Yankees Notes: Jeter, Rivera, Lee, Bullpen

The Yankees may be done for 2010, but general manager Brian Cashman's not taking much of a break to relax. ESPN New York's Andrew Marchand writes that Cashman will meet with co-owners Hal and Hank Steinbrenner on Monday to discuss their plan of attack for 2011, and there will be plenty on the agenda:

  • The Yankees need to figure out what to offer Derek Jeter. According to Marchand, Cashman doesn't place any monetary value on Jeter's approaching milestones (such as 3,000 hits) and he's interested only in paying players for what they're worth in the win column.
  • The same issue presents itself with Mariano Rivera. Marchand feels that Rivera will top his 2010 salary of $15MM, but is uncertain as to how many years Mo will ask for and how many the Yankees are looking to offer. That's a lot to risk on someone who's over 40, but it's hard to argue with Marchand when he says Rivera "seems ageless."
  • There will also be discussions about what the club is willing to spend on Cliff Lee to pair him with C.C. Sabathia atop their rotation. Lee will be 33 next August, and is undoubtedly going to receive a mammoth contract this offseason. Marchand calls Lee the Yanks' #1 priority, but cautions against too lengthy of a deal. He speculates that as many as eight teams could be in the bidding for Lee.
  • Given the news of Damaso Marte's injury that will keep him out beyond the 2011 All-Star game, the group will also prioritize a list of left-handers to pair with Boone Logan in the bullpen for next season.


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  1. dizzle4 5 years ago

    It will never happen, but how awesome would be if the Yankees just let Jeter walk?

    • AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs 5 years ago

      Why would that be awesome for you? People say they will love when the core four retire because they think it will somehow hurt the Yankees, but in reality those same people will end up missing those core four because of how great they were.

    • And who do you propose we put in SS? Nunez couldn’t even beat Ramiro Pena for the playoff spot. Jeter might not be the Jeter of yesteryear, but he’s certainly not a bad shortstop, especially given that SS is a traditionally light-hitting position anyway.

      • Slopeboy 5 years ago

        Nunez didn’t beat out Pena, because the Yankees always go with experience in the Playoffs. When Nick Johnson did not return in time, they went out and got Berkman, instead of using Juan Miranda who could could have done the same job as Berkman.
        You, much like most fans want a proven commodity to replace Jeter, because he’s a ‘star’. Forgetting that all ‘stars’ at one time or another were once no name rookies too. Jeter will not play SS for the Yankees for the rest of his life,so its time for fans to get used to that, and let Nunez show what he can do.

        • agree even the Yankees understand how the service time game works.

        • crashcameron 5 years ago

          except Jeter has never been “non name”!

          • Slopeboy 5 years ago

            Jeter got the Yankees job in ’96 only because the incumbant SS, Tony Fernandez suffered a broken arm late in spring training of that year. Few outside the Yankees organiztion knew who Jeter was then,and I suspect including you.

      • Shortstop is a defensive position, and Jeter has declined immensely defensively, so yes, Jeter is a bad shortstop. He should be the DH.

        • ellisburks 5 years ago

          It’s not that he has declined immensely, he was just never that great a SS. He has always had range problems and he has only had 3 positive UZR in his 16-year career. As for him being a DH I would that that would be a waste. Unless he gets back to having a OPS over .850 he is useless as a DH.

          • I can’t think of any reasonable reason to re-sign him, but I think the Yankees will regardless. Jeter will be a liability at shortstop, and will continue to be going forward. He could move to 3B, but then what about Rodriguez, DH, shortstop? The Yankees just seem to be old.

    • moonraker45 5 years ago

      i love how people attack you for a pretty obvious joke.

      It would be awesome if they let him walk, and if he signed with some random small market team.

  2. So there is no value to Jeter’s milestones, yet NY will give Arod a $30M marketing agreement based on home run milestones ($6M each for reaching 660, 714, 755 and tying and breaking major league HR record)

    ????????

    • They may feel burned by the A-Rod contract and not want to dip into that territory again.

    • YanksFanSince78 5 years ago

      Jeter isn’t going anywhere but for the record Cashman wasn’t the one that wanted to work out the new deal with Arod.

