Latest On Sabathia Opt-Out Decision

10:38pm: Barring something unforseen, Sabathia is expected to exercise the opt-out clause in his contract, a source with knowledge of the situation told Mark Feinsand of the New York Daily News.

9:35am: Not many players would ever think about walking away from $92MM, but C.C. Sabathia is one of the few who could consider it. Sabathia can opt out of his contract with the Yankees after the season, but repeated today that he does not intend to do so. The left-hander told reporters, including Marc Carig of the Star-Ledger, that he will not opt out and that he doesn't intend to address the issue again this season (Twitter link).

However, Sabathia later told Joel Sherman of the New York Post that "anything is possible in a contract," suggesting that he could opt out.

Sabathia, a Legacy Sports client, signed a player-friendly seven-year, $161MM deal after the 2008 season. The contract allows him to choose between $92MM from 2012-15 or another free agent contract. Given the shortage of top available starters Sabathia would have a lot of leverage if he opts out. Sabathia has thrived in the AL East, posting a 3.27 ERA (136 ERA+) in 467 2/3 innings and leading the league in wins in consecutive seasons.


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220 Comments on "Latest On Sabathia Opt-Out Decision"


Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

Waits for someone to make a joke about opting out of a meal.

Infield Fly
4 years 6 months ago

Nah. I got an uncontrollable urge to mention that he’s opting out of his option to opt out.

woadude
4 years 6 months ago

More like A-Rod 2.0, or did everyone already forget about 2007? I just hope he does the classy thing like A-Rod and announce his opt out during the World Series.

Matty
4 years 6 months ago

I hope he opts out and re-ups with the Yuckies for another 7 years so him and Arod can grow old and feable together.

Infield Fly
4 years 6 months ago

Feeble* spelling there, dude.

Matty
4 years 6 months ago

I was close. Knew it wasn’t right but didn’t care to check

Crackis4lovers
4 years 6 months ago

Yeah he was too busy thinking of a clever way to spell Yankees.

Matty
4 years 6 months ago

There is only one way way to spell Yankees. How long did it take you to come up with you ingenious handle there “crackis4lovers”.

Crackis4lovers
4 years 6 months ago

Only one way way you say say?

The_Silver_Stacker
4 years 6 months ago

Yuckies? What are you 6?

Chuck345
4 years 6 months ago

If I was 6, I would be offended by your response.

Matty
4 years 6 months ago

Would you prefer Skankees? Is that more big boy for you? The words I typically use for that team wouldn’t be allowed on here

4 years 6 months ago

will you be my valentine?

The_Silver_Stacker
4 years 6 months ago

Skankees? Grow up

captainjeter
4 years 6 months ago

you must be a Blow Sox fan. If he opts out, I’d rather see the Yankees go with Betances and Banulous instead. We don’t need another A Rod altratross contract choking us for years.

Crackis4lovers
4 years 6 months ago

Blow Sox? Choking down? Might want to step out of that denial there, bud.

Matty
4 years 6 months ago

Red Sox are just a crappier version of the Yankees (happy losers?)

wickedkevin
4 years 6 months ago

Forgot the comma after happy.

johnsilver
4 years 6 months ago

No fear of that. As long as Moe and Larry are running the team.. Contracts like that seem to be the norm. Cashman’s hands are tied now when he knows a bad sign is right in front of him.

woadude
4 years 6 months ago

You have like 6 contracts that will choke your team for years and years.

andrewyf
4 years 6 months ago

What could cause him to change his mind? Joe Girardi murdering his dog? The post-game spread turning into vegetable and dip? Him finally realizing he’s living in New Jersey?

Vmmercan
4 years 6 months ago

Yeah, one of the wealthiest sections of the country with a top two public (and private) school education with slightly more affordable real estate than living in the biggest Metropolitan area in the country and most of the world (located a few miles down the highway?

What an idiot.

andrewyf
4 years 6 months ago

You know how you know the worst is behind you? When you see a sign that says you are now leaving NEW JERSEYYYYY…..*leers at camera*

Yanksfan2010
4 years 6 months ago

Andrew NJ is one of the richest states in the country. It has the most expsenive zip code is the country. Why dont know more about something before you insult a place. Where do you live?

