NL West Rumors: Lincecum, Rockies, Dodgers

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haymaker9
3 years 9 months ago

RE: “The Rockies will not dabble financially in marginal players, explained GM Dan O’Dowd to Troy E. Renck of the Denver Post.  They do have interest in Paul Maholm, Jeff Francis, and J.C. Romero, though.”

–Last I checked, Paul Maholm, Jeff Francis and J.C. Romero are as marginal as it gets.  Of course, if they all decide to play for free, there will be no “financial dabbling”. 

3 years 9 months ago

HAHAHA! I was thinking the same thing.
There’s not one player from the bunch (Paul Maholm, Jeff Francis and J.C. Romero) that did anything in 2011 that would indicate to me they are going to have a good 2012.

3 years 9 months ago

HAHAHA! I was thinking the same thing.
There’s not one player from the bunch (Paul Maholm, Jeff Francis and J.C. Romero) that did anything in 2011 that would indicate to me they are going to have a good 2012.

Neil Guzman
3 years 9 months ago

You beat me to it, Haymaker…I was thinking pretty much that exact thing to myself…well, that and that they already do enough of that (dabble financially in marginal players) as it is…I, for the life of me and as hard as I try to, cannot understand this team’s logic…at all…they will miss the boat on Prado and settle for yet another middling year from some wily veteran in the twilight of his career…baffling…

Neil Guzman
3 years 9 months ago

You beat me to it, Haymaker…I was thinking pretty much that exact thing to myself…well, that and that they already do enough of that (dabble financially in marginal players) as it is…I, for the life of me and as hard as I try to, cannot understand this team’s logic…at all…they will miss the boat on Prado and settle for yet another middling year from some wily veteran in the twilight of his career…baffling…

3 years 9 months ago

Read the entire sentence. They said after Sizemore and Oswalt, they are not marginal free agents. If they do not land those 2 they will have no choice but to fill the hole with the next best.

haymaker9
3 years 9 months ago

I read it.  It’ a hell of a fall from Oswalt to Francis or Maholm.  They are NOT the next best.  I also focused on the words “WILL NOT” in regard to the financial dabbling on marginal players.  ‘Will not’ means ‘will not’, regardless of the other circumstances. O’Dowd has stated that he’s comfortable with in-house options if he can’t acquire what he wants, although that’s most likely just posturing.  Hopefully he sticks to his guns, as doing nothing would be better than throwing a couple million towards Francis.

3 years 9 months ago

Read the entire sentence. They said after Sizemore and Oswalt, they are not marginal free agents. If they do not land those 2 they will have no choice but to fill the hole with the next best.

Tony DiQuattro
3 years 9 months ago

I wouldn’t be surprised if Cain signed an extension at or a little below market value to stay in SF, but I really don’t think Lincecum will let just 2 free agent years in his prime be bought out and hit free agency at age 31. He won’t settle for anything less than Sabathia money.

Tony DiQuattro
3 years 9 months ago

I wouldn’t be surprised if Cain signed an extension at or a little below market value to stay in SF, but I really don’t think Lincecum will let just 2 free agent years in his prime be bought out and hit free agency at age 31. He won’t settle for anything less than Sabathia money.

3 years 9 months ago

good call.  And he should be asking for that money.  I think the bigger question will be years, Timmy will want 7+. Your thoughts?

Tony DiQuattro
3 years 9 months ago

I don’t know, at this point I would be surprised if he returns to the Giants because he sounds totally against an extension and wants to go to a team that actually scores runs as soon as possible.

3 years 9 months ago

He’s already on a team that wins, i think as long as he gets paid long-term he’ll stay.  He has no reason to leave SF if they give him the contract

Tony DiQuattro
3 years 9 months ago

Now I don’t know if you’re from around here, but there have been countless games where the Giants blew a lead and either lost or won after Lincecum was out of the game. He’s a competitor and cares about the team but I think personal wins mean something to him and that he believes that he could get more and bolster his status better elsewhere, that’s why he’s not open to shorter extensions.
If he hits free agency and a perennial contender matches SF’s offer, I wouldn’t be surprised if he left.