    • start_wearing_purple 5 years ago

      The difference is Jeter won’t be breaking Rose’s record whereas ARod will likely break Aaron’s and Bonds.

    • jasonallen_02 5 years ago

      It is Cashman that claims he doesn’t put a value in career milestones. It was Steinbrenner who negotiated A-Rods last contract which gave him all these bonuses.

  3. Jeter will not get hit #3,ooo in another uniform……

  4. YanksFanSince78 5 years ago

    I seriously don’t get the Mo contract issue. He didn’t have a BETTER year than he did in 2007-2010. He is ALREADY the highest paid closer by a wide margin. Secondly, I can’t see Mo asking for more money and I can’t see him asking for more than 2 years. My guess is he signs for 2/$30. Jeter however, needs to take a pay cut.

    • TapDancingTeddy 5 years ago

      Sounds reasonable. But let’s see what happens when the talking begins.

      Personally, although it’s above market value, I wouldn’t mind offering Jeter 3/45. As for Mo there’s nothing to say about his market value, there’s still on one better. At age 41, though, maybe he’d accept a one year at 15. Taking into account the financial crisis that’s a raise.

  5. Ahhh the Yankees. 9 players already add up to $145m for 2011 and that doesn’t include Jeter, Rivera or Pettitte (or Lee if they sign him). Can’t wait to see the first ever $300m payroll….

    • start_wearing_purple 5 years ago

      Won’t be any time soon.

    • AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs 5 years ago

      It will be going down within the next 5 years. If you haven’t noticed, they replace payroll with payroll, they hardly add to it, as is the case with subtracting Giambi, Mussina, etc and adding CC, AJ and Tex. Posada’s contract will be off the books next year, then likely Rivera’s in a year or 2, as will Pettittes. I would be surprised to see them going down to 150-170.

    • YanksFanSince78 5 years ago

      Why do ppl act as if all of these contracts are compounding into perpetuity? The payroll is fluid.

      2010-Johnson, Vazquez off
      2011-Posada, Marte, Igawa off
      Somewhere on there Pettitte comes off. 2013 AJ is done. Swisher, Grandy are done in 2-3 years. Arod, CC and Tex are the only ones that are locked in for 5 years or more.

    • MB923 5 years ago

      The Yankees payroll has been around $195-$210 mark for the past 6 years, it has barely gone up and down2005- $208 million2006- $194 million2007- $206 million2008- $209 million2009- $209 million2010- $206 millionTheir payroll 5 years ago is teh same (techinically $2 million more) than it was this year

    • yanks2011 5 years ago

      Technically you have Jeters 21mil, Riveras’ 15mil, Pettitte 12mil, Vasquez 12mil and Nick Johnsons 6mil coming off the books. That’s 66mil coming off the books. The payroll before the signings start will be at about 153mil. After the 2008 season over 80mil came off the books. Even with the signings of Texiera, Burnett and Sabathia the Yankee payroll went down from 209 to 201mil. I also added onto the payroll raises of Cano 1mil, Swisher 2mil and Granderson 3mil.

  6. start_wearing_purple 5 years ago

    Cashman knows Jeter’s worth far more to the yanks than to any other team. If Jeter is worth $6M a year on the open market then he’s worth at least $12M a year to the yanks. He’ll agree to Jeter’s price.

    • YanksFanSince78 5 years ago

      I doubt Cashman will fight w/ Jeter but I hope Jeter is reasonable as well. He shouldn’t get any more than $18 mil. Even at $18 that’s double what he could get on the open market.

      • start_wearing_purple 5 years ago

        Despite my assertions that Jeter will get whatever he wants from the yanks, I do feel strongly he won’t test the question. Jeter has always been of the attitude that the game and the team matter more than himself. My bet is the negotiations will be Cashman asking Jeter his price, Jeter stating a price that’s inflated for the open market but reasonable for the yanks, and Cashman will write a check. Simple.

        • 0bsessions 5 years ago

          “Jeter has always been of the attitude that the game and the team matter more than himself.”

          I’ve said it here dozens of times before, but if that were at all true then Jeter would’ve moved off of short for A-Rod when he was brought in.

