Hoyer Willing To Listen To Offers For Gonzalez, Bell

Padres GM Jed Hoyer said in an interview on XX1090 Sports Radio that the club will listen to offers for Adrian Gonzalez though he expects to start the season with him, tweets Dan Hayes of the North County Times.  The GM even said that the club has yet to make the star slugger an offer as they are far apart on compensation and he will likely go elsewhere, tweets Marty Caswell of XX1090 Sports Radio.  Hoyer added that it is a near-certainty that Gonzalez will explore the open market after 2011, says Hayes (via Twitter).

While the Padres have yet to submit an offer to Gonzalez's agent, the two sides reportedly made plans to meet this week.  However, a long-term deal seems unlikely in the wake of CEO Jeff Moorad's comments last month and Hoyer's remarks this evening.

Hoyer will also listen to offers on Heath Bell as he believes that the club has two closer candidates in Mike Adams and Luke Gregerson, Hayes tweets.  Bell earned $4MM in 2010 and is due a raise in arbitration.

The Padres GM also confirmed that Mets GM Sandy Alderson has asked for permission to speak with Paul DePodesta but hopes that he will stay with San Diego, tweets Caswell.


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163 Comments on "Hoyer Willing To Listen To Offers For Gonzalez, Bell"


Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

Like Greinke, if they get blown away with an offer, I don’t see any problem with trading him.

Vivid_Reality
4 years 9 months ago

Sosa’s bat shard for Gonz. Thats fair, right?

wickedkevin
4 years 9 months ago

Let the repetitive/hilarious Red Sox rumors begin!

4 years 9 months ago

Haha, we think alike…

Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

I have no idea what you are talking about, but I think a trade of Reddick, Nava, Kelly, Kalish, Ellsbury, Pimentel, Rizzo, and Anderson would be a fair trade for A-Gon…

Sniderlover
4 years 9 months ago

Are you seriously suggesting all that for A-Gon would be fair?

Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

No

PookieGonzales
4 years 9 months ago

Hahah you even got me for a sec!! I was like ya that would be fair!!…… wait…..

YODA777
4 years 9 months ago

All of what being fair? Most of those names listed suck anyway. Ellsbury is the only decent player or prospect of the bunch.

4 years 9 months ago

Comments like that make it easy to find people who let their hatred of a franchise effect their judgment. Clearly Rizzo, Kelly, Kalish, and Pimentel are all legit prospects.

YODA777
4 years 9 months ago

I dont hate the Sox at all; however, I am not a big fan of Red Sox nation.
Your arrogance is hard to take sometimes.

BravesRed
4 years 9 months ago

I thought Epstein said Kelly and Westmoreland were untouchable? Or was that just Westmoreland? Also, eight guys for one year of a player? Maybe a combination of 2-4 of them.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

I was making a joke

BravesRed
4 years 9 months ago

Oh well. I bet if Epstein offered that, Gonzalez would be packed up and traded. I bet Hoyer would pack Gonzalez by himself for that much.

wickedkevin
4 years 9 months ago

Yeah, and Epstien would be packed up and shipped out too.

4 years 9 months ago

Theo doesn’t make any player untouchable, in the minors of MLB. No good GM does. Except for Westmoreland of course…he’s literally the most untouchable player in baseball, but for different reasons.

wickedkevin
4 years 9 months ago

Someday, people will appreciate your sarcasm.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

Hopefully

BravesRed
4 years 9 months ago

Well, it’s kinda hard to sense sarcasm over the internet.

Sawksfan
4 years 9 months ago

Waaaaaaay too much. Reddick, Nava and Anderson would be more than enough. I’d be willing to throw in Bowden but that’s pushing it.

(joking of course)

Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

My goodness.

Someone help me out

Sawksfan
4 years 9 months ago

I get your joke. I was joking that you were offering everyone and I was offering scrubs. C’mon man!

Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

My bad. Joke on joke on joke.

Sawksfan
4 years 9 months ago

We got jokes? hahah it’s all good.

