Quick Hits: Pettitte, Figgins, Giants, Hoffman

On this date in 2002, the Diamondbacks signed Carlos Gonzalez as an amateur free agent. Two blockbuster trades and one breakout season later, CarGo has agreed to a seven-year extension with the Rockies. Here are today's links…

  • Andy Pettitte told Brian Costello of the New York Post at his home in Texas that he's just "chilling out, hanging" and still hasn't decided whether he'll play in 2011.
  • The Mariners have officially asked Chone Figgins to move back to third base, reports Kirby Arnold of the Daily Herald. Figgins has played more games at third than at any other position, but he played second base last year.
  • The Giants will likely rely on players already in the organization for infield depth now that Edgar Renteria has agreed to sign with the Reds, according to Jon Heyman of SI.com (on Twitter).
  • Trevor Hoffman is leaning toward retirement, according to Heyman (on Twitter). The reliever has drawn some interest this offseason, but he had hoped for the chance to close in 2011.
  • Michael Girsch will replace John Abbamondi as the Cardinals' assistant GM, according to Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports (on Twitter).


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60 Comments on "Quick Hits: Pettitte, Figgins, Giants, Hoffman"


Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

I would LOVE for the jays to get Figgins out of Seattle.

4 years 7 months ago

what do you think it would take from the Jays to make that happen??

Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

I think it would take a starter and 2 mid level prospects… no one that highly ranked because the Mariners would be shedding the contract.

I’d look at a Marc Rzepcynski, Eric Thames and Mastroianni..

Something like that, take the full contract.

Andy Mc
4 years 7 months ago

too much.

4 years 7 months ago

That’d be an interesting trade, potentially good for both teams

Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

I think he’s a perfect match for the Jays, 3B who can lead off. His salary is unappealing, but Jays shed so much payroll its worth it for them to take the chance, Move Bautista back to RF

Figgins 3B
Escobar SS
Lind 1B
Bautista RF
Wells C
Snider LF
Encarnacion DH
Arencibia C
Hill 2B

Not a bad looking lineup

4 years 7 months ago

Yeah I’ll give you that, that’s a pretty good lineup. I’m a Mariners fan, and I think it’d be a good idea to trade him if we can still get some value out of him; it’d give the M’s some needed payroll flexibility.

Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

exactly, thats why it works with both teams… If Figgins has another down year, then the rest of his contract is probably going to be unmovable and an anchor to a team that has some up and coming prospects and the best pitcher in the AL, they need to flexibility to fill holes as they see fit.

TartanElk
4 years 7 months ago

I’m not a Yankees fan, my loyalty lies with the Tigers, but man is Pettitte being a huge a-hole. He has an entire team waiting on his decision, teammates he’s had for years waiting for him to say something. He has an entire organization waiting to do anything based on what he decides, and all he’s doing is “chilling and hanging?”

4 years 7 months ago

Allow me to translate “chilling and hanging”.

“Waiting for a number from Cashman so ludicrous that I have no choice but to cease chilling and hanging.”.

I say a deal gets done at 1 year and 17-18 million.

Since_77
4 years 7 months ago

I agree he’s waiting for the right offer but the danger is he could wait too long.
The Cubs just made a trade for a starting pitcher maybe Zambrano or Dempster are available for a trade.

Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

Why would the cubs add garza then lose z or dempster… not making a lot of sense here

Since_77
4 years 7 months ago

Because both Zambrano and Dempster make a lot more money the Garza. Maybe they can also pick up other pieces to fill other holes they have on the team or just get prospects.

Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

but trading zambrano or dempster, despite of what they make, would create a hole in itself.

Cubs have no rotation depth at this point, adding Garza but losing z or dempster is completely counter productive and makes zero sense

guest_54
4 years 7 months ago

“Garza would join Ryan Dempster, Tom Gorzelanny, Randy Wells, Carlos Zambrano and Carlos Silva in a crowded Chicago rotation. If the Rays-Cubs deal goes through, it wouldn’t be surprising to see Cubs starters appear in trade rumors before long.”

Chuck345
4 years 7 months ago

Unload some dough.

4 years 7 months ago

Because it’s an upgrade and Zambrano has a ridiculous contract for how bad he is.

Vmmercan
4 years 7 months ago

They offered him 12…..I can’t see it going past 16 which is what they offered him in his first one year deal. I think it gets done in the 14-15 range.

flickadave
4 years 7 months ago

Might be that he saw the way Jeter’s contract negotiations were made public and the PR shellacking Jeter took and he is just going to wait for the Yankees to make him an offer he can’t refuse. Remember, he’s a free agent not Yankees property. If the Yankees don’t feel like waiting, they can just go a different direction.