    • MB923 5 years ago

      Red Sox have done the same with their players and will do the same with Ortiz this year

      Not as much spending as the Yankees will, but the Red Sox will agree to pay what they ask for.

      • start_wearing_purple 5 years ago

        Ortiz and Jeter are completely different animals. So are Jeter and Varitek. Jeter has been been the face of the the most prominent franchise in baseball for years.

        • MB923 5 years ago

          The amount of money that they ask for will be different, and although Jeter’s been there longer, what Ortiz and Varitek have meant for the Red Sox is just as big. And I think only the Red Sox would give them what they ask for. Same for Yankees with JEter and Rivera

          • 0bsessions 5 years ago

            Not so sure about that. When Varitek’s numbers dropped into the toilet, they relegated him to a backup role as soon as they were able to. Beyond that, last time his contract was up, they made it pretty clear they would let him walk when they waited until late in the offseason to re-up him at a fraction of his previous deal.

  7. YanksFanSince78 5 years ago

    I wonder if the Yanks can circumvent the whole Jeter payroll issue by offering him a lifetime service type deal? Let’s say they offer him 3/$45 mil plus another $30 mil paid off in 10 increments of $3 mil to be an assistant to the President, etc. You see guys like Nolan Ryan, Tino Martinez and Reggie Jackson w/ those sorts of positions. Is that possible?

    • I’d be more comfortable with Jeter getting a deal to play out his last few years and then a second deal that puts him in the rest of the organization. Jeter’s already said he wants to work within the Yankee Organization after he retires, and I think it’s absurd the Steinbrenners/Cash/etc wouldn’t welcome him into it in some sense.

    • You mean deferred payments?

    • moonraker45 5 years ago

      isn’t his dream to own a team? chances are he will never own the yankees so that deal might not be appealing to him

  8. slider32 5 years ago

    Mo and Jeter will get their money as they should. I would rather have the players making the money, instead of the owner. Ticket prices are not going down. Their are many owners who are werth more than the Yanks owner, but they don’t want to win. Minny could have kept Santana,and Seattle could have kept Johnson , A-Rod ,and Griffey to name a few. If their is no cap, then I have no problem with them playing within the rules.

  9. Pat_M 5 years ago

    One approach I would definitely try to negotiate with Jeter is to use Cliff Lee and other additions as leverage. Tom Brady renegotiated his contract to get Randy Moss involved, and the Yankees could pitch Cliff Lee in much the same light with Jeter. I’d imagine winning a couple more rings – and having the players around him to make it happen – would mean more to Jeter than his salary.

    • slider32 5 years ago

      The Pats have a cap and the Yanks don’t. Jeter will be signed he is worth more to the Yanks they will give him 4yrs – 75 mill. Jeter knows the Yanks always go after the best available talent.

  10. how long do you guys see mo staying around? another year or two?

    • Stl_Great 5 years ago

      The year he breaks Trevor Hoffman’s save record i think.

    • start_wearing_purple 5 years ago

      Probably when he feels he’s ineffective… so 2022?

  11. Alright just resign Jeter and Mo so at the end of the deal they retire. That way the Yankees can start thinking about the future more, and worrying about who is gonna fill that position. Before that I would advise to let Pettitte know that he can call them whenever he wants with his decision. Then I would look at possible candidates for the pitching coach position, and narrow them down and hire someone(Curt Young, Dave Righetti, Rick Kranitz are possiblities). Meanwhile if they reall want Lee(ugh…)then offer him 5 years and the same money CC earns yearly with an option. That’s the highest they should go, and if Texas offers more then just let them have their future albatross and look at other pitchers who are on the market not named Grienke. Then fill any remaining holes in the BP, and bench.

  12. n0s 5 years ago

    Montero (and some other prospects) for Matt Cain. Who hangs up first? Giants have Lincy, Sanchez, and Bumgarner already in the bigs as the future of their rotation. They have Barry Zito who is good enough to be a #4 starter. And then they still have Zack Wheeler in the minors. Montero can get out from behind the plate and play first as the Giants know Aubrey Huff isn’t going to be there much longer. A 3-4 of Posey-Montero cold be deadly in the future.