Sawksfan
4 years 9 months ago

We got jokes? hahah it’s all good.

Ferrariman
4 years 9 months ago

reddick, nava and anderson might be enough at deadline if the padres are already out of contention and their is no other team interested in gonzalez that is willing to fork over a better package. in other words, aint gonna happen.

YODA777
4 years 9 months ago

If the Padres get to the trade deadline and that is all they could get for Adrian, they might as well keep him and take the two high draft picks.

YODA777
4 years 9 months ago

You can keep your minor league crap right back there Sawks. None of those guys you list would ever make the Padres Major League Offer. I would rather keep Agon and make another run if thats all the Padres would get. Meanwhile, the Sox can finish 3rd again in 2011 without Adrian and finish behind the Padres lol.

BoSoxSam
4 years 9 months ago

O.o Somebody can’t read! Or, puts on blinds when he sees parentheses apparently.

Sawksfan
4 years 9 months ago

Yeah man, didn’t you read what I wrote below? I was joking. That trade was reflecting what some people have said before. I’ll admit I’ve suggested a couple that should have me roasted here. It was a joke dude.

Fangaffes
4 years 9 months ago

It’s so easy to get the Sox haters wound up.

Sawksfan
4 years 9 months ago

Yeah man, didn’t you read what I wrote below? I was joking. That trade was reflecting what some people have said before. I’ll admit I’ve suggested a couple that should have me roasted here. It was a joke dude.

Beersy
4 years 9 months ago

As a Padre fan, I would be content with a deal centered around Kelly and Fuentes. A good young pitcher to build around and a fast, slick fielding center fielder who is a few years away would be fine with me. Obviously the Sox would have to throw in some other ” B/C” prospects, but I really don’t think this deal is out of the question. I would really love to get my hands on that Iglesias, but I know that won’t be happening.

BoSoXaddict
4 years 9 months ago

As a Red Sox fan, I would certainly be willing to give you Kelly, Fuentes and a few B/C prospects for A.Gonz.

Beersy
4 years 9 months ago

Unfortunately, Theo probably isn’t.

Sawksfan
4 years 9 months ago

Damn, you beat me to it!

Zuidvogels
4 years 9 months ago

The Red Sox are not giving up premium talent for a player they can throw just $ at the following season. So they don’t make a lot of sense. yes they ill get mentioned, but that’s only to get readers in. If you look at their current FO history, that kind of move would make no sense for them.

Don’t be the repetitive whiny ass fan who hates on the teams that bring in the most viewers to the site. Please step off the your Soap Box.

4 years 9 months ago

And so it begins… We get to hear all the crazy Gonzalez to the Red Sox offers from fans, ESPN, and numerous baseball insiders… This should get pretty entertaining! lol

BravesRed
4 years 9 months ago

Gonzalez should be traded. Like the Teixeira trade, they had him for maybe half a year, year and half at max. Trade him while you can get maximum value out of him. I think the Sox would give up Lars Anderson. Diamondbacks mike be looking for a closer, and Bell would probably get interest from them. Out of Adams, and Gregerson, my choice is Adams.

jwsox
4 years 9 months ago

why trade for a closer when there are going to be a good amount on the market as FA’s…soriano, jenk come to mind…

BravesRed
4 years 9 months ago

Go look at Soriano’s history. He sucks when not in free agency year. Go look at Jenk’s record. He’ll be non-tendered because he sucks.

vtadave
4 years 9 months ago

Jenks put up a 10.4 K/9 and 3.1 BB/9 this past year, so he hardly “sucks”. Now he’s not worth anywhere near what he’s likely to earn in arbitration, but there are far worse options out there as a potential closer.

As for Soriano, he hardly “sucked” in 2006-2007 when he wasn’t in a free agent year.

jwsox
4 years 9 months ago

exactly the only reason he will be non-tendered is because of the amount of money he would make in arb…jenks has been one of the top closer in the game since 05…he had a bad year in terms of walks and hits, and non save situations but if im correct he only blew at max 5 saves this season

and add to the fact that the whitesox have matt thronton, and sergio santos in the fold as cheaper options to close along with a potential resigning of putz

vtadave
4 years 9 months ago

So the Sox would give up their second-best closr prospect for a thunder bat at 1B? How generous.