Vmmercan
4 years 7 months ago

Brian Cashman, along with everyone who has publically spoken on behalf of the Yankees has said Pettitte’s decision has no impact on what they do for the remainder of the offseason. I don’t know why people keep making this same comment. Even if the Yankees go make a trade for a starter tomorrow, Pettitte is still useful at the right price, all it would mean is Nova starts the year at AA or AAA.

TartanElk
4 years 7 months ago

Of course they’re going to say that. Would you want your team to say “Yeah if Pettitte retires, we’re screwed and we have no idea what to do for next year?”

It’s the same reason politicians say the things they do. They have to.

Vmmercan
4 years 7 months ago

Except it makes sense and I just explained why. Cashman has enough spots in the rotation for two starters. Even if Andy comes back, he should make a trade for the right price. Without Pettitte, he’s still not making a deal for a starter unless it makes sense.

Flharfh
4 years 7 months ago

No one is going to trust Trevor to close after his meltdown last year. The best he can hope for is to sign with a non-contender, pitch well, and take over the job mid-season after a trade or injury.

monkeyspanked
4 years 7 months ago

Maybe the M’s will get even smarter and have Figgy bat leadoff so Ichiro can knock him in all the time. They had it all backwards last year. Figgins walks (or has the potential to walk) more than Ichiro. And you KNOW Ichiro hits better than Figgins. It’s a no-brainer that I don’t know why they didn’t figure out. He was most effective as a leadoff hitter for the Angels and then the Mariners go and hit him 2nd.

AKstratofan
4 years 7 months ago

I agree with Figgins hitting leadoff. Only makes sense to have the player with averages over 200 hits to hit 2nd and the player with the 100 bb potential to hit 1st…

MB923
4 years 7 months ago

Uhh, come on Andy, decide!

Chuck345
4 years 7 months ago

Pettitte jus’ chilling having a beer. I love the sense of urgency.

Chuck345
4 years 7 months ago

Did someone really ask Pettitte, “How’s it hangin?”

Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

short, shrivelled and always to the left

Chuck345
4 years 7 months ago

Always knew he was a little soft.

Since_77
4 years 7 months ago

If he was retired why wouldn’t he just say so. Sounds like he is waiting to be paid.
In 2007 the Yankees needed a pitcher in June and they paid Clemons over 20 million to come back. I bet he thinking about that.

Chuck345
4 years 7 months ago

Perhaps Andy is planning a mid-season signing like Clemens in 2007 so Suzyn Waldman can go ape**** on the radio again.

DunkinDonuts
4 years 7 months ago

I’m pretty sure it will take at least $16-17M to get him to stop shootin’ some b’ball outside of the school…

MB923
4 years 7 months ago

ANDY PETTITTE IS IN HANK’S BOX

Yanksfan2010
4 years 7 months ago

I can’t believe that Pettitte is just chillin out and relaxing. The entire team is waiting for him to make up his mind. Hurry up already.

4 years 7 months ago

It’s all about the mighty dollar. If Hank ain’t upping the ante, Pettitte will be sitting on his fanny.

Fangaffes
4 years 7 months ago

If Pettitte doesn’t come back and there’s a big gaping hole in the Yankees rotation, who will be blamed – Pettitte or Yankees management?

Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

If he wants to retire thats his prerogative. at this point the yankees are just holding on because they are desperate. Realistically if the rotation looked good they would have TOLD andy to stay home by now.

Chuck345
4 years 7 months ago

Please don’t use that big word in there.

4 years 7 months ago

Wow how could you blame Pettitte? That’s the responsibility of the front office. It’s like the year they didn’t have a strong rotation and thought bringing in Clemens mid season would do the trick. That wasn’t Clemens fault it was managements.

RepOak
4 years 7 months ago

I can already see giants having infield issues next year. Injuries, depth, ect. Might have to start calling up their minor leaguers…

gigantes2425
4 years 7 months ago

Guys like belt and crawford? I’m okay with that. The only guy that’s always hurt is sanchez though and derosa can cover that. And for tejada, other then 2007 when he played 133 games, he’s played in at least 156 games starting in 1999. That includes 6 consecutive seasons playing all 162.

RepOak
4 years 7 months ago

Giants will not want play tejada everyday. Higher risk of injury. Plus giants might want to start playing their rookies. How about 3rd base? You really think Sandoval can handle that position if he even makes the team?

gigantes2425
4 years 7 months ago

Guys like belt and crawford? I’m okay with that. The only guy that’s always hurt is sanchez though and derosa can cover that. And for tejada, other then 2007 when he played 133 games, he’s played in at least 156 games starting in 1999. That includes 6 consecutive seasons playing all 162.