    • Pipe dream

    • How’s about not trading Montero

      • moonraker45 5 years ago

        honestly, like whats with yankee fans ?

        The last decade has been succesful because of the uprising of home grown, yet you have this highly touted prospect and almost every yankee fan talks more about what they can flip him for rather then when he will make his major league debut.

        its baffling.

    • Who hangs up first? The Giants. Cain is an ace, Montero is a wannabe.

  13. Mick_Stepp 5 years ago

    The Yankees are going to wind up with 9 D.H.’s.

  14. InvalidUserID 5 years ago

    Before the season started, I was saying I wanted Crawford. However, after seeing Gardner this year, I’m not convinced that the money would be better used in other areas of need (pitching). Besides that, I swear I read somewhere that Crawford doesn’t want to leadoff anymore/much longer.

    As for Jeter, it is much like Girardi: they both want each other. As long as there is mutual respect, as I anticipate there will be, there shouldn’t be any big hitches. Same goes for Mo…his situation is easier IMO. I’d say $15M/year for each of them is fair.

  15. pt_nj 5 years ago

    The comment about Jeters’ approaching milestones having no monetary value is totally transparent and the Yankees should be embarrassed that Cashman said it. Just a few years ago they offered A-Rod millions for his milestones and he hadn’t yet put one championship banner in the rafters. Jeter, who has been the face of the Yankees, deserves better than this insincere posturing by the GM. Shame on you…

  16. burritolikethesun 5 years ago

    Jeter has no chance to survive he should make his time. SOMEONE SET JETER UP THE BOMB

  17. Slopeboy 5 years ago

    … In related news today… Mariano Rivera has negotiated a new deal that will have him pitching until he reaches the age of his uniform number, whereby Phil Hughes quickly offered to change uniforms with him.

    • I think that’s sarcasm but, I would be upset if this were true. Mo is gonna be the last ever to wear #42, it’s an honor to wear that number and I would never give that up.

      • Slopeboy 5 years ago

        Henry, all the fighting you done against the legions of Yankees haters, lately has really made you just a tad paranoid. That is not sarcasm, it was meant to be a joke. I’m sorry it went over your head but I’ll try and explain it to you.

        Mariano is 41 years old this month. If he pitches to his uniform number, he pitches till he’s 42, if he trades uniforms with Hughes, he’ll pitch until he’s…? 65!!
        That’s all that was meant. How you could interpret that as a slap at Jackie is truly a scary reach on your part.

  18. trade swish (despite i love him) and sign werth. swisher is great but cannot hit in the playoffs, and werth is a great postseason hitter

  19. YanksFanSince78 5 years ago

    Sounds good except for Crawford. He’s not going to add as many wins as his salary above Gardner will require. Plus we can’t have Lee and CC and expect not to into the $235 range. Let’s keep it simple and go w/ Gardner, Grandy and Swisher in the OF.

  20. Sniderlover 5 years ago

    I think Jeter would retire before batting 9th.

  21. No, no Crawford here we can get the same services from Gardy only with more plate discipline. And Move Cano to the fifth hole come on now… In fact move him fourth I’m tired of A-Rod batting cleanup when the Yanks abviously win more games with Cano behind Tex

  22. Boz 5 years ago

    I really dont see the Yanks going hard after crawford. they need pitching the most. the only way they get crawford is if his price demand comes down. plus he has stated he doesnt want to lead off and be considered only a stealing threat. I think the lineup will be more like this.

    Cano is NOT a 2 hitter. hes had better power numbers than Arod this year.

    SS Jeter
    DH Dunn
    1B Tex
    2B Cano
    3B Arod
    RF Swisher
    CF Granderson
    C Posada
    LF Gardner

    I can also see them trading Monetero and letting Romine take over after Posada walks.

    remember this is not what I want. this is what I think the Yankees will do based on history.

    I would let Jeter walk and have Gardner lead off and bring up Nunez for SS.

  23. n0s 5 years ago

    Matt Cain’s an ace.

  24. friscofan101 5 years ago

    while i think cain is one of the better pitchers in the big leagues and proving himself in the playoffs. he isnt a smart choice for the yankees because he is a fly ball pitcher. hed give up way to many homeruns, but to answer your question sabean wont trade any of his pitchers except zito (never gonna happen). if he was going to they would have traded shanchez for ugla in the offseason or try to swing him in a package for dunn or bautista at the trade deadline.

