Steinbrenner: Jeter Deal Must Work For Both Sides

Derek Jeter is almost certainly going to re-sign with the Yankees this offseason, but the Bronx Bombers aren't going to hand their shortstop a blank check. Yankees managing general partner Hal Steinbrenner told Michael Kay on 1050 ESPN that a deal between Jeter and the team would have to work for both sides (Click here to listen in). Steinbrenner says doesn't assume negotiations with the franchise icon will go smoothly.

“There’s always the possibility that things could get messy,” Steinbrenner said.

The Yankees don't expect talks to get ugly and they have been in contact with Jeter's representatives because they want to reach a deal.

“We absolutely want him back. We absolutely want [free agent closer Mariano Rivera] back. They’re career Yankees,” Steinbrenner said. “But having said that, we’re running a business here. So if there’s a deal to be done, it’s going to be a deal that both sides are happy with.”

Steinbrenner said the team's payroll will remain at a similar level in 2011. The Yankees entered the 2010 season with a payroll over $200MM, so they will presumably have the means to offer Cliff Lee, Jeter and Rivera generous deals.


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127 Comments on "Steinbrenner: Jeter Deal Must Work For Both Sides"


dizzle4
4 years 9 months ago

I wonder how the Tigers will do with Jeter at shortstop next year… :)

AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs
4 years 9 months ago

Sorry, Jeter has said he hates the Tigers.

alxn
4 years 9 months ago

lighten up

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

he’s the yankee troll of this site. just don’t feed him and he’ll tire himself out

baseballdude
4 years 9 months ago

where did you here that from ?? do you have a link. he wouldn’t hate the tigers he grew up in MI so he is a tigers fan

4 years 9 months ago

I live in Florida. I’ve grown up here. I’m not a Rays fan.

How does growing up somewhere make you a fan of that team?

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

if jeter grew up in florida he wouldnt be a rays fan either

Guest
4 years 9 months ago

Because they became a team after he was drafted?

HHHDMS
4 years 9 months ago

LOL ! :)

Andy Mc
4 years 9 months ago

i hope the wankees sign jeter for ten years

MB923
4 years 9 months ago

Hows that Vernon Wells contract going for the Jays?

DanHaren
4 years 9 months ago

hows kei igawa been doing

MB923
4 years 9 months ago

He ain’t on the team so I can care less how he does in AAA. No doubt a waste of money though.

baseballdude
4 years 9 months ago

how has aj burnett been going

yandz11190
4 years 9 months ago

Enjoying his World Series ring, as are the rest of the 09 Yankees.

sadp
4 years 9 months ago

It’s about the only thing Burnett can enjoy these days, the past.

yandz11190
4 years 9 months ago

Burnett had one bad season, granted it was a really bad season, and everyone is jumping ship. People shouldn’t give up on this guy. He played a big role in 09 and will come back from his 2010 season (Im not saying he going to be a #2 starter, or even live up to his contract though). All he needs to do is develop a third pitch, which he can throw consistently for strikes to get people off his fastball. He keeps fooling around with a change up in spring training, maybe this time he should actually use it and do himself a favor. If he can stop being so stubborn and listen to his pitching coach he should have a decent year.

Tko11
4 years 9 months ago

Im sure he is also enjoying his 5.26 era 15 losses and $16.5 million.

MB923
4 years 9 months ago

Same for Beckett with his 5.78 ERA and $12 million

I wonder if either of these 2 former teammates can bounce back to what they are capable of being.

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

did you get one too?

ThinkBlue10
4 years 9 months ago

someone needs to break it to them and tell them that it isn’t 09 anymore.

MB923
4 years 9 months ago

He’s done more for the Yankees than Jeremy Bondermon has done for the Tigers who makes only a couple of million less than Burnett (I assume you’re a Tigers fan cause I read your profile and see you posted on many Tiger stories)

j6takish
4 years 9 months ago

It’s justifiable for AJ Burnett to make 80mm because he won one game, Jeremy Bonderman had one win and 2 quality starts in the post season, so he was worth 240mm by Yankee standards

MB923
4 years 9 months ago

When did I say AJ was worth the money? Tell me where.

