Blue Jays Interested In Trading Juan Rivera

The Blue Jays would like to trade Juan Rivera, whom they acquired from the Angels in the Vernon Wells swap, writes Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com.

Rivera, 33 in July, is scheduled to be a free agent after the 2011 season and does not factor into the Blue Jays' long-term plans, according to Rosenthal. Rivera projects as a reserve for the Jays if they field an outfield of Travis Snider, Rajai Davis and Jose Bautista, but he could start in the outfield if Bautista is moved to third base.

The Blue Jays didn't especially want Rivera from the Halos, according to Rosenthal, but rather took him on and the $5.25MM he's owed in 2011 to rid themselves of Wells' hefty contract. It's unlikely the Jays will be able to trade Rivera before the beginning of Spring Training, writes Rosenthal, when teams begin developing needs on account of injuries and ineffectiveness.

In 10 seasons with the Yankees, Expos and Angels, Rivera has posted a line of .280/.328/.461.


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187 Comments on "Blue Jays Interested In Trading Juan Rivera"


Ferrariman
4 years 6 months ago

can anyone really say they are surprised?

BVHjays
4 years 6 months ago

Nope – if they can get something remotely valuable for him, THEN I’ll be surprised. But with Anthopoulos, maybe I shouldn’t be…

4 years 6 months ago

someone of value….pfffft look this is whats gonna happen….somehow he’ll trade rivera back to the angels for their top prospect and money

gs01
4 years 6 months ago

Not really considering he makes a tad more then 5 mill this year, Rogers is trying to dump salary as much as they can.

BlueJaysFTW
4 years 6 months ago

Ya it’s Rogers making this move not AA. Be quiet, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

gs01
4 years 6 months ago

And you do? Because your a close insider to the team?

Garafraxaguy
4 years 6 months ago

He is Paulo

4 years 6 months ago

it’s not rocket surgery; Rogers is the richest ownership group in MLB by a longshot and couldn’t give a poo about the $5MM cost of Juan Rivera. Meanwhile, AA is not the richest GM in MLB (figuratively speaking… he has some semblance of a budget, at least for the time being), and would rather move that $5MM if it’s going to be sitting on the bench.

4 years 6 months ago

I liked this simply because you used the phrase “couldn’t give a poo”

Jimmy Hoffman
4 years 6 months ago

What is rocket surgery?

Mick_In_Ithaca
4 years 6 months ago

Kinda like brain science.

4 years 6 months ago

You don’t need to be an insider to know these things. Any team owned by any corporation would like to trade Juan Rivera. No salary dump about it.

BlueJaysFTW
4 years 6 months ago

Do you honestly think that Rogers or any owner of a professional team is the puppet-master behind the General Manager? LMAO. You are way out to lunch if you think that. The whole reason they hire a GM is so they have someone (that is not them) to deal with the front office matters of the team. As if there is a Rogers executive whispering into the ear of Anthopolous directing his every move. HAHAHAHHAAA. Dumby

Ferrariman
4 years 6 months ago

actually dumby, you are wrong. Well…sort of. A GM answers to the team President. However, in many cases, the president is usually a share holder in the team or the majority owner who actually does play as a pseudo-GM but more so as a figurehead. For example, Nolan Ryan. I don’t know the situation in Toronto but this is in general.

BlueJaysFTW
4 years 6 months ago

Good job. Make a huge presumption about the Jays ownership situation without actually knowing anything about their ownership. Second, Rogers is a HUGE company that does not care one bit about the 5 MM that is owed to Rivera. Especially when they have publicly said that they the money will be there when needed to increase payroll well over 100 million. Shhhh plz.

PJaysW
4 years 6 months ago

Simmer down. Act as benignly Canadian as you can.

Ferrariman
4 years 6 months ago

you completely dodged the entire point of my entire post. Mine was that there actually is a person that a GM has to answer to, the team President. Your entire post did nothing about that. Good job. Shhhhh plz. fool

patrick_mccaw
4 years 6 months ago

Yes, and in the case of the Blue Jays that President is Paul Beeston, who has been largely hands-off to baseball operations since his return, and is very much 100% behind all AA does. Also Rogers has said that (to paraphrase) “the Blue Jays budget amounts to a rounding error in our revenues.” $5MM is even more of a drop in the bucket.

gs01
4 years 6 months ago

If Rogers was such a rich ownership why do the Blue Jays never have a high payroll, such as the likes of Boston and New York? Every year it’s excuses about not being able to compete with Boston and New York and saying that they can spend with those big teams but they never have.