  25. Hardly. He may be a number 1 starter in the NL West but that usually transitions to a number 3 starter in the AL East. There are better pitchers to go after with Montero

  26. Sniderlover 5 years ago

    Lol… overrate prospects much?

  27. start_wearing_purple 5 years ago

    And I’d like to trade Ryan Kalish for Adrian Gonzalez and Heath Bell but we all know it’s not happening.

  28. moonraker45 5 years ago

    San Fran wouldn’t even send you Wilson’s beard for Romine. especially when they have that young catching prospect who is 100 times better… whats his name again?

  29. AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs 5 years ago

    So when is Snider Mr. 30-40 HR King going to reach those expectations? Never.

    Talk about overrating prospects.

  30. moonraker45 5 years ago

    He hit 14 hr in 298 Ab this year, thats on pace for 25. and he’s still only 22 and cito gave him a pretty jerky ride

    talk about being completely ignorant.

  31. moonraker45 5 years ago

    and besides what does that have to do with Romine?

  32. Sniderlover 5 years ago

    Who the hell is talking about Snider here?

    Jesus, get a brain.

  33. moonraker45 5 years ago

    oh is that how it works? so Matt cain would be a #3 starter on the yankees?

    You’re right phil hughes and aj burnette are much better then him… yahhh no.

    you have absolutely no clue how his skills will translate over, you cant use vasquez as the standard.

  34. Sniderlover 5 years ago

    Yup. He’s an ace in AL and NL. He is still very young and hasn’t reached his prime yet IMO and Giants won’t trade him anytime soon.

  35. start_wearing_purple 5 years ago

    Hey! No attacking Jesus… the Christian Coalition will get mad at you.

  36. moonraker45 5 years ago

    if romine would get you matt cain, jays could prob flip d’arnaud for hernandez.

  37. start_wearing_purple 5 years ago

    I’ll trade you Rollie Fingers mustache for Brian Wilson’s beard

  38. Yankees420 5 years ago

    So Dunn is more of a 2 hitter than Cano? Doesn’t make much sense, plus I think Dunn will get a good enough offer from some other team that is willing to stick him at 1B and you have to consider that Posada will probably need to DH a lot next season. Personally, I think Cano should be in the 3 hole with Teix/A-Rod batting 4/5 in whatever order Girardi sees fit. I’d do the lineup like this:

    LF Gardner
    RF Swisher
    2B Cano
    3B A-Rod
    1B Teix
    DH Posada
    CF Granderson
    SS Jeter
    C – I’m not sure who will be behind the dish when Posada DH’s, maybe a FA pickup or trade acquisition.

    If Jeter can’t be convinced to bat lower then he’d probably lead-off with Gardner batting 2nd, and Swisher moving down to 6th or 7th.

  39. Yankees420 5 years ago

    So Dunn is more of a 2 hitter than Cano? Doesn’t make much sense, plus I think Dunn will get a good enough offer from some other team that is willing to stick him at 1B and you have to consider that Posada will probably need to DH a lot next season. Personally, I think Cano should be in the 3 hole with Teix/A-Rod batting 4/5 in whatever order Girardi sees fit. I’d do the lineup like this:

    LF Gardner
    RF Swisher
    2B Cano
    3B A-Rod
    1B Teix
    DH Posada
    CF Granderson
    SS Jeter
    C – I’m not sure who will be behind the dish when Posada DH’s, maybe a FA pickup or trade acquisition.

    If Jeter can’t be convinced to bat lower then he’d probably lead-off with Gardner batting 2nd, and Swisher moving down to 6th or 7th.

  40. Boz 5 years ago

    I put Dunn at 2 because of his high OBP and the yankees tendency to use high OBP guys there. I do like swish in the 2 spot tho. he thrived there any time he was put there. I agree with you tho on DHing posada alot if they dont sign a DH only player. if that happens I bet we see Romine or Montero in the bigs this year.

    All in all the team would be so much better with Jeter in a lesser role as well.

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