BravesRed
4 years 9 months ago

You’re obviously blind.

vtadave
4 years 9 months ago

….because you mentioned Lars Anderson, who’s ranked behind Rizzo and I disagreed? Got it.

PookieGonzales
4 years 9 months ago

Except theo’s a lot harder to fool then frank wren. And he over values his prospects. And hoyer know the red sox system to well for them to try to push one over on him…….. theres just to many things working aginst the red sox in this one.

4 years 9 months ago

I’d love to hear an examples of where Theo Epstein overvalued his prospects rather than just making blanket statements based on no facts.

Fangaffes
4 years 9 months ago

Remember that time the Sox could have had Saltalamacchia or Teagarden for Buchholz and some other guy and Theo refused to make the trade. Boy, what an idiot!

4 years 9 months ago

Hmm Towers might call about Bell.

4 years 9 months ago

I’ve always considered the diamondbacks a sleeper for Soriano. The Rays could make a trade for Bell maybe Bartlett and Shields for Bell and Ludwick.

Beersy
4 years 9 months ago

The Rays would make alot of sense. It’s unfortunate that Crawford will be leaving this off season, because with Jennings knocking on the door, I think something involving Bell for Upton with some others included, would have really helped out both teams.

vtadave
4 years 9 months ago

Bell is in line for an $8 million+ salary in arbitration. Why trade a guy with Upton’s upside (esp when you’re losing Crawford), who is still relatively cheap, for one year of Heath Bell? Rays are cutting payroll, so having that much tied up in a closer isn’t something I’d want to see them do as a fan.

4 years 9 months ago

Because BJ’s probably at the point where he’ll never reach his full potential? How much longer is it going to be before we stop hearing about BJ’s ceiling and how much of a bust he turned out to be?

…Probably a few years before you hear it about Justin Upton.

Beersy
4 years 9 months ago

I think I said, with Crawford leaving this doesn’t make much sense. However, Bell is looking for a 3 year deal and if the Rays were willing to give it to him, I’m sure it would average less than $8 million. Not to mention Upton must be coming up to his arbitration years as well.

touchmymonkey
4 years 9 months ago

anyone else having problems posting? When I first opened this thread I had a message saying “user has forbidden you from posting to this site” but after I refreshed it disappeared. I may have some very odd trade proposals but nothing to get permanently barred lol.

Backup_Slider
4 years 9 months ago

Ya reckon it has something to do with your inviting people to touch your monkey?

jwsox
4 years 9 months ago

Dyan vicedio+escobar+carlos quentin+edwin jackson+cash for gonzo if he agrees to a pre trade extension…good deal for the whitesox and for the padres

4 years 9 months ago

Jackson seems like a little much. They need him if Garcia walks or Peavy experiences a setback.

jwsox
4 years 9 months ago

thats what chris sale is for though…that kid has proven he can pitch up in the bigs…and garcia probably wont walk due to him and ozzie being family…i just thought it was a legit deal that is competitive with other offers out there…you get a young pitcher who would love to pitch in that park…and power hitting corner out fielder to and a power hitting 1st base replacement(no one can replace him but vicedio is going to be somehthing special)…a 3-4-5 of ludwick-vicedio-quentin…is young, cheap, and strong and just what the pads have been missing for quite some time…plus it gives them a very good SS prospect in escobar….as a sox fan i dont really want to part with escobar and/or dyan but if to got them Adrian locked up then its a win win for both team, the sox get a gold glove 1stbasemen who would thrive in the cell and the pads get good young players and can stay competitive in the now and the future

jwsox
4 years 9 months ago

anything to keep him away from the bosox…they are turning into just as much of an “evil empire” as the yankees but no one hates them as much for some reason…last season the yankees big free agent splash was nick johnson, they traded for granderson and vasquez…while the bosox drop huge cash on lackey+cameron+scuturo..and no one says anything because they lost

4 years 9 months ago

Ill give you Lackey, but cameron and scuturo? Cmon, 2nd tier at best! Check the lineups and payrolls. Not even close!