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

whereee do you get the balls to look at my girl. tell me where, i want to know where

MB923
4 years 9 months ago

lol

baseballdude
4 years 9 months ago

yeah i am a tigers fan. but bonderman had a couple year stretch were he was good for the tigers. what has burnett been doing for the yankees. nothing

MB923
4 years 9 months ago

He has only had 1 good year his entire career which was in 2006. His ERA every year in his career but 2006 (and 2008 if you count his 12 starts) has been 4.57 ERA or worse. His career ERA is 4.89

Burnett career ERA with the Yankees 4.61, oh and a WS too.

sadp
4 years 9 months ago

He had a better year than Jeter, actually.

MB923
4 years 9 months ago

Can’t argue that. Nontheless, both overpaid. Although I wouldn’t call either one overrated much. UZR shows neitehr are good at fielding.

Steelslayer
4 years 9 months ago

pretty smug comment from someone who supports a team that has had the most overpriced crash and burn signings in the last 10-15 years. I am sure a list could be generated that would support the idea

MB923
4 years 9 months ago

Will you show me where I said they do not?

A Tiger fan said Burnett is overpaid, I agreed. I said to a Tiger fan that Bonderman is overpaid, apparently he didn’t agree. If you think Bonderman is worth $12 million, you can take him for that.

Not once did I say the Yankees don’t overpay players.

jaysfansince93
4 years 9 months ago

actually not so bad he hit 31 homers this year, and posted an .845 ops, a hell of a lot better than jeter’s .710, not to mention he still plays passable defense

MB923
4 years 9 months ago

Since when does OPS determine who the best hitters are? Ichiro had an OPS OF .754 which was 36th in the AL. Does that mean 35 players above him had better years?

Define passable defense if you don’t mind. I don’t know if you’re a big fan of UZR, but it has Wells listed as the 4th worst CF in baseball at it. On the plus side, he didn’t have any errors all year.

jaysfansince93
4 years 9 months ago

ichiro is a game changer on the base paths, jeter is not. so that argument doesn’t really fly. also defensive metrics are way too erratic for me to take them too seriously just yet. I agree wells is no longer elite in the field but he doesn’t humiliate himself either

MB923
4 years 9 months ago

“ichiro is a game changer on the base paths, jeter is not. so that argument doesn’t really fly.”

Except that’s nothing compared to what you said originally

“posted an .845 ops, a hell of a lot better than jeter’s .710″

Actually Jeter did have 18 steals which is above league average of 12. and was only caught 5 times for a 78% stolen base rate, better than the average of 72%

Of course I know Ichiro is much faster, but Jeter has above average speed.

MB923
4 years 9 months ago

Also, coincidentally, both of them at their position were ranked 9th in WAR, although for total WAR, Vernon’s was higher.

Still not sure why we’re saying who’s better overall. Yeah Wells had the better year in 2010, but we shall see what happens in 2011. Overall I still think when healthy, they’re both “Pretty Pretty Pretty good” ballplayers, but neither are my top choice at their position

Steelslayer
4 years 9 months ago

Wouldn’t that be great—tie up more money for a group of aging players. Its a good thing they have the most money in baseball because I think they are stuck between a rock and a hard place. They have a group of older-ish players and are almost forced to sign them because of who they are and their long standing connection to the team

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

The yanks are prob more concerned with years rather then numbers.. i’m sure they’d do a 2/35 for jeter but would cringe at a 3/45, or 4/60

AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs
4 years 9 months ago

Typical comments from these three^

Guest
4 years 9 months ago

Good podcast. Good intelligent owner. Covered a lot. Thanks for posting.

roberty
4 years 9 months ago

Jeter has made $205 million as a Yankee. How much of a pay cut would he consider not an insult?

4 years 9 months ago

The Yankees owe Derek Jeter NOTHING besides market value next year, his contract should reflect that. Any team that pays an aging player who’s regressing based on what he used to make or what he did in the past deserves what they get stuck with. Jeter has done a lot of good things for the Yankees…… AND he’s been paid handsomely for it, so as of right now both sides are equal. Anyone who thinks the Yankees need to pay Jeter more than market because of who he is and what he’s done need to tell Jeter to give back some of the nearly $23 million he made in 2010 because he wasn’t worth it. How about calling that $23 million his “payment” for who he is and basing his next contract on common sense. Don’t get me wrong, I like Jeter well enough, I’m not a Yankee hater either, in fact I usually find myself defending them, I just find it ridiculous that some people want the Yankees to give him a blank check. They do no owe him anything, in fact, he’s made a hell of a lot more money as a Yankee than he would have anywhere else, so perhaps the Yankees are the ones who are “owed” something.