4 years 6 months ago

You don’t become a multi-billion dollar company by just doling out money for the sake of spending. When the time is right, the money will be there, but if they know that they can’t compete then boosting payroll to $150MM is a really bad business model.

4 years 6 months ago

I think once the Jays field a playoff team, Rogers will pump the money in. The problem of not making the playoffs is so long has produced some dismal attendance numbers. The fans just need a taste of the playoffs to get big crowds going again and Roger’s for sure will start pumping up the payroll.

Total speculation but that’s what I hope will happen…

patrick_mccaw
4 years 6 months ago

The old team President, Paul Godfrey, and Rogers CEO, Ted Rogers, were very much of the skin-flint philosophy. They hired JP Ricciardi to try and make a contender on an A’s-like budget. After the return of Beeston and death of Rogers, the philosophy has changed to doing what’s neccessary to build a contender to provide highly rated content for Rogers’ sports network.

deere5800
4 years 6 months ago

Ted Rogers was completely committed to building a winner. In the final few years of his life the Jays payroll hovered around the $120 million mark I believe. He was the owner when the Jays signed Wells to his big deal and Rios to his extension, and also when they had that huge(ly awful) offseason and signed Burnett, Ryan and traded for Glaus. Rogers had no problem spending money for the Jays, they just spent it on the wrong people.

4 years 6 months ago

“actually dumby, you are wrong. Well…sort of”

When someone says this, what this usually means is, “I want to sound condescending, but I can not in full since there is actually some truth to what you say”

Which coincidentally sums up 90% of the trolls on these message boards.

grownice
4 years 6 months ago

He’s got more “like’s” = he knows more. duhhhh

*Jays_44*
4 years 6 months ago

Don’t know much about him, what is his value?

sports33
4 years 6 months ago

Box of baseballs?

m4r1n3r
4 years 6 months ago

Are you confusing Juan Rivera with someone who sucks? Not sure if you are aware but Juan Rivera doesn’t suck. He’s actually pretty good.

4 years 6 months ago

Pretty good would be pushing it. Decently average would be more of a proper response.

m4r1n3r
4 years 6 months ago

okokok…..pushing it a bit with pretty good. Just confused by the comments like the guy is a throwaway or something.

4 years 6 months ago

I mean he’s going to be a bench player on the bluejays…

Tom R
4 years 6 months ago

Rivera bails on every pitch. He’s a right handed hitter and his front leg always steps toward third base. Consequently, he can’t hit anything on the outside part of the plate. He is known to have vision problems. The only thing he has going for him is a strong, accurate arm, which he needs because he runs like a statue.

duddy_17
4 years 6 months ago

let me check ebay…

4 years 6 months ago

In related news, baseball teams prefer to trade bad players for good players.

jesse heiman
4 years 6 months ago

Watch the blue jays and rangers royally screw with the angels again by swapping Rivera for Young

rickjimbo
4 years 6 months ago

you crazy, but then again….

4 years 6 months ago

and then trading Young to the Angels for someone else.

Alex “Middle Man” Anthopoulos

We’re going full circle.

renegade24
4 years 6 months ago

What part of AA’s philosophy do you not understand? He clearly does not want aging veterans on this team. Also, Young’s contract and defense are awful.

gorlak357
4 years 6 months ago

What do you know of his philosophy? Or if he even has a philosophy. Maybe he deals with things on a case by case basis.

renegade24
4 years 6 months ago

Because he always talks about going after promising young players and avoided every ‘old’ DH/1B type on the market this off-season?

gorlak357
4 years 6 months ago

He then explains why. He can’t use old Dh’s because he needs flexibility with players positions and he is going young because he is rebuilding and needs those players to still be around when they can compete. Everything he has done has been logical so im willing to bet he is just very smart as opposed to having a philosphical guide.

MikeyBaseball
4 years 6 months ago

Then flip Young to the Angels for a couple of prospects!

renegade24
4 years 6 months ago

AA wheeling and dealing as always.

4 years 6 months ago

Well the whole purpose of the trade was not to get Rivera, it was to dump Wells’ huge contract. This is no surprise at all.

O971
4 years 6 months ago

Rivera for Vernon Wells and $86M?

duddy_17
4 years 6 months ago

I love this idea… he should make the call all serious like, and then when the Angles ask if he’s serious, yell “suckers” and hang up the phone.