YanksFanSince78
4 years 9 months ago

speechless.

4 years 9 months ago

contribute dude dont be a loser anymore

Beersy
4 years 9 months ago

Any deal with the Whitesox would have to include Beckham. Even with his struggles last year he has huge upside and the Padres could really use middle of the diamond help.

jwsox
4 years 9 months ago

highly doubtfull but it could happen…if you were to throw beckham in then kenny would clearly take vicedio out. Now a package of beckham+quentin+jackson could get it done but if and only if adrian signs an extension something along the lines of 4 years….With escobar coming along fast and omar visquel resigned already and with lilibridge playing like he did last season i dont see why the sox could do with out beckham. And there are alot of scouts out there that seem to think brent morell is better suited for SS and move alexi back to 2nd with vicedio at 3rd could be something worth taking a look at…

RedSoxDynasty
4 years 9 months ago

waaay too much to give up for 1 year of AGon! either Beckam alone or Quentin and Jackson is more than enough imo!

RedSoxDynasty
4 years 9 months ago

waaay too much to give up for 1 year of AGon! either Beckam alone or Quentin and Jackson is more than enough imo!

Ben_Cherington
4 years 9 months ago

with all do respect sir, you are a dummy! Most of the sox main players are home grown. yeah the overpaid for lackey, the year before the yanks overpaid for cc, and burnett, and tex for that matter.

Dont mention the contracts the white sox have giving out that worked out so welll ala jake peavy 16mil in 2011, 17mil in 2012, and 22mil in 2013!

yeah your team never givesbad contracts…dummy! :)

YanksFanSince78
4 years 9 months ago

Just because you choose to open your trap about the Yankees.

Sox Homegrown players in 2010- Youks, Pedroia, Vtek, Elllsbury, Anderson, Lowrie, Lester, Buchholz, Kalish, Reddick, Paps, Bard, Nava-7 full time players. 6 subs and fill ins.

Yanks Homegrown players in 2010- Cano, Jeter, Posada, Cervelli, Gardner, Mo, Joba, Hughes, RObertson, Pettitte, Aceves, Pena, Nunez, Miranda, Curtis-10 fulltime players. 5 subs and fill ins.

Thanks for playing.

Ben_Cherington
4 years 9 months ago

cano is amazing
jeter is overratted and not arguable
posada is almost done
cervelli not bad
gardner good
mo great
joba bad
hughes ok
reobertson not good
pettitte almost done
the rest arent worth commenting on!

Youk great
pedroia great
vtek done
ells is comparible to gardner
lowrie is ok
lester awesome
buck awesome
kalish ok
paps good
bard very good
the rest…eehhh

everyone can list tons of homegrown talent, hell you could list your entire double A team….my point is red sox homegrown has more impact.

like i said most of the sox MAIN players are home grown….the yanks best players are bought…other than cano. (talking about present i know jeter and mo were great at one time)

thanks for playing sir!

YanksFanSince78
4 years 9 months ago

Wow…I don’t recall making an arguement as to who was better than who. Quite childish of you but I’ll play that game with you.

-cano is amazing (agreed)
-jeter is overratted and not arguable (not arguable? call the guy old and on the decline, call the guy overpaid. However, he’s been the best overall SS in the last 15 years and will retire being top 5 ALL TIME in Bat Avg, OBP, Hits, HRS, RBI and top 10 in SB among SS. He also only needs 500 hits to pass Honus Wagner for the most hits ever by a SS and 524 to become just the 6th player to have 3,500 hits or more in history. Yeah, ok….overrated? He would easily be the best SS the Sox ever had.
-posada is almost done (granted. Last year is his last and 6 years from now he might be in the HOF. He ranks top 8 in just about every offensive category among C’s.
-cervelli not bad (he has his positives)
-gardner good (agreed)
-mo great (best closer ever)
-joba bad (disagree. ups and downs certainly. Lifetime stats of 3.77/1.36 and 362 ko and 143 walks in 353 IP. Yeah horrible for a 25 year old who was rushed).
-hughes ok (hmmm…little better than ok, but let’s see about 2011).
-reobertson not good (disagree. 3.99/1.44 w/ 170 ko and 71 walks in 135 IP. Amazing lifetime rate of 11 k’s/9 IP. Wouldn’t call him great but certainly not bad).
-pettitte almost done (granted. 1 or 2 years tops).
the rest arent worth commenting on!

