Michael Young Rumors: Thursday

Michael Young wants out of Texas and, despite the $48MM remaining on his contract, some of the Rangers' rivals are interested. The Phillies inquired on Young and though the Angels, Dodgers and Yankees appear to have little interest in the 34-year-old, other clubs could become involved. Here's the latest on Young, with the most recent updates up top:

  • Renck hears that the Rangers want more than they did six weeks ago, but the Rockies are not inclined to change their offer (Twitter link).
  • The Rockies thought they had a deal in place with the Rangers for Young about six weeks ago, writes Renck.  The Rockies would have given up a pair of solid prospects and were to take on about $20MM of Young's contract.  But then the Rangers missed out on free agent DH targets and at this time want more from the Rockies.
  • Rangers GM Jon Daniels told Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News that "nobody looks good right now" for a Young trade.  Daniels suggested that "if a deal is going to happen, it's probably going to happen" before Rangers position players report to Spring Training in nine days, though he does not consider February 19th a deadline.  He also told Grant the Rangers are not pursuing free agents to replace Young.
  • The Dodgers and Rangers had serious discussions about Young, but the sides didn't get close to a deal, according to Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports.  One source told the FOX writers the Dodgers wanted the Rangers to assume "as much as" $36MM of the $48MM owed to Young.
  • The Rangers and Rockies both know the deal they want and seem to be waiting for the other club to blink, according to ESPN.com's Buster Olney (on Twitter).
  • The Rangers don't expect to be able to move Young, according to Jeff Wilson of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram (Twitter link). Teams have inquired, but there's no apparent fit.
  • Troy Renck of the Denver Post has been told multiple times that the Rockies are out unless the Rangers approach them again (Twitter link).
  • Angels GM Tony Reagins told Bill Shaikin of the LA Times that he's "not engaged" with another AL West team in trade talks (Twitter link). It doesn't sound like Young should pack his bags for Anaheim.
  • We heard Tuesday that the Rockies were out on Young, but they may still be interested in him. The Rockies haven't heard they're out of the bidding, according to Jon Heyman of SI.com (on Twitter). The Rangers asked the Rockies for a "very good player" in exchange for Young and the sides are apart on money.


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196 Comments on "Michael Young Rumors: Thursday"


Tim
4 years 6 months ago

C’mon man. You are a lifetime Ranger. Finish your career there, cash your ginormous checks and fade into the sunset. Be a man.

4 years 6 months ago

Relax, I don’t think he is going anywhere… for now at least. The Rangers have until May to come a very long way down in what they expect to get for Young or his 10/5 rights kick in and he is not going anywhere unless they release him.

4 years 6 months ago

Those 10/5 rights kick in in May…so it will be interesting to see what happens between now and then. The Rangers are young in many ways, literally their roster is young, the GM is among the youngest, and the ownership group just got off “welfare.” We will know a lot more about this team and the GM in the next few months.

4 years 6 months ago

Im assuming he wants to be a ranger for life but hes being treated like trash. He is not a DH at this point in his life.

Guest
4 years 6 months ago

Yep, moving from 2nd, to SS, to 3rd, to DH, in the course of about 7 years would be pretty annoying…

4 years 6 months ago

Hard to be a man when you’re being bent over by your teams front office. MY is a good fit for the Rockies.

Dodgersarelife
4 years 6 months ago

Welll i was Young i would uhhhhhhhhhhhh…??? I dunnoo what to do. Do i stay in texas? O rdo i leave my wife???? WHAT DO I DO? Do i forgive the texas fans and the rangers for being buttholes. What do i do?WHAT DO I DO? I mean there is nutin to do. I probaly go sit on the toliet and try to make sense of this situation? I mean like what the hell man grow up child, grow up and put some big man pants on. Put them on and stop thinking of the past. Take them off and wiggle your junk and relish the moment in which you are a ranger. WIGGLE THAT JUNK FOOL! COME ON YOUNG WIGGLE IT ALL AROUND AND MAKE SURE U HAVE YOUR BIGBOY PANTS ON. And make some children so u got some boys to play catch with. WIGGLE YOUR JUNK FOOL

4 years 6 months ago

Josh Beckett for Michael Young?? Works for both teams. Pitching upgrade for Texas… Shortstop upgrade for Boston. Scutaro a nice piece off the bench at $6M per.