The_Silver_Stacker
4 years 6 months ago

NJ is a wealthy state, but yet Camden is like a third world country.

Crackis4lovers
4 years 6 months ago

Lol

Vmmercan
4 years 6 months ago

Camden is downright frightening. It is also the worst place in NJ.

The_Silver_Stacker
4 years 6 months ago

Especially since the cut a good chunk of the police force.

Since_77
4 years 6 months ago

Gov. Chris Cristy sends his regards!

Crackis4lovers
4 years 6 months ago

Tell me, if I wanted to purchase this zip code, how much would I need to send over on my private autogiro?

Yanksfan2010
4 years 6 months ago

Where are you from? Since you have like talking about where other people are from.

Crackis4lovers
4 years 6 months ago

I’m just trying to find out if I have enough money to purchase the most expensive zip code.

CaseyBlakeDeWitt
4 years 6 months ago

“you have like talking about where other people are from.”

I enjoyed this statement.

Infield Fly
4 years 6 months ago

Careful…equating wealth with overall “value” is misleading, and comes off sounding pretty elitist. Besides, these days, most of the comments I hear trashing New Jersey have more to do with the prevailing mentality than with the median income.

Yanksfan2010
4 years 6 months ago

Well where are you from? People keep talking trash about one place and not even say where they are from. NJ is a beautiful place to live. The people who trash it have never even been here.

Infield Fly
4 years 6 months ago

So much for sweeping statements. While not all, quite a few of the people I know who trash Jersey actually live there – for now – or grew up there and have no plans to return (yeah, I know the drill “we don’t want them back,” etc).

I’ve been in the US long enough to enjoy wherever I’ve lived while still maintaining a perspective that prevents me from needing to have a stake in the usual territorial pissing contests…which generally lead nowhere anyway.

Yanksfan2010
4 years 6 months ago

Once again you made a comment about one place and wont say where you live. You were the one who made negative comments about one place.

Infield Fly
4 years 6 months ago

If you read my posts better you would realize that I reported on the comments I frequently hear. I’ll leave you to it.

Yanksfan2010
4 years 6 months ago

Well why wont you say what state you live in? I have asked twice now and all you do is circle around the question. If I were to talk about another state I would at least say where I was from.

Crackis4lovers
4 years 6 months ago

Obsession.

4 years 6 months ago

lol I smell desperation

4 years 6 months ago

I’ve been all over NJ, from the beautiful Morris county to the craptacular Newark. NJ, imo, sucks balls.

woadude
4 years 6 months ago

Everything that has to do with New Jersey is sad and depressing, ever see Clerks 2? they are in New Jersey and all they talk about is how much it sucks being there, ever watch Jersey Shore? that is in enough on how much I would never even set foot there, thats your Youth of tomorrow keeping Jiffy Lube in business with how much crap is in their hair and how they talk is worse than hillbilly. I could go on but refuse to.

Yanksfan2010
4 years 6 months ago

Once again your some child who talks about one place but wont say where you are from. By the way most of the cast from Jersey Shore are not even from NJ. Also why are you talking about a post from over a day ago. Get a better life.

4 years 6 months ago

NJ is one of the richest states in the country with a few of the poorest cities in the country to boot. But hey NJ is all about balance right?

woadude
4 years 6 months ago

New Jersey is the sphincter of the Nation. Sure smells like it too.

not_brooks
4 years 6 months ago

No worries, vmmercan. 99% of people who talk about New Jersey like it’s the scum of the earth have never even visited.

I bet if you asked andrew what’s wrong with New Jersey, he would say “Well… It’s New Jersey…”

andrewyf
4 years 6 months ago

I dunno, I’ve visited Secaucus. ‘Mattress Capitol of the World’! It sure was.

Vmmercan
4 years 6 months ago

This statement aone is enough for Xub to rest his case. Have you ever been to Pittsburgh? or Loxahatchee, Florida? Or the South Bronx? Or Worcester, Mass? Or anything in Idaho?

I can name crappy sections of every state too. That’s how states work.

NordeastMPLSTwinsFan
4 years 6 months ago

I would like to see this. I say start naming!

not_brooks
4 years 6 months ago

Where do you live, andrew?

