista type (haha never thought i’d say that), but you could very well be right. i just see his swing being more conducive to power and lind’s more to average.

moonraker45
4 years 10 months ago

As good as I think Snider will be, I’d still have to go with Lind as the best all around hitter on this team. 2010 was a bad year, but he can still hit to all fields with power. Both will hopefully have good years next year and we will see.

$1529282
4 years 10 months ago

I don’t see the logic between moving Hill to 3B to facilitate an Orlando Hudson signing. It’s not like he’s an elite source of speed or OBP on top of the lineup. He had a nice all-around year, and I loved him with the Twins, but he’s not necessarily a game-changing player. You’d be better off leaving Bautista at 3B, putting Snider at one corner and signing/trading for a leadoff type to play the other corner.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

I think pastlives is a Dodger fan and wants O-Dog and Manny reunited.

Seriously though, I dont think Manny, a veteran with no speed, defense (even a DH), and his atitude is good for the Jays.

4 years 10 months ago

Yeah man.. that .400 OBP would suck for the Jays.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 10 months ago

You can’t be for certain that he will provide a .400 OBP, but I would love to see is get Manny!

PJaysW
4 years 10 months ago

like buying low on BJ upton for example.

Upton- CF
Escobar- SS
Ramirez- DH
Bautista- 3B
Wells- LF
Lind- 1B
Snider- RF
Hill- 2B
Arencibia- C

moonraker45
4 years 10 months ago

wells in left field. Snider in Right? ummm okay.

4 years 10 months ago

Haha, as if Upton wouldn’t go to a corner.

Encarnacion's Parrot
4 years 10 months ago

You can start off with taking out Lewis and putting Wise in there. FLewis already stated he won’t be a bench player, Wise would cost less and was much more effective defensively.

Manny would hit behind Bautista to give him better protection and I’m not sure why the Jays would get an aging 2B man.

4 years 10 months ago

Because Orlando Hudson played for the Jays and was awesome!! Uhh is there any other reason needed?

Encarnacion's Parrot
4 years 10 months ago

Nope. ‘Lando was amazing for the Jays, why didn’t I think of that?

PJaysW
4 years 10 months ago

but manny would be on base more for JoBau to drive in

Encarnacion's Parrot
4 years 10 months ago

Never thought of it that way. I guess it works both ways. As long as the Jays have a feared hitter in the 4th hole and have Wells batting 5th, that’s a solid 3-4-5 combo.

Jays still need much more speed to manufacture runs more ways that don’t almost always result in an out [SB > bunt sac]

Sniderlover
4 years 10 months ago

Jesus no.

Manny is opposite of what this team stands for and I like to keep the fact that our team is about hustle and heart and we have a great club house and I’d like to keep it that way.

He should go sign with a contender or something.

4 years 10 months ago

Are you kidding me? AA should go sign David Eckstein and retrade for Alex Gonzalez because this team needs to be full of GRIT and INTANGIBLES and WINNING ATTITUDES. All I care about and all you should care about is – can he produce?

Sniderlover
4 years 10 months ago

You’re overlooking the importance of having a winning attitude.

And as for can Manny produce… well he is 38 years old. How much production will you get out of him? 25hr/80 RBI at best maybe? That’s good but he would also be clogging up the DH spot and while I would like to give Lind some time at 1B, I would not hand him full-time starting job at 1st base.

boxcar8
4 years 10 months ago

Rofl, how did Barry Bonds do at 38? Ramirez is one of the best hitters to ever play, downplaying him, especially after a decent year where he was injured, is ridiculous.

Sniderlover
4 years 10 months ago

Did you read what else I said? I said he may produce 25hr/80 RBI at best. What, you think he can still go out and hit 40 homeruns?Go ahead, realistically, tell me what he can produce and if he can still get 30hr/100 RBI then I guess a few teams will be interested in him, eh?

$1529282
4 years 10 months ago

Because the amount of runs Manny drives in are entirely within his control?

boxcar8
4 years 10 months ago

.400 OBP, .900 OPS, the only stats that matter.

4 years 10 months ago

Well Manny has a WS ring to his name so obviously his attitude isn’t too much of a concern…

$1529282
4 years 10 months ago

He didn’t want to win that World Series. He was trying to lose, because that’s what he does. Manny likes losing. He also hates puppies, the elderly, sunshine, smiles, laughter, kindness, the Beatles’ White album, babies, Coca-Cola Classic, and Snooki.

4 years 10 months ago

I’ve heard he even hates Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band.

(but don’t tell anybody, they’ll start thinking he’s gritty and heartless)

4 years 10 months ago

He hates Snooki?

Shame on him.