/off soapbox

4 years 9 months ago

First off, I agree with everything you said. That being said, Jeter is worth a lot in marketing sense, probably more than anyone else in baseball, and I am sure Jeter and his agent realize this. It might not be unreasonable for him to want some of this reflected in his contract. He will end up getting far more than he is worth in a playing sense but it is probably really hard to peg his true value.

went9
4 years 9 months ago

At the age of 37, Posada got a 4 yr deal to take him to the age of 40. At the age of 39, MO got a three year deal to take him to the age of 41. At 33, A-Rod got a 10 year deal to take him to the age of 42. Jeter will start the ’11 season at the age of 36. Wouldn’t you think he would be looking for 5 years minimum to take him to the age of 40?
Why would Jeter take a kick in the face with a 2/35m deal? I would think his agent will start with 5/90m….and go from there.

Sniderlover
4 years 9 months ago

Lol… it would be absolutely epic if Yankees signed Jeter to a 5yr/90 mil contract.

went9
4 years 9 months ago

His agent will look at Jeter as a career 70.4 WAR player, all for the Yankees and a 7.1 WAR player in ’09. This is where Hank thinks it will get “messy”. If the FO wants to reduce the years down to 3, the agent will want them to pay through the nose. Three years only gets Jeter to the age of 38. If that’s all Jeter wants to play, then it won’t be a problem but Jeter has a lot of records to break and may want to play till he’s 41….it may get “messy”.

Slopeboy
4 years 9 months ago

Only if you’re chipping in . You didn’t hear what Steinbenner said, did you?

Jarnold
4 years 9 months ago

3yr 36mm is fair and much more than he can get anywhere else …. Oh and a position change has to be talked about

Tko11
4 years 9 months ago

Where would you have him play? 3b is taken by Arod and 2b is taken by Cano

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

catcher? can’t be any worse the posada defensively.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 9 months ago

A) Posada is top 10 one of the best offensive C in history.(.277/.377/.479 w/ 261 hrs) B) He was coming off an incredibly good year @ .338/.426/.543 w/ 20 hrs. C) Mo was, and still is, the best closer in the game. In 2007 he had an off year but the Yanks were clearly w/o a better option. D) Arod was a deal that Cashman wanted no part of. He stated if Arod opted out then he was done as a Yankee. It was the Tampa faction that negotiated that deal with Arod. E) 2/35 isn’t realistic but neither is 5/$90.

I’m sure the Yanks have had the conversation with Jeter that he simply can not expect to be the SS for long if he doesn’t turn things around.

went9
4 years 9 months ago

If Jeter is getting married next week and gets busy having a family, he may want to still be playing ball when his kids could see him play. Maybe he’s too late for that train of thought but it may be in the back of Jeter’s head. And if the FO paid Posada till he’s 40, MO till he’s 41, and A-Rod till he’s 42, Jeter may want to be in that age neighborhood on this contract. The guarantee in years may be more important to Jeter than the $$/yr. And yes, he will need to move to left field one day and that may turn out to be sooner rather than later. Somehow, no matter how “messy” Hal and Hank help make it, they still get it done before pitchers and catchers report.

4 years 9 months ago

If Jeter wants his future kids to see him play he is better off dropping $29.99 for the 1996-2000 World Series box set than playing into his 40s.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 9 months ago

They’ll get it done before Thanksgiving. I would be shocked if it takes more than 2 weeks to get done.

4 years 9 months ago

Jeter had a down year by his standards, but as far as the league is concerned he still was one of the better shortstops. And there isn’t anyone else available at the moment who would be better or even close to his level of production.

So, Jeter is going to be around for a few years. Plus, we don’t really know if he is truly “declining”. Players have off years and usually don’t just fall of of a cliff. Let’s see what happens in 2011 first.

Tough to see $35m as a kick in the face, especially when it’s more than anyone else would pay. What would Jeter get on the open market? 24m over 3 years? 30M at best?

went9
4 years 9 months ago

It is a kick in the face when compared to Posada’s 4 yr deal at the age of 37. Jeter’s 36. I’m just saying, his agent will fight for more years. The years may be more important than the $$/yr. Just looking from the agents point of view. No other team will get him as big payday as the NYY. They need each other.