I bet there isn’t a single neighborhood in your state that you wouldn’t be happy to walk around in at midnight, right?

andrewyf
4 years 6 months ago

Actually, New Hampshire is pretty nice.

But (and I can’t believe I have to do this), people, it was a joke. Unless you think I’m saying Joe Girardi would actually kill someone’s dog?

Lighten. Up.

0bsessions
4 years 6 months ago

“Actually, New Hampshire is pretty nice.”

el.oh.el.

I feel safer walking around Dorchester drunk at 1 AM than I feel walking through a good chunk of Nashua. I actually grew up in NH and it’s basically Massachusetts’ skeevy little brother. I vividly remember my neighbors getting busted for heroin dealing when I lived up there.

Crackis4lovers
4 years 6 months ago

Not to nitpick, but NYC isn’t te largest metropolitan area in the world.

Crackis4lovers
4 years 6 months ago

I misread your post. I just hate American-itis.

Vmmercan
4 years 6 months ago

I don’t blame you.

Crackis4lovers
4 years 6 months ago

“America is the greatest country in the world!!1!one!”

“Oh, where else have you been?”

“I’ve never been outside of the US.”

I have had this conversation far too many times.

Infield Fly
4 years 6 months ago

So have I, and it’s astonishing how many folks conveniently forget that much of what makes this country great is all the people who came from elsewhere to make it so!

Crackis4lovers
4 years 6 months ago

Bravo dude.

johnsilver
4 years 6 months ago

I have.. pretty much every Asian country (ports of call) while in the Navy years ago and NONE held a candle to the US. This includes even free countries like Japan and that time Phillipines when it was a strategic base, as well as one nice place.. Australia.

PJaysW
4 years 6 months ago

ThAnks for that objective, unbiased account, accompanied by fantastic arguments to demonstrate why ‘merca is the greatest. WOOOOOOOO!

4 years 6 months ago

Pleeeeaasssee tell me your located or from Canada? Plllleeeeaaasssseeee!? The “Jays” in your handle are the bread crumbs I am following…

The_Silver_Stacker
4 years 6 months ago

So what is the world’s largest metropolitan area?

4 years 6 months ago

I believe it’s Tokyo. Looks like CC’s headed to Japan, guys.

not_brooks
4 years 6 months ago

If you’re talking about just the city limits, I think it’s Mumbai now.

CC’s going to India!

The_Silver_Stacker
4 years 6 months ago

Aha, That makes sense given the mass of humanity that is crammed there.

Crackis4lovers
4 years 6 months ago

Tokyo by a looooooong shot. NY is in the top 5 somewhere.

TreyIII
4 years 6 months ago

Google “superfund” and “new jersey” and “toxic”… see what pulls up.

“Already home to the largest number of Superfund toxic-waste sites in the nation, New Jersey expects to add 15 to 25 more properties to the National Priorities List in the next five years, state and federal authorities said.

And while adding to the list means the state is eligible for more federal cleanup money, it also means New Jersey has yet to see the end of its terrible legacy of contamination, one that in some instances dates back a century”

The_Silver_Stacker
4 years 6 months ago

I am glad I don’t live in Jersey anymore, I identified more as a New Yorker since I lived in Mahwah and it was so close to NY.

4 years 6 months ago

And Jersey Shore ruins all that in like a second.

Vmmercan
4 years 6 months ago

Jersey Shore, both the show and the location, is an excellent example of NJ in a nut shell.

The people from the cast are almost all completely from other places (RI, NY) and they frequent Seaside Heights (which to the outsider who hasn’t researched, is a representation of the typical Jersey shore.

The reality is much of the trash in both people and from a scenic standpoint which make up the shore are out of towners being trashy and trashing it. Seaside Heights is a cesspool and it is a huge touristy draw because of the boardwalk and close proximity. It is mostly made up of PA and NY trash (and jersey trash since everyone does have it) and it is one of the worst beaches on the shore.

Seaside PARK and places like Lavalette, those are beautiful beaches and barely anyone from outside the state knows about them. It’s all Belmar, Seaside Heights and Wildwood for out of towners and those are the ugliest, most disgusting and worst places of the shore. But they get all the press.