4 years 10 months ago

nice point, intangibles are important, but talent still rules. intangibles are something brian burke drones on about with the leafs, ignoring the fact that they do not hav the requisite talent to win a cup or even make the playoffs

PJaysW
4 years 10 months ago

Yea, nothing like taking the team’s late season media blitz of ‘hustle and heart’ as its defining characteristics

4 years 10 months ago

nooooooooo…keep that lazy half wit away from the Jays…

Keith Y
4 years 10 months ago

this would be pretty good
we get a dh who is pretty motivated to not go out into retirement as seen in the messy Dodgers breakup, he would hit around 25 hrs im guessing?
still having him as a dh solves our position crisis, we could put lind at 1st.
he probably wont be that expensive either

4 years 10 months ago

Why why why do people keep posting that Lind could play 1B. Look how many games he played there in 2010 and look at his defense. *Shudders. Even the Jays org. doesn’t think he’s a full-time 1B.

Keith Y
4 years 10 months ago

you haven’t heard anything from the jays, they just said that they would explore all possibilities, i agree that he has looked awkward at first, but if he can work on his defense at 1st over the winter and in spring training, he probably wont be much worse on defense than the supposed first baseman of the future Brett Wallace, who was also noted as a below-average fielder, and jays fans were all ready to jump on the Wallace bandwagon

moonraker45
4 years 10 months ago

If we survived with delgado at 1b, the jays will survive with lind at 1b..aslong as he hits.. i wouldnt say his defense is..shutters… i’d say pessimistically average

FriedCalamari
4 years 10 months ago

was delgado really that bad? I remember a lot of times when I was younger delgado making a lot of diving plays that looked like it could be doubles but getting them, and Overbay diving and missing… but it could be the range. Maybe overbay wouldn’t have even had to dive for the balls..

The_Porcupine
4 years 10 months ago

Avoid this chump like the plague. Let him go out to pasture with another team. The Jays have a good young team. Don’t bring in a lazy, selfish, clubhouse poison in and mess with the young nucleus.

4 years 10 months ago

.940 OPS in 94 games. I’d have guessed even better, actually.

Of course, that’s not 39-year-old Manny.

rockfordone
4 years 10 months ago

If the Blue Jays need a DH take Andruw Jones. Not Manny he’s just a head case. He’ll probably want only 15m – Jones can be had for 1M and play the outfield

4 years 10 months ago

If Manny is specifically asking to play for Toronto, I doubt he’ll ask for 15M. And the whole head case part is so overblown… Can HE PRODUCE?

deere5800
4 years 10 months ago

Why is it that just about every professional athlete will talk about chemistry, getting along with your teammates and stuff like that, but us outsiders seem to think that has no influence.
A ball team is together everyday for six months – more if they go deep in the postseason. It’s crazy to think that a guy with a bad attitude won’t negatively affect the rest of the team.
I’ve played on and been around a lot of sports teams, and one bad attitude can have a really bad effect. I can’t imagine big league teams are terribly different…they’re still human after all

TheBunk
4 years 10 months ago

The best part is that he wants to be DH so no negative fielding taking away from his value, would love him on the Jays for something like 5M with a club option.

4 years 10 months ago

The clubhouse poison that set the NL on fire or the clubhouse poison that was one of the top 5 offensive players in the AL for the better part of the past decade?

ukJaysfan
4 years 10 months ago

I’m really torn on this thought. Manny raked at Rogers Centre in his prime and if he still has the juice (pardon the pun), he’s the type of player who can put a team over the top. But, his clubhouse presence has been widely reported as distracting. He might be the type of guy that would thrive playing in Canada with a smaller (read: easier) media scrum to deal with.

Personally, I think I’d take a miss on this opportunity. A) The contract (going by his history) would be a little high. B) I still have bad memories of the one-dimensional DH type clogging up the bases ala Frank Thomas. Yes Adam Lind is no 5 tool threat and runs like a little girl being chased by a hungry bear, but he can play a passable outfield and will be improved at first given the chance. C) Is he only interested in Toronto because of Farrell? That just doesn’t seem like the kind of player I’d want around.

briantalletsmoustache
4 years 10 months ago

“clogging up the bases”? Yeah, I also hate it when my team has guys on base.

ukJaysfan
4 years 10 months ago

Anybody but Frank Thomas on base = good. Otherwise, not so much. He would only go first to third on a double 😉

shockey12
4 years 10 months ago

I would imagine that it would be likely that you could get a draft pick after the year is over providing he has a good year and you have to take that into account also

4 years 10 months ago

This is not the first time he has said this. He openly talked about wanting to sign with Toronto when he was a FA in 2008. There was also rumor when he was with Boston that he told a fan in the dome to “tell JP to get it done” or something like that.

4 years 10 months ago

It probably even goes further back than that considering the Blue Jays were once regarded as the favourite team among Dominicans. If we search, we can probably find a quote from him about Toronto and George Bell.

4 years 10 months ago

Yea, he has mentioned exactly that–about the Jays being a favorite team down there–at least once before

4 years 10 months ago

Hullo, Cito Gaston’s moronic decisions to not play Lind at first (where he was completely passable defensively) do not necessarily reflect the organization’s feelings about the idea.

4 years 10 months ago

Absolutely true. But man, the defensive drop from Lyle Overbay to Adam Lind is just absurd. Then again, as long as E5 is non-tendered I’m okay with it.

ukJaysfan
4 years 10 months ago

Lind is 27, I hate the idea that he’s a full time DH at that age. Carlos Delgado was a 3rd base prospect, then a catcher, and maybe OF too (can’t remember) before he learned 1st base. And Delgado got very good defensively the more he played. Lind will not get any better sitting on the bench for 96% of all the games.