Youk great (agreed)
pedroia great (agreed)
vtek done (agreed)
ells is comparible to gardner (ells is a little better when healthy)
lowrie is ok (agreed. wait and see if he can carry over from 2010’s small sample size)
lester awesome (agreed)
buck awesome (very good. let’s see what he does in 2011. His K/9 were a career low of 6.2/9 IP and his KK/BB rate was also a career low of 1.79 and while his ERA was a sparkling 2.33 his FIP was 3.61 and his xFIP was 4.20. I thought his 2010 performance was good enough to put him in the running, or at least the conversation for Cy Young along with Felix, Price and Sabathia. But let’s see if he can keep it up in 2011).
-kalish ok (.252/.305 isn’t ok but it’s a small sample size. Still decent performance for a sub who doesn’t play day in day out).
-paps good (agreed)
-bard very good (agreed)
-the rest…eehhh (ok)

So except for your total bias towards Jeter and Joba we agree on most. Still don’t know what that has to do w/ the fact that the Yanks had as many if not more homegrown players which was the point.

Ben_Cherington
4 years 9 months ago

Well atleast we agree on most, I think you are missing what I am saying, or maybe that it was 1am when i wrote it. My point is, currently the MAIN players for the sox are home grown and came up together.

I know the yanks have a lot of home grown talent but they are spread out over a lot of time, few and far between.

Now for Jeter, i was talking about next season. He might have had the best career ever at shortstop, a postion hard to hold down for a long time. I am a fan of jeter, and i wished the sox would of drafted him, but he is almost finished.

Joba…well i hate the guy, i am biased! :)

Hughes, as I have said in many posts, has tons of potential

Here is the thing, take away the yanks home grown talent and they are still in the playoffs with that lineup, and pitching staff

Take away the sox home grown talent and theres not much left, do you get what im saying here.

You cant compare the sox or any other team to yanks as far as going out year to year and getting the bet free agents. Now the yanks didnt get a lot last year due to payroll so high, and I think that the yanks will be hurting in the next few years with all of these big contracts running until the players are in there 40s.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 9 months ago

Other than 2008 the Yanks have NOT spent the most in FA.

Off the top of my head, NEW FA since 2006 as opposed to players already under contract that were just extended or resigned w/ contracts greater than $4 mil per-

Win/06-Igawa, Pettitte
Win/07-No one (Retained Pettitte, Arod, Mo and Posada)
Win/08-AJ, Tex, CC (Retained Pettitte)-
Win/09-Nick Johnson (Retained Pettitte)-

Take away 2008 and the Yanks have been relatively quiet as far as new FA spending.

RedSoxDynasty
4 years 9 months ago

Jeter overated? Really? If Theo threw 4/60 at him tomorrow would u say that? Jeter can never be properly evaluated on just his numbers fyi! I hate the yanks but love mo and jeter and respect the hell out of them! Dont be a child and let hatred blind reality. your comment would be the equivalent of a Montreal Canadiens fan saying Terry O’Reiily was just a no talent goon! PS, O’Reilly is my favorite player in any sport and no athlete was a better Captain or worked harder with less than Taz!

Ben_Cherington
4 years 9 months ago

1. i like jeter
2. i would not watch baseball if theo was dumb enough to offer him 4 for 60!
3. Jeter making 1.7x market value for a premium postions is dumb!
4. jeters numbers are very similar to scutaros. So by jeter presumably making so much more than scutaro, then he is overrated and overpaid, i mean the guy is 36! He had a great past but he is not that guy anymore. he is still good but not worth what he will get paid. and FYI im only talkin about value for playing…..not off the field worth.