Chris Montgomery
4 years 7 months ago

Thats weak. The giants are so loaded with infield prospects its ridiculous, Belt and Crawford for example. We got Derosa sitting on the bench, so he can play 3rd or 2nd… and after Sanchez recovers from this surgery then i see him playing pretty much full time at 2nd. But as far as the giants having infield issues next year that is just absurd. The Giants pitching will get them back deep into the postseason and maybe another championship.

4 years 7 months ago

Cubs and Mariners trade? What about Fukudome and a prospect for Figgins?

MB923
4 years 7 months ago

Maybe you meant Fukodome FOR a prospect and Figgins????

Or

Figgins and a prospect for Fukudome?

CrustyJuggler
4 years 7 months ago

Fukudome doesn’t fit with the M’s, so I can’t see how that works.

Zeppelin5083
4 years 7 months ago

Andy Pettite is chillin out, maxin, relaxin all cool and all shootin some b-ball outside the school?

Andy Mc
4 years 7 months ago

dream on.

$3081341
4 years 7 months ago

2-3 mid-level prospects for Figgy should get it done. 1 O.F. & 1 infielder.

Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

hahaha

m4r1n3r
4 years 7 months ago

Straight across for Morrow :)

Vmmercan
4 years 7 months ago

Because they were a top 3 team in the league last year? Because if he returns they are no worse than they were last season? And if anything, they are better.

Swisher might regress.

Teixeira, Jeter and A-Rod played through injury most of the season. It didn’t get the same publicity as Sox major injuries because they played through them and they weren’t as catastrophic, but the numbers still suffered and that’s evident, especially for Tex who is not over the hill.

Meanwhile, Granderson fixed his swing and took off so likely will be better for longer this year, Gardner is another age closer to his prime with Cano and Martin/Montero has to be better than last year’s Posada/Cervelli. Same with Posada over Johnson at DH.

MB923
4 years 7 months ago

I’m not the one who offered the trade, but my point was, Fukudome > Figgins

The_Silver_Stacker
4 years 7 months ago

Swisher put up similar numbers, his AVG went up when he adjusted his stance at the plate, he used to have too many moving parts, now he has less movement at the plate and it paid off really well last year.

The_Silver_Stacker
4 years 7 months ago

Swisher put up similar numbers, his AVG went up when he adjusted his stance at the plate, he used to have too many moving parts, now he has less movement at the plate and it paid off really well last year.

Vmmercan
4 years 7 months ago

Sustain injuries to whom? Rivera was hurt at one point last year, Jeter was hurt, A-Rod was hurt…Now Granderson and Tex were also hurt but are still in their prime so a year older shouldn’t matter. Swisher and Gardner were hurt but same story. So who is this magical player on the Yankees’ team who will get hurt next year due to age and not the fact baseball players on any team at any time can suffer an injury?

ZoinksScoob
4 years 7 months ago

That’s what I was referring to… there is no way that Fukudome > Figgins on ANY measurable level. I can’t think of a single team that wouldn’t rather have Figgins over Fukudome, especially after seeing what Fukudome can (and mostly can’t) do on a baseball field. Figgins had a strong second half, especially after Don Wakamatsu was fired (take that for what you will); but his overall 2010 season was poor compared to all of his past seasons because his first half was THAT atrocious. His second half can give the M’s hope that, especially after Figgins has moved back to his more comfortable position of 3B, he can perform well enough to get his real value back to where it should be so they can get the proper amount in trade. But if you look at Figgins’ performance over the past 3 years and Fukudome’s, there’s no contest as to who is perceived to be and who actually is the better player. And there’s NO WAY that any GM in his right mind would give up more than a fringe prospect for Fukudome, and that’s only if the Cubs ate at least $9-$10 million on the contract. If you’re a Cubs homer trying to build up Fukudome’s trade value… best of luck to you.

MB923
4 years 7 months ago

Nope, Yankees fan. Neither are really that good though.

After all, his Avg OBP and Slug all have gone up the past 3 seasons (although not by much, but still has gone up) where as Figgins has gone up and down

Neither are good and worth much.

Career OPS+
Fukudome- 100
Figgins 97

BA/OBP/Slug

Fukodome- .258/.368/.410
Figgins- .287/.359/.376

Unless played at 3rd base, Figgins is sub par defensively. Fukudome is poor in CF but above average (barely) in RF.

Speed- Figgins
Bat- Depending on what you like more, batting average OBP, slug, whatever. Either or, Fukodome.
Defense- Figgins if at 3rd

Nontheless, I wouldn’t want either guys, and I don’t expect that trade to happen.