3 years 9 months ago

I am from around here, have season tickets.  Let’s not discount he’s won 2 CY Youngs, a World Series ring & .627% career winning percentage.  He even said he doesn’t want the pressure of a long-term deal (might be bull??).

Point being in this day & age of bullpens, he is still winning a lot of games, a lot of personal accolades, team accolades and is living his life.  There’s a reason not every pitcher on the Yankees has 20 wins, it just isnt guaranteed

raffish
3 years 9 months ago

O’Dowd is stuck in 2007, when the Rockies were good, Francis was good, Maholm was almost good, and Romero still wafted the rotting stink of good.  

raffish
3 years 9 months ago

O’Dowd is stuck in 2007, when the Rockies were good, Francis was good, Maholm was almost good, and Romero still wafted the rotting stink of good.  

UltimateYankeeFan
3 years 9 months ago

Lincecum would be foolish to let the Giants buy out just 2 years of FA.  That would mean he would not hit FA until the 2016 season.  In effect the Giants would be getting his “prime” years at a relative bargain.  Then he would be 32 years old in June the first year of FA and probably would NOT command anywhere the package he would command if he hit FA for the 2014 season going on 30 years old during that season (2014). 

UltimateYankeeFan
3 years 9 months ago

Lincecum would be foolish to let the Giants buy out just 2 years of FA.  That would mean he would not hit FA until the 2016 season.  In effect the Giants would be getting his “prime” years at a relative bargain.  Then he would be 32 years old in June the first year of FA and probably would NOT command anywhere the package he would command if he hit FA for the 2014 season going on 30 years old during that season (2014). 

orangenblackattack
3 years 9 months ago

$90 M over 5 years for Timmy and $65 M over 4 for Cain!

3 years 9 months ago

more like… AT LEAST $115 M over 5 years for timmy and $80 M over 4 for cain

orangenblackattack
3 years 9 months ago

$90 M over 5 years for Timmy and $65 M over 4 for Cain!

Joey E
3 years 9 months ago

i think it’s apparent Lincecum wants to be a free agent ASAP

3 years 9 months ago

looks like he wants the longest contract for a pitcher in history, which would translate to most money.  That’s a tough call for any pitcher to sign him to YEARS, no matter how good that pitcher is.

jubeininja69
3 years 9 months ago

lincy had said he prefer 1 year deals heading up to free agency. who knows how long his little body can take so i’ll think he’ll want to maximize his security as a free agent.

northsfbay
3 years 9 months ago

If Lincecum signs a big contract now, he has the security. If he waits to be a free agent and gets injuried, he gets nothing.

ultimate913
3 years 9 months ago

If Lincecum signs an extension now, he’ll get below what he would than becoming a FA. If he waits to be a free agent and keeps pitching the way he does, he’ll get everything.

It goes both ways.

3 years 9 months ago

How the heck could Lincecum justify anything close to that arbitration filing.  He’s coming off a salary of $13M.  No arbitrator will award him a raise of nearly 100% that makes him the highest paid pitcher (annual salary) in baseball

lefty177
3 years 9 months ago

Jon Heyman just said the first number that came to his mind

55saveslives
3 years 9 months ago

I think he wants a 2 yr deal saying “Get me some offense or I’m outta here!”  San Francisco is THE perfect place for Timmy with the weather and laid back lifestyle.  I don’t think he’d like NY or BOS or LA.

ieblue
3 years 9 months ago

Hmmmm weather and laid back lifestyle, sounds a lot like LA to me…

55saveslives
3 years 9 months ago

By weather, I mean, Timmy prefers cold weather.  He doesn’t do as well on hot days. And Northern Cal is WAY more chill than So. Cal. 

3 years 9 months ago

SF is LA without some of the gang violence, racism, and murder.

3 years 9 months ago

 wtf does this even mean?

3 years 9 months ago

I agree with you, I have always felt that Cain was the Giants’ true ace, I’d rather my dbacks face Lincecum than Cain.