If you think im wrong, talk to Hal about why things could get messy.

thanks for the input and wasting everyones time with bad comments

and this is a baseball forum…stop referring to hockey

RedSoxDynasty
4 years 9 months ago

Jeter overated? Really? If Theo threw 4/60 at him tomorrow would u say that? Jeter can never be properly evaluated on just his numbers fyi! I hate the yanks but love mo and jeter and respect the hell out of them! Dont be a child and let hatred blind reality. your comment would be the equivalent of a Montreal Canadiens fan saying Terry O’Reiily was just a no talent goon! PS, O’Reilly is my favorite player in any sport and no athlete was a better Captain or worked harder with less than Taz!

woadude
4 years 9 months ago

are you freaking kidding me? Miranda had how many at bats? Nunez pitched how many innings? dude, when these comments come up and you want to talk about homegrown players, just stay out of it and dont comment, be proud that you buy what you need to have this super all star team and just accept that you dont really go for homegrown, the ones that stuck by were there only because no superstar was worth throwing them away and they became good, Cano was almost given away but Texas took Arias away but the Yankees actually insisted they take Cano…

YanksFanSince78
4 years 9 months ago

I’m going to stop the conversation because you obviously read what you want. I posted both teams regulars and their subs and call ups. Even still the Yanks had more regulars than the Sox did. Read before you open your trap.

Jeter, Cano, Posada, Gardner, Hughes, Mo, Pettitte, Robertson, Joba, Aceves

Youks, Pedroia, Ells, Lester, Buccholz, Paps, Bard

All the others were backups, call ups and fill ins. Shut up dude.

Current FA earning $5 mil or more:

Yanks-Tex, CC, AJ
Sox- Scutaro, Beltre, Cameron, Drew, Lackey, Dice-K,

YOu know the fundemental difference between the Yanks and the Sox in terms of $$$$$$. Yanks paying fair market value to retain Jeter, Posada, Mo and Pettitte vs the Sox paying below market value to retain their’s (Pedroia, Youks, Lester, Paps).

Anyway, I’m done. Have a great offseason.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 9 months ago

Just because you choose to open your trap about the Yankees.

Sox Homegrown players in 2010- Youks, Pedroia, Vtek, Elllsbury, Anderson, Lowrie, Lester, Buchholz, Kalish, Reddick, Paps, Bard, Nava-7 full time players. 6 subs and fill ins.

Yanks Homegrown players in 2010- Cano, Jeter, Posada, Cervelli, Gardner, Mo, Joba, Hughes, RObertson, Pettitte, Aceves, Pena, Nunez, Miranda, Curtis-10 fulltime players. 5 subs and fill ins.

Thanks for playing.

woadude
4 years 9 months ago

white sox didnt give Peavy that contract dummy, it was the Padres, the Sox took it off their hands because at the time he was viewed as a cy young contender and going to be priced out of san diego’s grasp, if it wasnt for a fluke ankle injury, that 16 million was looking to be a bargain.

Ben_Cherington
4 years 9 months ago

insnt giving a contract and knowingly taking on a contract almost the same. Plus Peavy was already hurt when they traded for him if i remember correctly. Im really, who does that? Big contract with an injury?

jwsox
4 years 9 months ago

the yankees really didnt over pay for Tex the brids and the bosox were offering him contracts right along with the one he signed for the yankees, he chose NY becuase they got CC…yes an over pay but he was instrumental in the WS that year…and they got burnett Tex saw ny as the best chance to win year in and year out

jwsox
4 years 9 months ago

AND i never said the sox give out bad contract…but in all reality they dont….the last huge contract they gave out was paul konerko…yes they took on some big ones but there is a difference if it were not for a freak back injury peavy was shwoign signs of regaining form and rios had a moneter year for the sox….but what about them bosox….lackey, cameron is bad considering his age, same with scuturo, jd drew, david ortiz, manny ramirez…pretty good list of big bad contracts