4 years 6 months ago

Well it’s a cold day in southern California (where CC is from) 51 degrees and overcast. Why would he ever want to leave New Jersey?

woadude
4 years 6 months ago

I think the New Jersey thing has a lot to do with it, rumors and tweets from his pals has him denying he is in New Jersey.

Crackis4lovers
4 years 6 months ago

Hey, CC is just too dang happy playing on the west coast.

4 years 6 months ago

He’s gonna get a nice new contract when he opts out.

Crackis4lovers
4 years 6 months ago

In all seriousness, what do reporters expect him to say? “Oh, yes, I’m really hoping to put up sone big numbers this season so I can take advantage of my iot out clause.” Why do reporters even ask him about this?

The_Silver_Stacker
4 years 6 months ago

Just like the other day some reporters asked him about the Yankees rotation, yeah like he is really going to criticize his own teammates to the media

4 years 6 months ago

Where’s a good ‘ole John Rocker candid/racist interview when you need one?

Crackis4lovers
4 years 6 months ago

I really like the term “player-friendly” contract. Aren’t they all?

iheartyourfart
4 years 6 months ago

evan longoria says hi.

Crackis4lovers
4 years 6 months ago

I think Longoria is doing fine.

not_brooks
4 years 6 months ago

Longoria’s still going to make ~$45MM through his 30-year-old season. And the two years of free agency that the Rays bought out were bought at $11MM and $11.5MM.

Team friendly? Of course. Not player friendly? Um… What?

Longoria will make his money. And just because he didn’t feel the need to get as much as he possibly could as soon as he possibly could doesn’t mean his contract was a bad idea for him.

Crackis4lovers
4 years 6 months ago

I think league minimum contracts are pretty player friendly.

FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
4 years 6 months ago

consider that he could probably make 100 M by his age 30 season on the open market

not_brooks
4 years 6 months ago

Considering the fact that Longoria wouldn’t have hit the open market until his age 29 season, I find that hard to believe.

Sure, he could have made a good deal more through arbitration had he gone year-to-year, but again, signing long term with the Rays was his choice. He liked the core and the direction of the team that he was drafted and developed by, and he made a decision that was going to be extremely beneficial to him and to that team.

Crackis4lovers
4 years 6 months ago

Oh facts…

4 years 6 months ago

It’s like “friendly-fire”… What the hell?

jwsox
4 years 6 months ago

this is what happens…CC posts another stellar season(possibly even better with the added weight loss) He decides you know what, the worst thing that could happen is i Re-up with the yankees for 92 mill for maybe more years(a little more security) So he opts out. And starts people bidding, cubs, whitesox, rangers, angles, bosox, Yankees(of course) Cards(if they cant resign albert why not add a stud pitcher) mets, and maybe braves. When all is said and done. CC signs with the philles(who again come out of no where) and have the best rotation this game will ever see(albeit lefty heavy) Halladay-CC-Lee-Oswalt-hamels ….haha

iheartyourfart
4 years 6 months ago

if he makes it through this contract without opting out, it would be a rarity that a $150mil+ contract might actually be worth it for both sides. if he opts out here and gets another 6 or 7 year deal, it will definitely be an overpay for the final seasons.

jayrub23
4 years 6 months ago

Going to end up just like arods opt out. He opts out yanks say we wont re-sign him and then give him 10 years and 300mil

Vmmercan
4 years 6 months ago

If CC opts out, which I’m not entirely convinced yet, I could see him getting a 1-2 year extension and 58 million added onto his deal at best.

That would essentially mean he resigns for 5-6 years and 126-151 million (an extra million to make him dollars more than Lee annually much like they did with Johan) with no opt out this time.

Personally I don’t think the Yankees will have to go past five years/126 million if CC opts out.

You can’t tell me the Red Sox are going to commit 58 million annually to three starters (two of which are in the middle to back of the rotation), essentially giving them a 70 million dollar rotation. Theo may have deep pockets, but I don’t see him allocating like that.