4 years 9 months ago

Compare Posada’s 2007 year to Jeter’s 2010 year. That’s what Jeter and his agent need to look at, and when it gets right down to it, no matter how much of a god Jeter is to the Yankees and NY, it wouldn’t be a kick in the face. Jeter is an icon. But it’s a crying shame how baseball has evolved into more of a business, not a game.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 9 months ago

It’s not really an easy comparison. Posada’s previous contract paid him an avg of $10 mil per. For a C who posted a line of .280/.390 w/ 30 dbls and 23 hrs (2002-2007) and played decent defense (30% CS rate) that was probably slightly below market for a guy who was a top 5 offensive catcher. In his walk year he had his finest season at .338/.426 w/ 20 hrs. He cashed in and for a nice little raise of 4/$52. Jeter in compaison has been the highest paid SS during his last contract earning an avg of $18.9 mil per. Unlike Posada, he’s coming off his worst year ever. Posada had momentum and was “underpaid” whereas Jeter has ZERO momentum and has, purely by the numbers, been overpaid. Even if Jeter were a FA last year I couldn’t see the Yanks being justified to give him MORE money considering he earned $21 mil. If anything, maybe he would’ve gotten more years than what he’ll get now, but based on his 2010 numbers and his age I would hope he’s willing to accept less money. Maybe something like 3/$54.

went9
4 years 9 months ago

Jeter does have an ego. Since the FO paid Mo, Posada, and A-Rod into their 40’s, Jeter will want the same respect. Also, with the new stadium, the organization has more money than ever before. He will want years, or more dollars for less years.

4 years 9 months ago

Just to see anyone else make an offer would make my day lol

Encarnacion's Parrot
4 years 9 months ago

You give a player a contract for what he can do, not for past accomplishments.

Even though Jeter is a current Yankee icon, future HOF and one of the best SS to play the game, he isn’t going to get paid something ridiculous because he’s had a fantastic career.

3 years, $35mil more front-loaded. $13/$13/$9.

4 years 9 months ago

His previous $189M contract was pretty ridiculous. You think they give him that if he didn’t help the team earn four championships in the previous years?

The Yankees are going to “overpay” and give him one year too many. And he deserves every penny of it for what he has meant to the franchise.

Encarnacion's Parrot
4 years 9 months ago

And that’s why in 2 years the Yankees will possibly be in shambles. They have the coin to toss around, but locking up so many players until they retire disables them from injecting any youth into their team. As they age, their production will decrease.

I’m not saying locking up Jeter for 3-4 years is a bad idea, but locking up Tex and A-Rod for as long as they did will hurt them soon enough. Burnett is already hurting them.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 9 months ago

Tex’s deal ends at age 36. As long as he’s healthy he should be able to earn every penny of it. Not an issue. Burnett had a bad year not because of age or injury but because he couldn’t put things together. His stuff is just as nasty in 2010 as it was in 2008. The contract looks bad because of his 2010 performance and not his 2010 age. Pettiite is 4 years older than AJ and throws a FB 6 miles slower and yet he way out pitched AJ last year.

Encarnacion's Parrot
4 years 9 months ago

My point was $16.5mil doesn’t really equate to a 4.83 FIP. Neither did his 4.33 FIP in 2009.

Teix earned his contract in 2009 [most Yankees did], but not in 2010. Does $20.625mil equate to below-average defense [at 1B no less] and an .846 OPS? Nope. Even though his BABIP was about 30 points lower than his career norm, it still doesn’t justify him being overpaid.

Also, how hard you throw has nothing to do with anything. AJ may have the filthiest curveball in the game, but he’s still a slightly-above average pitcher who had a career year in 2008.

MB923
4 years 9 months ago

From what I heard, while I do follow UZR a little bit (not sure if that’s what you’re going by), UZR is not good to judge 1B. It doesn’t judge scoops, it doesn’t judge foul outs (whether they’re easy flies, long runs or over the stands or dugout) those are some key plays a 1B usually makes.

MB923
4 years 9 months ago

Also, I cannot stand FIP at all. There’s no way you can tell me that a pitcher shouldn’t be penalized for hits allowed except for HR. That’s almost saying every ball put in play is a playable ball. I’m more of a fan of ERA, WHIP, K/BB ratio and BAA

YanksFanSince78
4 years 9 months ago

Dude, I’m so tired of having to defend against every absurd statement made towards the Yankees. On what planet using what proof was Tex a below average defender at 1B last year? Even using bill james bible (which I use half hearted for various reasons), Tex ranked 4th overall and 2nd in the AL behind Daric Barton. As for his offense, yes he had a down year, but he still had 33 hrs, a .365 OBP and was worth 3.5 WAR.