BradyAndersonsSideburns
4 years 6 months ago

you would have to get Texas involved as a third team to send Napoli though…

gorlak357
4 years 6 months ago

The question becomes ” Who is the third basemen or right fielder AA is trying to acquire?”

4 years 6 months ago

I think it has to be Young. They may not be able to dump Rivera for him but I think they can put a good package together. He is exactly the kind of higher-average hitter they want so they can make all those solo-homers count for something. I think they could really use his leadership too, now that Wells is gone. I doubt they would seriously go after Podsednik to replace Davis, though, if they went through with this..

Starting Lineup:
CF R. Davis
SS Y. Escobar
3B M. YOUNG
RF J. Bautista
1B A. Lind
2B A. Hill
C JP. Arencibia
DH E. Encarnacion
LF T. Snider

4 years 6 months ago

simply awful. not sure where to begin, but i’ll give it a go.

1. SNIDER IS NOT BATTING 9TH AGAIN. Stop nuthugging Cito.
1b. God forbid, but if that were the 9 guys going out there everyday, there’s no way they stick Hill-Aaron Cibia-EE together in a row like that.
2. If there were only 1 year left on Young’s deal, then sure. But they just traded away Shaun Marcum for an impact bat prospect who WILL BE PLAYING 3RD BASE IN THE FUTURE (i.e. possibly at some point this season). Young has 3 years and $16MM per left on his contract and will be blocking Brett Lawrie. No. No no no no no. NO.
3. Minor nit-pick here, but I assume there is going to be some kind of platoon situation with Lind and EE that you’re completely disregarding with that lineup.
4. What leadership? He’s not that good; usually your “leaders” are your better players, who have the ability to, you know, lead. [edit to add] A personal opinion here, but intangibles such as “leadership” don’t make people better at baseball. Playing time and practice and hard work and so on are much more important. [/edit]
5. He (Young) is terrible on defence. With Lind playing 1B, we’ve got to rely on some really strong defence from 2b, 3b and SS. Which explains why E5 is no longer E5, since he couldn’t find first base from third to save his life. Michael Young isn’t much better, and Lind is too raw and inexperienced to be relied upon to trudge around getting balls out of the dirt. I’d way rather John McDonald play 3b everyday.

Note- I reserve the right to add things to this list as my anger subsides.

edit- I’m less angry now, and thus, can think clearly enough to add that Michael Young is 34 years old and regressing, which is the antithesis of AA’s plan to make this team young and sustainable for years to come.

JKGocha
4 years 6 months ago

I think Lawrie will make the team out of spring training. He will play 3B and bautista can go back to RF where we need him!

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

The kid is 20, why would they rush him like that?

4 years 6 months ago

says the guy with the travis snider avatar…

i see him as a mid-season call up at best, simply because he’s new to being a 3b.

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

Travis Snider is 23 now, so care to take another stab at that comment..

And Travis Snider was rushed to the majors, thats a known fact and how did that work out for him… but that was a different regime

AA has made no indication of rushing players along, we saw that last year with Drabek and Arencibia… So explain to me why you think all of a sudden Lawrie will be an exception?

4 years 6 months ago

comment was made in jest, but he was 20 when he was first called up, no?

But anyway, Lawrie just changed positions over the offseason and I’d hate to have him playing everyday throwing unfamiliar tosses across the infield to a really raw Adam Lind.

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

Yes but Snider came up as a 20 year old and really wasn’t handled well by the GM/Coach at the time..

I think they let Lawrie develop and work on his position change this year… I do think he’ll end up back at 2B when he makes the Jays though…

I think the Jays dump Rivera off somewhere for a prospect or something and sign Pods.. You have him and Davis platoon and you actually have a pretty good lead off batter (strict righty/lefty platoon)

Davis/Pods
Esco
Lind
Bautista
Snider
Encarnacion
Hill
Arencibia
Mastroianni.. I agree with giving him a shot, Id rather see him learn the ropes batting 9th, hopefully providing some good defense then rivera.

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

Thank you.

4 years 6 months ago

+1 for the “nuthugging cito” comment! lol!

JKGocha
4 years 6 months ago

The Way I like to see it:

CF R. Davis
SS Y. Escobar
LF T. Snider
RF J. Bautista
1B A. Lind
2B A. Hill
C JP. Arencibia
DH E. Encarnacion
3B T. Lawrie

Snider will have a big season, we have been waiting for this day!