4 years 6 months ago

Texas would jump at that deal. But I wouldn’t count on it happening, at least for the next 100 million years.

johnsilver
4 years 6 months ago

I’d rather have Scuttaro sitting on the bench as a reserve for Lowrie and backing up SS/2B and playing his mediocre defense at 6m than Young doing the same.

Boston has no need for a lousy defensive SS and he SURE ain’t going to play 1B/3B/2B/DH for Boston.

4 years 6 months ago

Lousy defense at short………..he won the gold glove at short just a few years ago. They don’t normally give that to lousy defensive players

johnsilver
4 years 6 months ago

Whe managers get involved in voting it becomes a popularity contest.. Jeter this past season comes to mind and he has no range, as does Young proving that no longer has any range point moot.

Still.. You don’t swap mediocrity at 6m and 1 year plus a pitcher who still has potential for top of the rotation (31 YO) for a 34+ corner IF with declining defensive skills and has a bat that would play in only 2-3 stadiums in the game, with Boston (one of those stadiums, granted) having any of those positions (1B,3B,DH) covered by players better and a GG calibur top prospect 1 season away, with Jed Lowrie also on the team as it is that has power and plays mediocre defense and costing league minimum..

Epstein is not one of Minaya/Sabean mold that makes deals where he trades hard to find top of the rotation talent for someone else’s 48m surplus parts.

Van Kapeghian
4 years 6 months ago

so you’re saying there’s a chance

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

How is that a shortstop upgrade for Boston?

The fact that you even said that makes me question not only your baseball knowledge, but your sanity as well.

Victor Kipp
4 years 6 months ago

Uh…Michael Young can no longer play short stop bro. His range is horrible at 3rd. Beckett had 1 bad year and you wanna trade him for a corner infielder/DH straight up? Come on man…really?

s8n666
4 years 6 months ago

Seriously? Young is NOT an upgrade over either Scutaro or Lowrie. Young had an OPS+ of 92 outside of Arlington last year, on the wrong side of 30, and terrible defense. People are down on Beckett, but there is no such thing as too much pitching. 2 years ago, he was considered the ace of the Sox rotation. Give the man a chance!

4 years 6 months ago

They’re not getting a potential ace back for Young. Maybe three or four years ago, but not now. If they’re counting on getting a starting pitcher back, Joe Blanton’s about the level they’re looking at. Young won’t approve a deal to Philly now because he’s looking at a similar super-utility/new-position situation there, but if this thing keeps getting uglier, he may end up accepting any deal just to get out of Texas.

jwsox
4 years 6 months ago

if young could show he can play in right or left he would actually not be a bad piece for the phiilies to have for blanton straight up

Catztradamus
4 years 6 months ago

Philly would want to deal Ibanez as well, IMO, and even then, the payroll constraints would be tight.

vonhayesdays
4 years 6 months ago

young would be an upgrade at the plate but in the field scutaro has him beat even though his skills are declining faster than cisco now

NomarGarciaparra
4 years 6 months ago

i can’t even begin to say how badly that doesn’t work for the Red Sox. Even IF Young is an upgrade over Lowrie or Scutaro, taking on $48M over the next 3 years is just insane. For that money, they could’ve kept Martinez! And plus, they have Iglesias possibly coming up in 2012…where would Young go then? DH? He would be an expensive DH.

And Beckett had one bad year….don’t give up on his so quickly!

jammin502
4 years 6 months ago

Alfonso Soriano for Michael Young? Fonzy can take that LF / DH role in his return to Texas, and Young can play 2B this year and possibly move to 3B if Ramirez leaves after 2011. Both players are the same age, similar salary, and Soriano has one extra year on his contract.

Victor Kipp
4 years 6 months ago

That’s actually not that bad of an idea. I really think Texas would like to shed more of his contract, but hey, if they get lousy offers from everyone else and the Cubs offer Soriano back I could see that happening. A change of scenery might do each player good.

jammin502
4 years 6 months ago

Yeah, it kind of makes sense for both teams. The Cubs traded away their potential 2B of the future in Lee and have a lot of depth in the outfield waiting for a spot to play. With Soriano gone, Colvin would have a permanent spot and after 2011 Jackson would have a spot. For Texas they have a guy that would probably love to come back and wouldn’t have a problem DHing (I am not sure on Soriano’s stance for that). The Cubs would probably need to kick in cash to make up for that extra year, but freeing up that year should be enticing to the Cubs!