Also, please take the stats w/ a grain of salt. As much I love factual information when I see that Dunn scored a -3.1 UZR and Tex a -2.9 I just shut down and scratch my head dude. Really? Would anyone EVER put Dunn and Tex in the same class defensively @ 1B? Daric Baron (14.2) and Ike Davis (11.9) have double digit UZR ratings and no one else in THE AL OR NL have a UZR above 5.2 (Adam LaRoche). If you love at the various “bible ranking” and UZR ratings at various positions there are simply things that just make you scratch your head.

4 years 9 months ago

Which is why Hal will be a much better owner than George, though not as colorful. Hopefully things don’t get ugly in negotiatons. Jeter has got to take a paycut however, I think he should just choose 3-4 years, at which in the end of the deal he retires, and earns around $10M per.

MB923
4 years 9 months ago

I would offer him no more than $15 million a year. I hope Jeter isn’t greedy to ask for more just because A-Rod got a big contract

4 years 9 months ago

Even Cashman said he wanted no part of that A-Rod deal. George Steinbrenner(RIP)really should not have done that deal. I bet Cashman was pissed when he heard of it. But anyway, I believe Jeter is classy enough to take a paycut in his later years. When A-Rod was brought in, he didn’t want to move from SS, and I don’t blame him. He was in his prime, he was probably the best shortstop in the game, and he had been there practially his whole career. He’s no Chipper Jones but i’m sure he had his reasons.

0bsessions
4 years 9 months ago

George Steinbrenner DIDN’T do that deal. That one was mostly Hank from everything I’ve seen.

0bsessions
4 years 9 months ago

Also, Jeter wasn’t even close to the best shortstop in the game, that was A-Rod, the guy he refused to move over for.

TapDancingTeddy
4 years 9 months ago

I have no idea what Derek is going to get, but based on some of the comments in here, whatever it ends up being, it will make some of you guys nuts.

nictonjr
4 years 9 months ago

Does Hal know about the ‘intangibles’???

xslider138
4 years 9 months ago

Figure they may go 3 yrswith 4th option based on numbers or just do outright 4yr deal but 3/40 or 4/50-60. I wouldn’t go more then 15 a yr he ison the decline .. he’s not going to change
positions though regardless of how he plays at short. From what it sounds like from Hal though they aren’t going to overpay him or give him anything near to what he is earning now.

xslider138
4 years 9 months ago

Figure they may go 3 yrswith 4th option based on numbers or just do outright 4yr deal but 3/40 or 4/50-60. I wouldn’t go more then 15 a yr he ison the decline .. he’s not going to change
positions though regardless of how he plays at short. From what it sounds like from Hal though they aren’t going to overpay him or give him anything near to what he is earning now.

xslider138
4 years 9 months ago

Its building time to find his replacement. They just drafted2 hs shortstops high in draft. Jeter will be around figure 4 more yrs with hopes one of those kids comes up big or is damn close by time jeter retires b ut expect incentives based on stat lines for career numbers.

InvalidUserID
4 years 9 months ago

As long as Jeter doesn’t get more than 3+ years, I’d consider it a win for the Yankees. No way Jeter goes year by year, he wouldn’t agree to two, so 3-4 years is likely the sweet spot. Really, anything more than 3 and you’re going past the useful baseball life of Jeets.

As for the $$$, I’d say surely less than what he is making now. I’d say, adjusted for the Yankees, $15M is fair to both sides though he’s likely to make more than that. It’s tricky because he’s the face of the organization and who else is going to replace him at SS?

xslider138
4 years 9 months ago

It will be a busy offseason for yanks with jeter and mo plus going to look at bp arms and bench help. I think joba could be trade bait and im not so sure yanks sign lee. Cc and lee are good friends but lee liked his time in texas and its closer to his home plus the rangers are goong to want to show fan base there they want to stay as a top contender and nolan ryan is going to want to show he’ll pay as the new owner down there.

roberty
4 years 9 months ago

10 years, $100 million.

Encarnacion's Parrot
4 years 9 months ago

Perhaps if his agent was Scott Boras.

4 years 9 months ago

Why not give him incentives like Arod? 3000 hits, 3100, 3200, 3300, etc pay him a few million each. How bout 4y/56 mil front loaded 16m, 14m, 14m, 12m with 2 mil bonus for 3K hits and 1 mil for each 100 after that. Use the “savings” from his old contract each year to get other FA’s like Lee. If Jeter is a team player like everyone says he will take less to win. He already has more money then God, why would he get greedy and screw up his legacy?