RobbyG77
4 years 6 months ago

I think you mean Brett Lawrie and not T. Lawrie

4 years 6 months ago

If we’re gonna talk about lineup optimization then…

Never even considered Snider in the 3-hole, but I don’t hate it. I think I’ll decline, but it’s not bad at all.

The only reason I decline is with Davis leading off, I’d rather see a LHB in the 2 hole to help Davis steal more (assuming Davis stays up top… his OBP isn’t all that high for a traditional leadoff guy, so he’s really going to need to steal some bases to make that work), and a LHB sort of blocks the catcher’s view of first base and any potential 1b-2b basestealers.

That leaves either Snider or Lind to bat in the 2-hole, to which I prefer Lind, since there is still at least a little bit of uncertainty about Travis. Either works for me though, as the #2 batter will see a lot of fastballs to try to counteract the wheels of Davis at 1b. Problem is that I don’t really know where to go from here. Hill in the 3-hole?

I feel like AA moves Rivera for a LHB. That, or signs Scott Podsednik and moves Rivera for a scrub/prospect. I also don’t think Lawrie is on the MLB roster for at least a few months with Lind playing first base.

Chuck Norris
4 years 6 months ago

If your a “DH” , and your playing anywhere lower than the 6th spot , then something is wrong.

Guest
4 years 6 months ago

I’m with those who say this isn’t news at all. Anyone could have speculated as soon as the deal was made that the Jays would like to unload Rivera. Who wouldn’t?

SpecialFNK
4 years 6 months ago

career numbers for 2 different players.
player A- .280 AVG/ .329 OBP/ .475 SLG/ .804 OPS/
player B- .280 AVG/ .328 OBP/ .461 SLG/ .789 OPS/
similar eh?
player A is Vernon Wells and player B is Juan Rivera.
difference is River hasn’t been able to play much of a full season. the most games Rivera has played was 138 in 2009, then 134 in 2004.
I understand wanting to free up money, but couldn’t it maybe be worth while for the Jays to hold onto River and let him play? if healthy(maybe a big IF) then Rivera could put up some nice numbers. maybe he would be more valuable during the season to trade to a contender looking for a bat?
what can you get for him right now?
I know AA has been able to work magic, so maybe it would not be surprising to see him pull off something magical.

renegade24
4 years 6 months ago

“maybe he would be more valuable during the season to trade to a contender looking for a bat? what can you get for him right now?”
Care to repeat the article in question more?

SpecialFNK
4 years 6 months ago

not really sure what your asking.
if Rivera is healthy he can hit for power. teams during the season looking for offense could give the Jays a prospect.

right now the Jays could go with an OF of Rivera/Davis/Snider with Batista at 3rd. the Jays might be looking for a 3B for now, but it looks like Lawrie is the 3B of the future.

4 years 6 months ago

Don’t forget Wells’s great defense. His negative UZR is what earned him his contract!

SpecialFNK
4 years 6 months ago

and how long ago was that? plus last I read is that Wells was not the same defensively as he used to be. I don’t know any numbers, just from what I’ve seen other people say.

4 years 6 months ago

nice comparison!

it’s negligible (sp?) difference for huge, mega money savings.

if the worst case is that the jays keep rivera and he plays the year out at like 5.5M, i’m totally fine with that. he’s blocking no one right now, he’ll put up ok numbers, and he’s a huge savings.

i’m totally for getting draft pick(s) for him (idk, 1 or 3) or trading him at the deadline.

4 years 6 months ago

This just in, in an attempt to further destroy Reagins rep, AA has traded Juan Rivera for Moustakes, Hosmer, and Montgomery from the Royals.

4 years 6 months ago

As dumb (and repetitive) as that joke was, it made me laugh. I guess it’s just not possible to rip Reagins enough.

TartanElk
4 years 6 months ago

Memo from AA to MLB GMs:

Attention MLB GMs! Do you think the Angels as much of a joke as I do? Do you like rubbing it in their face. Then come on up to Toronto and visit Alex Anthopoulos’ Amazing Assortment of Angel Athletes! Help us complete our humiliation of the franchise by taking their player off of our hands! We’re so committed to giving you a deal we’ll take just about anything!

Once more, come on up to Alex Anthopoulos’ Amazing Assortment of Angel Athletes! Great deals to be had for all!

