Cashman: Never Made Offer To Chapman

WEDNESDAY, 9:45am: The Yankees "never made an offer" to Chapman, GM Brian Cashman tells ESPN's Buster Olney (Twitter link).

TUESDAY, 10:01pm: The Yankees really liked Aroldis Chapman. A Florida lawsuit against the left-hander's representatives claims that the Yankees made an “offer to Chapman valued at more than $54MM," according to Melissa Segura of SI.com (on Twitter, hat tip to River Ave. Blues).

Chapman, who accepted a six-year, $30.25MM deal from Cincinnati must have really liked the Reds to accept $24MM less from them. The 23-year-old Cuban struck out 19 of the 51 batters he faced in his cameo for the NL Central Champions last year. He posted a 3.57 ERA with 11.8 K/9 and 4.9 BB/9 in 95 2/3 innings at Triple-A before his callup.

The Yankees have a history of bidding on and signing top Cuban pitchers. They signed Orlando Hernandez in 1998 and pried Jose Contreras away from the Red Sox and others in 2003.


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135 Comments on "Cashman: Never Made Offer To Chapman"


inleylandwetrust
4 years 4 months ago

I have a hard time believing this. Why would he turn down that much money?

4 years 4 months ago

I don’t believe this.

masonb
4 years 4 months ago

That doesn’t make any sense. Why would his representatives purposely screw themselves out of several million in commission?

Yankee_Baal
4 years 4 months ago

If they are being sued, then maybe they didn’t screw themselves out of such commission. Its probable that the sue is about them not informing him about the best possible deal and instead only informing about Cincinnati, maybe because of another factor that favored them.

Ferrariman
4 years 4 months ago

no freaking way.

masonb
4 years 4 months ago

Doesn’t make since. Why would his reps screw themselves out of a million or so in commission?

zonis
4 years 4 months ago

Note to Yankees: Bidding ended a year ago. You can’t just bid 50 million now!

4 years 4 months ago

This is stupid & doesn’t make any sense, which means its probably true.

start_wearing_purple
start_wearing_purple
4 years 4 months ago

Is it April Fools already?

Stl_Great
4 years 4 months ago

Maybe it was like a 15 year deal, or something…

Stl_Great
4 years 4 months ago

Wow, Misclicked…

dgirton88
4 years 4 months ago

Haha no pitcher wants to go to the yanks anymore. He was smart like Cliff Lee.

LifeLongYankeeFan
4 years 4 months ago

Yeah turning down almost twice as much money is real smart and Cliff Lee isn’t every pitcher. We got Prior, Garcia and Colon what that’s right sarcasm.

Pete
4 years 4 months ago

Some pitchers care about winning more than money. The Yankees arent winning anything anytime soon.

GriffeyandSizemore
4 years 4 months ago

lol your funny.

dgirton88
4 years 4 months ago

Its true. Their pitching staff is awful outside of CC. Anytime you have AJ Burnett you will suck. Sox own their staff by a mile.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 4 months ago

So did 2009 count as “anytime”? I mean a staff with AJ did win the WS. A staff with AJ came w/in 6 wins of another one as well. You are sooooooooo smart.

dgirton88
4 years 4 months ago

I think you Yankee fans need to realize just how bad he was last season. Hes going downhill just like the yanks. Can you please admit how bad your starting 5 is outside CC. Its god awful. Heck the other new york team has a better starting 5 sadly.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 4 months ago

You can entertain whatever thoughts you want to sir. CC, Hughes and AJ are far from the worst threesome in baseball and we won 95 games last year with them AND we had a horrible season from both AJ and Vazquez. If you wish to think the Mets have a better rotation than the Yanks then feel free. You would be wrong but if Sara Pailin can have a platform to voice her opinion then why not you?

Slopeboy
4 years 4 months ago

‘Sox own their staff by a mile’… yeah, that’s what kept the Sox from finishing a mile behind in the final standings these recent years.

dgirton88
4 years 4 months ago

More yank fans living in the past. By the way who won the AL east last season? Ill give you a hint it wasn’t a New York or Boston team. Face the facts the yanks are awful this year with that starting 5. I hate the Sox just as much as the yanks but unless something drastic happens they have the AL east on lock.

Slopeboy
4 years 4 months ago

Dude, you’re letting your hatred cloud any logical thinking.Talk about living in the past. Burnett has one disastrous year and he becomes the world’s worst pitcher, which makes the entire staff and team terrible. Find a recipe book on how to cook crow, you’re going need it a few times over.

dgirton88
4 years 4 months ago

What are you smoking? The guy has been going downhill since the 07 season since then hes had 3 seasons with an era of 4.07, 4.04 and last season a 5.26. He did have 18 wins in 08 but thats the only season hes ever been over 13 wins. Lets face it this guy has never really been “that” great. Hes a 4th or 5th starter on most staffs. Hes not even a 5th starter on the Sox, Phillies, Giants, etc.

MB923
4 years 4 months ago

Says the A’s fan

LifeLongYankeeFan
4 years 4 months ago

Yeah Lee cares about winning more then money please the Yankees offer wasn’t the highest so that makes no sense and the Yankees still got a pretty good team playoff caliber team. Theres also a thing called the trade deadline Liriano may not be available now but if he stays healthy the first half the Yankees will try to trade for him if their starters aren’t cutting it or try and acquire another quality pitcher. They’re in better shape now then they were 5 years ago they went from having one of the worst farm systems to I think they’re in the top 5 now. Its not easy having a very good team with a great farm system as well.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 4 months ago

It wasn’t that. He heard raving reviews about the original Skyline’s chilli. Who could compete with that?