Sniderlover
4 years 10 months ago

I still don’t think you should hand him over the full time starting role but yeah, let him get some work in to see if he can play good enough at 1st base. If Fielder can do it, Lind should be able to and so far, he hasn’t been that bad, nothing great but he’s been passable so far.

moonraker45
4 years 10 months ago

Overbay’s defense this year was TERRIBLE.

TheBunk
4 years 10 months ago

And even if he’s no good at first, it sure as heck would have been nice to see him get more than a 7 or 8 game trial. We wouldn’t have to go into 2011 being unsure if he can handle the job.

Encarnacion's Parrot
4 years 10 months ago

The thing with Lind’s 1B defense too is it wasn’t as horrifying as some people are making it out to be. It’s only been very brief, but he did post a 20.4 UZR/150 in 2010.

I won’t say he’s instantly an above average defensive 1B, but early signs are he can at least handle the position.

4 years 10 months ago

Manny the singles hitter heading north!

John Meloche
4 years 10 months ago

1 year contract for 7 million as a DH… Why not? I know people like to bash on Thomas but maybe they forget he was very productive in 2007… Manny could do well hitting in Toronto and if he actually wants to be here, why not give him a 7 million dollar contact for 1 year… We will be paying Vernon like 23 million next year so whats 7 million?

ukJaysfan
4 years 10 months ago

Thomas was productive yes…but it took until June to see any real hits. By that point the season was an afterthought. His OBP was okay with all of his walks, but big Frank was effectively a roadblock on the basepaths.

4 years 10 months ago

A .380 OBP was okay? By Blue Jays standards that’s INCREDIBLE.

ukJaysfan
4 years 10 months ago

True enough!

4 years 10 months ago

I can see the signs already: Mannywood North.

4 years 10 months ago

Great, can’t wait to see A.J. Burnett swear on the mound like 20 times while Manny stares at him rounding the bases on a John McDonald GS.

BlueJaysAD
4 years 10 months ago

Does Manny’s health problems and age make it unlikely that the Sox will roll the dice on offering him arbitration in the offseason? If so, I’d have no problem giving him a one year deal and seeing what he can do in a home run happy ball park. If he’s likely to be a type-A free agent, no chance. There’s no value in sacrificing a first round draft pick on a one year contract to an aging slugger who may very well fall out of type-A status this year.

4 years 10 months ago

Pretty sure he is going to be Type A. Don’t see the White Sox offering arb.

BlueJaysAD
4 years 10 months ago

My mistake, I meant to say he may very well fall from type-A status next year if his stats continue to decline.

ukJaysfan
4 years 10 months ago

Good point – a quick check of the reverse engineered Elias rankings show him to be a borderline type A.

Keith Y
4 years 10 months ago

he will surely not get arbitration

4 years 10 months ago

No way he’s offered arbitration coming off of the salary he was paid in 2010. 1 year for > $20M is better than he’ll get on the FA market, and I doubt the White Sox really want to pay him that much.

4 years 10 months ago

indeed.

famous_amazing_guy
4 years 10 months ago

if i remember correctly there is a clause in the contract that manny originally signed with the dodgers that said that the team could not offer him arbitration. i recall thinking it was quite clever by Boras to keep the dollars extra high for manny’s next contract.

Potrzeba
4 years 10 months ago

just look at what manny would do for the blue jays. He’d losen up the clubhouse, tutor snider and other young players. Plus a 1yr-7-8mm deal is harmless. With a whole year of manny as a DH I bet he still has .290BA (if not higher) 20-25HRS, 80-100RBI’s left. He would be a great pickup.

PJaysW
4 years 10 months ago

IF (and its a big IF) Manny could serve as an effective mentor for Snider, as they are both left handed (edit: in my fantasy dreamworld), drive-the-ball-to-all-fields and hit for power guys, he’d be worth 8 mil with a one year 8 mil team option.edit: stupid, stupid stupid. my bad.

Sniderlover
4 years 10 months ago

Manny is left-handed? Since when?

And has Manny ever tried to be a mentor to anyone before? Would be great if he can mentor Snider though.

fitz
4 years 10 months ago

Really dude? Really?

4 years 10 months ago

Best joke post ever.

Just_MLB
4 years 10 months ago

No !Manny Ramirez was the greatest Red Sox Right handed hitter since Ted Williams ( this post has so much potential )

YanksFanSince78
4 years 10 months ago

ummmm….wasn’t he?

Just_MLB
4 years 10 months ago

of course !

LOL

thats why he hit so many opposite field shots off the green monster !

jaysfansince93
4 years 10 months ago

manny is right handed

4 years 10 months ago

If it is about mentoring Snider, they should pay a bunch of extra money to try and convince Thome to come and mentor Snider. (though big Jim wants to be on a contender)

4 years 10 months ago

Not to mention absolutely AMAZING protection for Bautista, which would more than certainly help him to try and continue his power surge.