jwsox
4 years 6 months ago

agreed its actually a decent move for both teams, moving soriano to DH and back to texas in that hitters mecca is a smart move. Young to the NL where he can play 2nd and move to 3rd after aram leaves(youngs D is no where near as back as arams) its a smart move for both teams. I wonder if the money works though, like you said the cubs would probably have to kick some money for the extra year though…but its a good move for both teams…the cubs get a solid fielder(not great but not horrible) and a guy that hits for a good average to bat 2nd(castro leading off) and the rangers get a power right hander who can run a little and play left in a pinch

4 years 6 months ago

As a Cubs fan I like the deal. Not sure the Rangers would be getting a fair deal unless the Cubs picked up some money. They would also need to get Soriano to wave his no trade clause, which coould be done by cutting his playing time if he stays in Chicago. Personally I would continue to leave Young at 2nd once Aramis is gone for the simple fact Vitters has been groomed for third for a while now. I think Soriano would help Texas in their quest for a guy that can provide more pop since they lost out on Thome and Vlad is gone. Soriano would be a better lower half power guy that might hit 30 homers and strike out 130 times

Nick Novak
4 years 6 months ago

this doesn’t work for two reasons:
1- Soriano has a full no trade clause
2- the Rangers want to shed payroll, and Soriano is owed more money and has one more year left on his contract than Young. the cubs payroll is maxed and I really don’t think they could send any money with soriano

disgustedcubfan
4 years 6 months ago

Young, and cash to the Twins for pitching prospects.
Minnesota needs a shortstop and another right handed bat in the line up.

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

if they need a shortstop why would they trade for young?

disgustedcubfan
4 years 6 months ago

Because he’s a much better option than Casilla.

FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
4 years 6 months ago

its the equivalent of going from a D minus to a D.

CrisE
4 years 6 months ago

Dear heavens.

4 years 6 months ago

Young is still a solid player (even at short) and will definitely be an upgrade over Scutaro. Im a blue jay fan so Ive seen him enough. Anyone who thinks Scutaro is better than Young is out to lunch. Young would look very nice in that Boston lineup. People are undervaluing Young because he wants out. He’s only 34. Come on people. Texas will still prob get a nice return. 3 yr/48 vs 4/68. Beckett is a little younger but has back problems. So this is a win for both sides.

jwsox
4 years 6 months ago

i would think the bosox would be more willing to trade lackey than becket due to age, contract size(moving lackey even taking on young clears up a ton of money to throw at Agon) and lets be honest lackey isnt that good…yes he is a good pitcher im not taking anything away but looking at his number he is not an ace or anything close to it

thevoiceofbv
4 years 6 months ago

Why do they keep mentioning the Yankees? While I realize that they are one of the few teams that could handle his salary, where would we put him? He’d have even less of a chance to get playing time then in Texas…

Scott Littlefield
4 years 6 months ago

Yanks the yanks will take him and eat abou 9 million a yr and then trade him to say the white Sox for Jackson or the dodgers for one of there starting 6 pitchers. Young at 7-8 million looks pretty good

Chuck345
4 years 6 months ago

“Yanks the yanks”? Are you calling him Yanks or stuttering or is this just a strange typo/mishap?

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

his fingers have turrets

4 years 6 months ago

Those must be useful for defending his castle from sieges.

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

HA. you know I’ve been playing too much call of duty when….

Scott Littlefield
4 years 6 months ago

WTF do you think? Im half way awake trying to do about 58 things at once. It was suppose to say because the yanks

Chuck345
4 years 6 months ago

Sorry, sorry…I sometimes mistype ‘Yanks’ with ‘because’ too.

MB923
4 years 6 months ago

I sure as well hope the managers/coaches mistype Derek Jeter with Gold Glove

Chuck345
4 years 6 months ago

*supposed

Todd Smith
4 years 6 months ago

I kind of love how Young felt all disrespected hearing about all the trade rumors and how he felt the Rangers didn’t really want him – and now, after demanding a trade he gets to hear all the trade rumors about how every other team doesn’t really want him either.

4 years 6 months ago

Check out Michael Young’s stats. See those little GG’s beside the year’s stats. That stands for Gold Glove. At Short and Third. Ya, you’re right, he’s terrible defensively. Ok now I can just wait for you to compare this to Derek Jeter’s defensive ability. Gold gloves are related to hitting, which is stupid but still very solid defensively. I would guarantee Young can still play short and an upgrade over Scutaro. The only reason he has been moving positions is because Texas has brought in elite defenders at his positions. Boston has loads of pitching depth and can afford to part with a fragile Beckett. I love Beckett but the guy is breaking down.