Which leaves the Angels (doubt it thanks to Vernon), Cardinals (if no Pujols), Nationals (no chance), Giants (won’t spend that money on a pitcher when Zito’s contract comes off) Dodgers (still don’t know their ownership situation), Cubs (if Pujols doesn’t leave because they would go all in on him if he does) and Mets (highly doubt he leaves NY to stay in NY on an inferior team).

Crackis4lovers
4 years 6 months ago

He will get well over 5 years somewhere if he opts out. The Yankees aren’t going to have exclusive negotiating rights with him.

Crackis4lovers
4 years 6 months ago

Wait, “no chance” for the team that gave Jason Werth a bazillion dollars? The Nationals cannot be counted out of any big free agent. They seem to like throwing their money around.

iheartyourfart
4 years 6 months ago

they are currently saving cash to give paul macanulty a $100mil deal when he hits .300

PushDown
4 years 6 months ago

Ahhh good ole Paul McAnulty.

4 years 6 months ago

If CC opts out, this could completely devastate the richest team in MLB – a year after losing out on the top free agent pitcher (Cliff Lee). Why would Cashman give such rich contracts and allow terms written into contracts like the one CC has allowing him the ability to opt out after 4 years? Considering how thin the free agent market is, if CC bolted, they’d throw a boatload of cash at Yu Darvish to try and get him over to America.

Crackis4lovers
4 years 6 months ago

Once, just once, I’d like to see someone actually throw a boatload of cash.

4 years 6 months ago

Something tells me they’re going to throw a boatload of cash at Yu Darvish anyway if he makes any kind of implication that he’s willing to come to the US.

4 years 6 months ago

Adam Wainright would be a Yankee if CC opts out.

SpecialFNK
4 years 6 months ago

how would Wainwright become a free agent? there is vesting option for 2012 at $10 MIL and $12 MIL for 2013. if the Cardinals can exercise that then why would they not?

not_brooks
4 years 6 months ago

Reporter: Hey, CC! Are you going to opt out?
CC: I’m not going to opt out, but anything is possible.

If CC puts up a typical CC season, he most certainly will opt out. As the best pitcher on the market, he’ll have all the leverage, and he’ll easily get a lot more than the $92MM remaining on his current deal with the Yankees.

Crackis4lovers
4 years 6 months ago

A) especially with the way this offseason has gone for the Yankees, why in God’s name would he want to endure the shitstorm that would ensue if he gave the honest answer everyone knows?

B) he might even be able to top the contract that he signed with the Yankees originally. He was a very good pitcher coming out of Cleveland. The guy’s a superstar now. And the “Natinals” exist now. Who knows what the Angels might do if he came back on the market.

Let’s be honest, unless he gets hurt or has a poor season it’s gonna get ugly for the Yankees.

Since_77
4 years 6 months ago

Good for CC! He’s already the highest paid pitcher in MLB and does a lot good work in his community. Why move your family for a few move $$.

Crackis4lovers
4 years 6 months ago

To be young and naive…

Victor Kipp
4 years 6 months ago

Ya right!!! Why wouldn’t he? He can get another 7 year contract at the end of the season especially if he pitches this year like he did the past 2. This is obviously C.C. being politically correct. Does anyone on here actually think he would come out and say “oh ya I’m definitely opting out. What I really want is another long term deal just for more money this time around”.

4 years 6 months ago

in my opinion the smart thing to do would be to opt out. especially if the market for starting pitchers is not very good. He could probably get an exact deal he did at 29 from the exact same team, the yanks would be desperate for him.

4 years 6 months ago

What is enough money?

0bsessions
4 years 6 months ago

All of it.

MaineSox
4 years 6 months ago

That’s like too much fun. Is there such a thing?

Leonard Washington
4 years 6 months ago

The Yankees would be in the most need of him if he opted out but with that said I just don’t see it. CC has said on the record twice he doesnt want to opt out, so unless over the course of the next season the team goes into some kind of rebuilding phase and fails to make upgrades i dont think he is gonna change his mind.

dethonthestairs
4 years 6 months ago

What makes you think he’s telling the whole truth?

4 years 6 months ago

Yeah, right….$150MM would make Jesus opt out of Golgatha.

Hoon
4 years 6 months ago

Remember when this post used to be about CC Sabathia and his option? Those were the good ol days..