4 years 9 months ago

You talk about Cameron and Scutaro yet leave out how your team claimed Manny Ramirez and Alexis Rios? Convient.

jwsox
4 years 9 months ago

never said the sox didnt have bad contracts, mannys isnt bad 3 mill defered with no interest over the next few years?….and to be honest peavy and rios were not the whitesox contracts they were the padres and blue jays that the whitesox took on….and rios is not a bad contract with the way he has beenplaying for the whitesox but still a huge one yes….peavy could turn out to be a bad contract yes but if he can come back healthy and regain cy young form it wont be as bad…home many cy youngs has lackey won?

Ben_Cherington
4 years 9 months ago

Nolan Ryan never won a cy young either, whats your point.

You said the sox are almost the “evil empire”, adn if that you meant by getting lackey, scutaro and cameron you obviously think they are going to be HOFs.

I would say the the white sox have taken or given worse contracts than the sox have thus making you all the future evil empire..right?

jwsox
4 years 9 months ago

also lets not forget the contract that the bosox gave manny and jd drew and david ortiz…some good ones there

Ben_Cherington
4 years 9 months ago

all three of which earned the contracts given to them! Whats your arguement, that they were bad contracts, if thats so, you really are dumb!

4 years 9 months ago

JD is the only one I would agree with you on. Both Manny and Ortiz produced in all the years they plyed for the BoSox. Check the year by year stats and compare it to the other players round the league earning around the same. They are equal or better than all of them! You found Drew….ask any Sox fan, they would agree with you. Although he was a huge part of the 07 WS run, there isnt really anything else worth mentioning about Drew.

RedSoxDynasty
4 years 9 months ago

David Ortiz has been quite underpaid over the years for the numbers hes put up since 2003! And Manny was even a bargain and worth every penny for the numbers he put up! Dont feel bad that you were totally wrong on 2 out of 3 though!

RedSoxDynasty
4 years 9 months ago

Fangraphs even says JD Drew was worth every penny he got so youre actually 0 for 3! lol!

RedSoxDynasty
4 years 9 months ago

David Ortiz has been quite underpaid over the years for the numbers hes put up since 2003! And Manny was even a bargain and worth every penny for the numbers he put up! Dont feel bad that you were totally wrong on 2 out of 3 though!

Ferrariman
4 years 9 months ago

their is not a chance in this lifetime the padres take on all that salary. you have to be more specific when you say “cash.” how much? 1dollar? 1million dollars? 10million dollars?

4 years 9 months ago

I REALLY REALLY REALLY wish Gonzalez and SD can work out an extension…It’s his hometown and he says he likes it there, I’m just hoping Hoyer gives him what he deserves.

oohyeah
4 years 9 months ago

Agon will not take a hometown discount. the padres can not afford him. they need to trade him for a couple of good prospects.

bonestock94
4 years 9 months ago

I don’t think they should trade him if it precludes them from making a run like they did in 2010. At least wait till the deadline.

Dylan Ramirez
4 years 9 months ago

I disagree. The rotation and bullpen that the Padres have will keep them in contention especially since they should get major league ready players back.

bonestock94
4 years 9 months ago

He was worth 5+ wins in 2010, that could be the difference in the ultra-tight NL West.

hurley55
4 years 9 months ago

I’ll throw out a wild card out there, Jays? They have the prospects.
Cecil, Stewart, Thames, maybe one other piece for A-gonz? Thats a pretty good haul for the Pads IMO.

vtadave
4 years 9 months ago

Thames? Really?

Gotta think Drabek would have to be involved.

hurley55
4 years 9 months ago

Actually yeah I agree, swap out Thames. He’s not really perceived as a big prospect by BA. Sub in Arencibia?

And I don’t think the Jays would give up Drabek unless A-gonz signed an extension. Much like the Phils when they got Halladay.

Cecil, Stewart, Arencibia would be a quality offer. Cecil still has 4 years of team control left.

vtadave
4 years 9 months ago

That would be a solid offer, agreed.