SPECIAL ONE WEEK DEAL: Incentivized package for all AL West teams!

Note: No Shoes, No Socks, No Angels, No Service.

Garafraxaguy
4 years 6 months ago

That is the most (for lack of a better term) “Retarded” thing I have ever read on this site!

TartanElk
4 years 6 months ago

Eh, it’s not my best.

I started off strong, and then I just hit a block, and dammit I wasn’t going to not post it.

Ferrariman
4 years 6 months ago

i’ve seen worse. Much worse in fact.

grant77
4 years 6 months ago

Rivera for Casey Blake?

duddy_17
4 years 6 months ago

sorry, wait wait wait… he should yell, “gotha again suckers,” and then hang up the phone

4 years 6 months ago

Does Kouzmanoff for Rivera make any sense for the A’s? I’m not very familiar with their team plans for the up coming season but at first glance it could make sense for both sides.

Janssen
4 years 6 months ago

Rescinded.

gorlak357
4 years 6 months ago

Defense for young pitchers, which AA must realize is his future currency.

renegade24
4 years 6 months ago

Billy Beane does love outfielders…

Janssen
4 years 6 months ago

The more I think about this idea, the more I’m feeling like it might actually be good. He’s a better defensive third baseman then Bautista, and the offensive stats are fairly close when comparing Kouzmanoff to Rivera. Kouz is also younger, a tad cheaper, and if he has a good year, could probably be flipped again.

4 years 6 months ago

Ahh…the typical fan trap of not looking at it from Team B’s perspective. The A’s have 90848 outfielders already and no backup 3B (in fact, they’ve been trying to upgrade there). Why would they do that?

Janssen
4 years 6 months ago

I certainly wasn’t arguing the merits from Oakland’s perspective, nor suggesting that it was a realistic trade. Just that I would take it if it was on the table. There doesn’t seem to be any reason for the As to move Kouzmanoff, unless they find a better option first.

4 years 6 months ago

Ya I love it for the Jays, but I was wondering if there was anyone that knows more about the A’s then I do that could tell me if it would make sense for the A’s.

4 years 6 months ago

Would not make sense – they have no 3B replacement so why would they trade away their MLB Starting 3B for an OF?

Derek Slimmon
4 years 6 months ago

Who knows what’s next… it’s AA. There really isn’t a 3B up for grabs is there? We know we’re not going after Young…

4 years 6 months ago

Though I don’t doubt that the fact that AA would probably like to move Rivera, I wonder if there is really anything behind this article then KR’s speculation.

Janssen
4 years 6 months ago

This is what is kind of silly about this post. Kenny Ken Ken is very often right about this stuff, but anyone who has been following the Jays should be expecting this. Of course they are looking to trade him. He was packaged with Napoli to make room for Wells. The Jays never really wanted him to begin with. They will use him for a year if a trade doesn’t come together, but he’s gone the second the find a good offer for him.

Notin J. Notin
4 years 6 months ago

Take Rivera out of Anaheim and he actually hit pretty well last year. .819 Road OPS vs. his .625 home OPS.

lefty177
4 years 6 months ago

why don’t they just tick off the Angels completely and trade him (& a prospect) for Michael Young?

vilifyingforce
4 years 6 months ago

You must’ve meant Rivera a prospect for Young and a truckload of cash right?

gorlak357
4 years 6 months ago

Rivera’s immediate replacement patterson so I can’t see him being dumped unless AA finds someone to replace him in RF or 3rd base. The jays have Davis and Escobar at the top of the order so Podsednic would not make much sense.

shockey12
4 years 6 months ago

Darin Mastroianni

grownice
4 years 6 months ago

darin mastrionni

gorlak357
4 years 6 months ago

how Confident are you that he will succeed full time? Do you think he is ready? If he doesn’t succeed what would be plan B?

grownice
4 years 6 months ago

Not that confident, but in season where the highest we’ll finish is 3rd , id rather see him struggle and get some experience then play a guy who’s leaving anyways.

Encarnacion's Parrot
4 years 6 months ago

He hasn’t even been invited to Spring Training, which is complete bullshit.

NorthOf49
4 years 6 months ago

Mastro is already on the 40-man roster, so he doesn’t need a separate invite, he’ll be there.

Encarnacion's Parrot
4 years 6 months ago

Ahh thanks fer clearing that up dude.

FriedCalamari
4 years 6 months ago

Darin Mastramowni