BobMexico
4 years 4 months ago

I live in Cincy, Skyline is terrible.

MB923
4 years 4 months ago

And Sabathia was stupid right?

4 years 4 months ago

This doesn’t make sense. I mean on the yankees’ part, after the whole contreras thing, would they really throw $50+ mil at an unproven guy again?

OrangeCards
4 years 4 months ago

haha, yes.

The_Silver_Stacker
4 years 4 months ago

Yankees did the same with throwing money at Kei Igawa

4 years 4 months ago

They made it rain on Igawa. He returned the favor by making it rain on the fans in the left field bleachers.

4 years 4 months ago

It means the Reds slipped the agents more money than what they would have gotten from the Yankee deal.

4 years 4 months ago

So the Yankees can now sue people for not taking their money? What a world we live in…

YanksFanSince78
4 years 4 months ago

No where in the article did it say the Yanks were suing anyone.

Jose Carlos Thompson is a close friend of Chapman’s, a cuban born player, a employee of the sports agents Hendricks Bros…….and oh……a 2B prospect that just signed with the Houston Astros.

My guess is that he somehow played a role in either hooking Chapman up with the Hendricks Brothers and was promised something by them if they got Chapman to sign with them or maybe was a go between the Yanks and Champman when the Yanks were schmoozing him when he visited NY back in 09. And remember, there was a lawsuite from Athletes Premier Intl, the original agents Chapman had, that claimed the Hendricks Sports Mngmnt stole Chapman from them and made promises while he was being repped by HSM. Thompson being CHapman’s close friend and an employee of Hendricks Sports Mngmnt obviously indicates he was instrumental in getting Chapman to switch agents.

“The lawsuit accuses Hendricks of tortious interference and unjust enrichment, claiming that Athletes Premier “invested substantial time and hundreds of thousands of dollars” on Chapman’s behalf to help him defect, establish residency in Andorra and begin negotiating with major league teams.

The suit claims that “Hendricks and its employees made material false and disparaging statements to Chapman concerning Athletes Premier and Mejia as well as provided improper enticements to Chapman in order to cause Chapman to terminate his contract with Athletes Premier and sign a contract with Hendricks.”

4 years 4 months ago

That lawsuit got settled though.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 4 months ago

I know. Just making the connection between Thompson (Chapman’s good friend) and fellow Cuban, who despite being a minor lge baseball player (recently signed by the Astros) was also a Hendricks Sprts Mngmt “employee” who is now suing Hendricks, with the Yankees offer of $54 mil obviously playing some role in the suit. My guess is, if you read between the lines, Thompson was instrumental in getting Chapman to leave Athletes Intl and moving to Hendricks. My guess is that he was employed to lure Chapman to Hendricks and didn’t get paid what he was promised or something like that.

4 years 4 months ago

They are going to sue the fans that angered lee’s wife.

kimofromkauai
4 years 4 months ago

There was an article, sorry link misplaced, that Chapmans representatives screwed up the tax consequences of his signing bonus. Something about the money should have been received prior to Jan 1 to avoid non resident taxes.

There was also another issue – I recall him changing representatives. So maybe the whole affair was “Amateur Hour”.

ZeroZeroZero
4 years 4 months ago

When Chapmans arm explodes and sprays bits of Cuban shrapnel all over Great American Ballpark, the Yankees will be happy they dont have all that money guaranteed to him.

4 years 4 months ago

Just b/c the Yankees deal is valued at 54 million doesn’t mean that that was the contract price.

Right now, Aroldis is due to receive at least 35 million. That’s not counting 3 arb years. If he is arb eligible after 2013, he receives at least 38 million, plus three arb years. I’m sure in this lawsuit the lawyers maxed out the arb payments, something like 5 milllion, 8 million, 11 million.

That kind of “fuzzy” math gets the Reds offer up to 62 million in “value”.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 4 months ago

I could careless if he didn’t sign but I don’t follow you. The arb years can’t be pre-determined or else it would be guaranteed years.

4 years 4 months ago

could care less implies you care more then minimum because you have room to not care…

4 years 4 months ago

In a lawsuit “value” is just going to be some pie in the sky, semi exaggerated #, especially when variables come into play. Since Chapman’s initial contract includes 3 arb years, the lawyers will include the anticipated figures for those 3 years in the lawsuit when determining the “value” of the offer.

grownice
4 years 4 months ago

couldnt careless 😉

LA Angels
4 years 4 months ago

Good… Now the Yankees won’t have a guy throwing some freaking heat… Helps AL league a lot… No one like the Yankees unless they live in new York or bandwagon fans… And there is a alot over here in California…

MB923
4 years 4 months ago

“No one like the Yankees unless they live in new York or bandwagon fans”

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That could be said about any franchise. No one likes the Royals unless they live in KC. No one likes the Padres unelss they live in SD. No one likes the Brewers unless they live in Milwaukee.

4 years 4 months ago

So what you are saying is that no one like(not likes) the yankees except new yorkers and people who cheer for them when they are in the postseason(so quite frequently).

In other words, no one likes them except for their fans….ummm ok?

4 years 4 months ago

So, what’s going to happen now? Are the Stankees gonna whine, the Reds deal becomes nullified that they have to turn Chapman over to them, and he’s awarded 54 million?! I can see it now. MLB atop a hog pen, throwing pacifiers down to them.

Bob9988
4 years 4 months ago

nope