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

please… just stop talking..

Encarnacion's Parrot
4 years 6 months ago

Look at Derek Jeter’s stats. Look at all those Gold Gloves..

4 years 6 months ago

Gold glove is a joke. Players get theirs for their hitting and allstar status instead of their range. Jeter won and there was 5 or 6 SS in the AL much better than him. Texeria won at first and Daric Barton had the best range in baseball at first. So don’t quote gold glove they are popular contest not true range.

Encarnacion's Parrot
4 years 6 months ago

Rafael Palmeiro won his GG for playing at 1B for 28 games. It’s a joke.

I’ve noticed that people are echoing me instantly. Pretty funny stuff.

mkorpal
4 years 6 months ago

Least we forget Palmeiro and his 28 game at 1st base Gold Glove. Yeah, its a worthless award.

bleedrockiepurple
4 years 6 months ago

Carlos Gonzalez won a Gold Glove is another example. I was happy to see him win it and all and the guy is a solid OF’er but there are numerous guys out there who had a better fielding year and this is coming from a Rox fan…..yeahhh Gold Glove is a joke period.

4 years 6 months ago

umm… I see one “GG’ and that was 3 years ago at shortstop, not third. If Young is such a great 3rd baseman why did the Rangers just spend $96M to get another one?

mkorpal
4 years 6 months ago

I wonder who the very good player was. Fowler? Stewart? Chacin?

bleedrockiepurple
4 years 6 months ago

My guess would be Fowler….he had been linked a few times. The Rox have said Chacin is untouchable right now and Stewart would not be a fit with Beltre @ 3B and i couldnt see him being a full time DH at the age of 25.

4 years 6 months ago

Oops, I thought he had a Gold glove at 3rd. my bad

CrisE
4 years 6 months ago

Oh he’s got a gold glove alright, just not at 3b and not lately. By the way, he also hit over .400** and is dating the head cheerleader**.

** in high school

4 years 6 months ago

I don’t think 25 games at DH in a 10 year career counts as a /DH anything.

1Tough9
4 years 6 months ago

Carlos Quentin for Michael Young. Texas gets there DH player that can potentially become the starting RF if Borbon gets injured / doesn’t produce. Chicago gets a #2 Hitter. Beckham is penciled in there but I’d rather have him hitting lower in the order. We all saw how he fell on his face in the 2 Hole last year. Chicago then “experiments” with De Aza in RF. At this point he is less risky than Morel at 3B. Fact of the matter there is if either of them fail Mark Tehan is getting an everyday position. De Aza is a better fit in the offense to begin with. He’s a speedy, bottom of the order (9th in this case) that can turn the lineup over to Pierre and essentially setting Young up for RBI situations.

Morel only being 23 allows Young to move on after his contract and Morel steps in. Why not develop him a little more.

disgustedcubfan
4 years 6 months ago

As a Sox fan, you have to hope Morel is ready before Young moves on.
Young still has 3 more years left on his deal, but he would be a perfect #2 hitter for the Sox.
Most of the Sox fans in my area think Brent Morel is the next coming of Brooks Robinson and Mike Schmidt all rolled into one. It’s nice to hear a little more guarded optimism.

1Tough9
4 years 6 months ago

Morel is 23 year old. If he develops correctly in the minors until Young’s contract is up He will step in to the majors as a 26 year old. 26!! That is still a kid on some levels. I love the term “Guarded Optimism” for describing how I feel about Morel right now. It’s the same take I have on majority of prospects.

rockfordone
4 years 6 months ago

Young to the Mets for Santanna and Beltran. Mets must move $.

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

ha!

They need to move money so they pick up a dead weight for 46 million?

good strategy

Guest
4 years 6 months ago

How much is Santana owed? Like 80 million?

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

Young for Bradley.

Chuck345
4 years 6 months ago

Cooper?

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

I meant Milton..

but cooper would work too, can he pitch?

Chuck345
4 years 6 months ago

He can act like he can.

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

Kinda like AJ Burnette??