Ferrariman
4 years 9 months ago

no, i don’t think drabek would have to be involved. not unless agonz signs an extension(which he won’t). i’m assuming they will be looking for bats in return. preferably middle infielders. Aaron hill might be a fit+ Rzep.

4 years 9 months ago

Yeah AGon wont be traded to the Sox for any combo of players because Theo isn’t going to give up young talent for a 1 year rental and no promise of an extension being signed. Just isn’t going to happen. Lets just put that one to bed.

Fangaffes
4 years 9 months ago

I’m sure it would have to be contingent on a contract extension.

4 years 9 months ago

exactly

RedSoxDynasty
4 years 9 months ago

problem is Theo cant afford to wait a year! He works in Boston, and like the Yanks, he has to win now! he’ll trade something like Kelly, Lowrie, AND Rizzo for AGonz imo!

Hitttman
4 years 9 months ago

Why not set a price for Gonzales at two young starting pitchers in a sign-n-trade. Toronto maybe?

4 years 9 months ago

Is Sandy Alderson making Billie Bean’s front office staff? First J.P Ricciardi ( BB best friend) then Paul de Podesta…Kevin Towers on the list too?

adropofvenom
4 years 9 months ago

Why not? JP Riccardi is someone that Sandy Alderson hired in Oakland back in the 80’s (along with Billy Beane, for that matter). Before it was Billy Beane’s staff, it was Sandy Alderson’s staff….

And he worked with DePo in San Diego when he was CEO there, probably on Beane’s recommendation.

John LeClair
4 years 9 months ago

As a Sox Fan I’d Rather Miggy or Prince, they fit in better to the Sox anyways, Now I feel like A Gon is too old even though he is only 28 you sign him to an 8 year contract your stuck with him till 36. If he was 26 or 27 I would of liked that a lot better. Call me weird but I’d rather take Fielder or Miggy who are both a couple years younger.

Beersy
4 years 9 months ago

The only problem with this is that: 1. Cabrera isn’t available and 2. Fielder even though younger, will age a lot worse because of conditioning and will sooner rather than later be moved to full time DH. With Gonzalez you are also getting GG caliber defense.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 9 months ago

Also, no way Boras is going to let Fielder sign an extension.

Fangaffes
4 years 9 months ago

But will Fielder and Miggy even be able to bend over and pick up a grounder 8 years from now?

friscofan101
4 years 9 months ago

i know it would never happen because there in the same division, and personaly i want agon to stay in san diego for the rest of his carrer. i like the idea of teams keeping hometown players and it would make the whole league more competative.

wut would th giants have to give up for him? he would fit in real nice with the giants.

Beersy
4 years 9 months ago

With the Giants being division rivals, they would have to over pay. They may be better off waiting and hoping that Gonzalez doesn’t sign an extension with whomever the Padres trade him to and just try to sign him as a free agent.

4 years 9 months ago

To OLD? are you flat out stupid?….His puts up great numbers playing in petco and with no one around him…since 2007,leads the majors in road HR’s….Miggy and Prince? Two fat players who get bigger every year. Agon is also a gold glover,

WORTH EVERY PENNY!!

GMwannabe
4 years 9 months ago

No way Detroit trades Miggy.. They have a ton of money coming off the books this offseason. Prince isng much of a fit for Boston because he can hardly field a groundball. Boston is big on defense etc obviously whihc is why AGon is a perfect fit… of course just being a fit doesnt mean a trade will happen

BoSoxSam
4 years 9 months ago

As a Boston fan, I would love it if San Diego goes on a 30-win streak to start the season, and makes the playoffs so A-Gon doesn’t get traded and we can nab him in FA. xD Now, since that’s almost sure not to happen…I just hope if we -do- win the bidding, that we don’t overpay…meh.

GMwannabe
4 years 9 months ago

All these guys who are starting with the “here come the horrible Red Sox offers” why dont you guys take a stab at a legit offer… you talk like Boston fans are the only ones who make proposals like these…