Hayyyoooooo

ellisburks
4 years 6 months ago

Bradley Cooper is to acting as AJ Burnett is to _____________

Encarnacion's Parrot
4 years 6 months ago

Not getting black eyes.

ellisburks
4 years 6 months ago

Who is Milton Cooper? Sounds like an accountant.

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

Milton Bradley sir

ellisburks
4 years 6 months ago

I know. But now I can’t get the name Milton Cooper out of my head.

bleedDODGERblue
4 years 6 months ago

Bradley Cooper, he’s an actor. Hence the “He can act like he can.”

Chuck345
4 years 6 months ago

Michael Young for Jon Lester straight. Win-win for both teams easily.

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

Michael Young for Adrian Gonzalez plus cash.

Chuck345
4 years 6 months ago

I swear, Dave Bean on this thread is Young’s agent. Never seen such optimism about him.

HerbertAnchovy
4 years 6 months ago

Is Dave Bean the same person (or related to) that Tyler guy that was trolling on the Young posts a few days ago?

Guest
4 years 6 months ago

I have a question in general for anyone. If a team includes cash in a trade like the Rangers would be in a MY deal, is that spread out over the length of the contract and count against the team’s budget every year? Or would the cash be included as one lump sum at the time of the trade, w/ the player’s contract essentially coming off the team’s books for good?

Seems like it would make a big difference in the trade talks

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

I’m fairly certain its paid in a lump some at the time of the trade..

gunsnascar
4 years 6 months ago

Why is most fans of any perticular team trying to dump their garbage over paid players on the rangers for young.
News flash …………..Texas is not desperate……………despite youngs demands he is still under contract and will be playing in some capacity for them if nothing sugnificant comes along.
lets see whats proposed so far
milton bradley for young……………thats actually funny so ya get a pass
alfonso soriano for young…………..not that bad of a offer except for the extra year
beckett for young………………beckett is on the decline and was also overpaid
carlos quintin for young………….thats just rediculous and pass what your smoking around the class
scutaro for young……………..well atleast texas will save some money but dream on
dave bean please read watch and learn about baseball before you post here these guys can eat you alive for saying dumb stuff
with all of that said they will barbeque me no so go on with it

4 years 6 months ago

Here is the problem gunsascar. Once the press finds out a player wants to be traded his value goes way down. No GM is going to pay anything for him unless it is close to playoff time and they need that extra batter. Second his contract is a bad contract in that he is over paid so of course offers will be over paid players coming back. what most likely will happen is that MY will not get traded because Daniels over values what he will get in return.

jwsox
4 years 6 months ago

did someone really say carlos quentin for young? carlos who is only making like 5 mill this season and might even be non tendered next season for Michael who makes what 48 for the next few years? and why would the sox do this when they have 2nd and ss locked up and a very good young CHEAP prospect who is probably better defensively at 3rd the young in brent morell?

4 years 6 months ago

haha yea its crazy. the jays fans had to put up with that when halladay was on the block. Its just a fantasy that people want the best of both worlds

Beatofficer
4 years 6 months ago

Michael Young for Barry Bonds, I can see this being fair for both teams. Michael Young won’t have to do anything anymore except wave and smile and Barry Bonds gets to sit in a dugout and wave and smile. I like this for both teams.

FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
4 years 6 months ago

so Bond to Texas, Young to retirement?

MaineSox
4 years 6 months ago

Sounds perfect to me.

ZC17
4 years 6 months ago

Michael Young is making a huge mistake. Making the money he is making, he needs to shut his mouth and play. And if he thinks a trade is gonna help he’s again mistaken. If he gets traded then what? He isn’t gonna go to a samll market club the Rangers are gonna get back what they can for him and paying more than half of what he is owed isn’t in the cards (A-Rod). And if he goes to a big market club like the Yanks or BoSox he is gonna be in the same situatuion he is in in Texas a super utility who gets most of his starts at DH and he will never start over Posada or Big Papi.

dc21892
4 years 6 months ago

He’s shut his mouth and played his whole career. Cut him slack, think rationally and realize it was the Rangers that mistreated him, not Michael Young who mistreated the Rangers.

jwsox
4 years 6 months ago

no…every single time he has been told to switch postions because some one better was coming in or coming up he has said something about it…its the same old act with him. He was treated like the franchise player for a while untill arod came in then arod left and young if the franchise guy again now hamilton and kinsler and beltre are there and they are the franchise guys and people are starting to realize there was no reason to treat him like the “franchise” guy when he isnt he is a solid players not great not bad